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tetrapyloctomy posted:Uhhh, multiple fractured ribs in the elderly has a huge mortality rate. I mean, she also probably benefits from a level of healthcare unavailable to most other 85 year olds too. But this is tremendously lovely news nonetheless.
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Kimsemus posted:whew lad looks like POTUS gets 3 USC picks! Soon we can start saying "in a 6-3 decision" and also "abortion is illegal" and "being gay is illegal" and "being muslim is illegal" as well I suppose
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Caros posted:One of the complications for broken ribs is also pneumonia, which is, I'm told, really lovely for an old person. Also, keep in mind that the elderly often get pneumonia-complications because a) they feel they don't need to go to the doctor b) lack of resources c) neglect of people making them go to the doctor. RGB has a very devoted family and takes care of herself. She is going to be fine guys. Calm down.
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turnip kid posted:85 year olds tend to die pretty easy, yeah.
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Eh the court was already lost to us, the objective today remains the same as yesterday - take back the senate and pack the court. It is literally the only way. Even if RBG doesn't die from this she's still toast before 2020. Just accept the inevitability of it and focus.
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Tibalt posted:That's an interesting ahistorical take considering Obama gave a pretty big speech sheet after Sandy Hook, and didn't have a cooperative Congress to try and force the issue. Yeah, Obama only had a majority Senate & House for his first two years, and that was spent on the Recovery Act and the Affordable Care Act. He pushed for gun control repeatedly, but he knew he never had the support from congress to pass new laws. So his actions were mostly limited to speeches and executive actions to enforce existing laws.
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Kimsemus posted:If there was a time to pack the court, it would be now, where so many norms are being tested. Frankly, I support packing the USC since I don't think the USC in its current form functions very well, or is even doing its job well. There are so many circuit splits right now that even federal circuit courts are becoming unreliable sources of law.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Can’t do it without the Senate Correct. I'm not being partisan in the statement though -- this is the ideal time for either side to do it if they were willing.
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Grouchio posted:Give it two years; we can take it back then. Have you not noticed the increasing brazenness of Republican vote-rigging? It's only gonna be worse two years from now.
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Yeah it was already clear where things we're headed even before McConnel but no one wanted to admit it.
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Gripweed posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/1060534392634916864 We need to get a schedule going for people to watch her in shifts, because we need to protect RBG at all costs.
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Tibalt posted:While not a broken hip, any fall with a broken rib is going to prompt a doctor the broach the subject of palliative care. Lol no way RBG does that with Trump in office. You will pry that gavel from her cold dead fingers. Deified Data posted:Eh the court was already lost to us, the objective today remains the same as yesterday - take back the senate and pack the court. It is literally the only way. Even if RBG doesn't die from this she's still toast before 2020. Just accept the inevitability of it and focus. Stop this. It doesn't help anyone and is arguably harmful to the cause overall.
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Deified Data posted:Eh the court was already lost to us, the objective today remains the same as yesterday - take back the senate and pack the court. It is literally the only way. Even if RBG doesn't die from this she's still toast before 2020. Just accept the inevitability of it and focus. 5-4 and 6-3 are very meaningfully different in the near term for a lot of people, so gently caress this "accept that RBG is dead, it is inevitable, only in some hypothetical time in the 2020s can anything be fixed" poo poo
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corn in the bible posted:The new court is probably going to gently caress over anyone trying to prevent gerrymandering too This will likely be left up to state governors as a final check -- which is why I don't think people realize how important it was that dems won so many governor seats. PRetty overlooked news for how big of a deal it is.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: Why are you asking when we don't even know what the senate will look like in February yet?
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corn in the bible posted:The new court is probably going to gently caress over anyone trying to prevent gerrymandering too Our system is such a giant mess
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friendbot2000 posted:Check out the documentary about her called "The Notorious RGB". It goes into her workout schedule. The woman is a machine and I love her. Ruth Gader Binsburg
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: Would probably require the economy to collapse and a clean sweep of the 7 or so vulnerable seats.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: Depends on the popularity of Trump before the election, and what comes of the Mueller Probe. IMO democrats ran some VERY strong candidates and would have taken the Senate in THIS cycle had it not been for the Kavanaugh clusterfuck.
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friendbot2000 posted:Lol no way RBG does that with Trump in office. You will pry that gavel from her cold dead fingers. Buttery mails though
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corn in the bible posted:The new court is probably going to gently caress over anyone trying to prevent gerrymandering too Dude, this court denied hearing the case regarding just this a few weeks ago. Chill with the doom and gloom. You are not helping.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Would probably require the economy to collapse and a clean sweep of the 7 or so vulnerable seats. Reasonably good for the first part, then
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FlamingLiberal posted:Oh for sure. If they can put that into precedent it’s going to be nearly impossible to get it removed unless you have judges willing to fix it later on  Definitely Roe v Wade's gone though
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: Better than this year, but not by a lot.
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Calaveron posted:Yeah 75+ year old people are basically horses when it comes to injuries My grandmother was that age and had a massive stroke. First day doctors told us she may never wake up from a coma, and they showed us a CT scan where it looked like some severe damage to areas of the brain. Two days later my grandmother was awake and talking as usual, and the doctors told us flat out that "yeah that brain damage, we don't actually know what happened but it is gone, she is going to be fine  "She lived for 9 years after that. To this day I am convinced my grandmother had a mutant healing factor. God rest her soul, she was a tough old lady  Old people are remarkably resilient to injury sometimes.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: The map looks pretty favourable for Democrats.  If I understand correctly if the Democrats take Arizona now then they only need +3 Senators in 2020 to tie the Senate
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Failed Imagineer posted:Ruth Gader Binsburg Ah right, got the name wrong. It was inspired from the meme "The Notorious RGB". Got the two confused. It is called "RGB" Check it
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: That 5th seat is likely GA, IA, or KY So, not great. Edit: if Simena pulls out AZ and Nelson pulls out FL, it becomes a lot easier. ME and AZ would do it, for example. Tibalt fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Side discussion: TBD. There's a singularity coming that will change all the context of everything.
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corn in the bible posted:Soon we can start saying "in a 6-3 decision" and also "abortion is illegal" and "being gay is illegal" and "being muslim is illegal" as well I suppose One fun thing I'm expecting is the return of obscenity laws. A lot of states still have them on the books, but former Supreme Court decisions have made them somewhat unenforceable. You might think, nah, even Republicans jack off, they aren't going to ban porn. But if you look at the actual history of obscenity laws, banning porn was only one of the goals. The other major one was to ban the dissemination of information about abortion. Once Roe v Wade gets overturned, we are absolutely going to be back to distributing pamphlets about how to stimulate an abortion at home with OTC drugs or whatever. So yeah, the next step will be bringing back obscenity laws to ban that, and a whole bunch of extra stuff is going to get made illegal along with it. Depending on where you live, of course.
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HappyHippo posted:If she gets out of the hospital, RGB needs to be in one of these for the rest of her life Better idea: let's secure these for all of the conservative Justices, but seal the ends.
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Tibalt posted:I have a post about the 2020 Senate. Short story, Democrats will need to flip at least 5 seats. That depends on AZ. If Sinema pulls out the win then it's only four seats. This time out we had to defend a bunch of red-state Senators, after a goddamn Supreme Court fight. Next time, they have to defend a bunch of blue-state and border state Senators. Gardner, Tillis, Collins...I think all of them are gone with the right candidates.
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Tibalt posted:I have a post about the 2020 Senate. Short story, Democrats will need to flip at least 5 seats. As a GA native, I can tell you that GA flipping is off the table for the Senate.
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