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Yeah, considering how a major plot element of wc3 was that racism was bad and each faction had good and bad eggs(excepting the undead) and that WoW dilutes each race onto a single stereotype I think that won't turn out great.
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The example they gave was changing the layout of the Stratholme level to reflect the WoW version of the are, although there was a brief mention of Sylvanas' character as well.
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Nov 7, 2018 13:06
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Catering to WoWkids, that terrible generation of grinders and pizza roll microwavers who don't understand the greatness of Wc3!!
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Nov 7, 2018 16:20
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I remember thinking Warcraft III would have made a great foundation for an MMORPG in the future based on Warcraft. Then Blizzard announced World of Warcraft for real. Be careful what you wish for is what i'm trying to say.
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Nov 7, 2018 16:31
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They should rename Warcraft III to just "Warcraft" because they're never gonna re-release Warcraft 1 or 2.
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Nov 7, 2018 17:12
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McSlaughter posted:Catering to WoWkids, that terrible generation of grinders and pizza roll microwavers who don't understand the greatness of Wc3!! I microwaved a lot of pizza rolls when I played WC3 in college back in 2001 I'll have you know.
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Nov 7, 2018 17:57
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Mercury Crusader posted:They should rename Warcraft III to just "Warcraft" because they're never gonna re-release Warcraft 1 or 2. It would actually own bones if Warcraft 1 and 2 were remade in Reforged too.
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Nov 7, 2018 18:09
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WC2 had such good music and narration, you could tell you were in for some good poo poo even before you got Feudal Guy or Orc WWE Announcer yelling about orgrim doomhammers and toll barrads.
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Nov 7, 2018 18:21
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Pretty fuckin weird that the Orcish Horde had like two orc units (grunt and peon?) tho.
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Nov 7, 2018 18:22
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Weren't death knights undead orcs?
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Azran posted:Weren't death knights undead orcs? Orc warlocks souls stuffed into the bodies of human knights iirc.
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Azran posted:Weren't death knights undead orcs? I think I remember the manual said they were resurrected humans but who knows if that still counts
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Nov 7, 2018 18:56
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The dragons were also ridden/trained/enslaved by orcs. It just didn't show up on the unit sprite.
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Nov 7, 2018 19:08
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Who’s up for reviving the Towa clan and tactics? I fear that I may have grown too old to do such things
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Nov 7, 2018 19:50
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:I think I remember the manual said they were resurrected humans but who knows if that still counts The bodies were Azeroth knights stuffed with the souls of the Shadow Council.
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Kith posted:It would actually own bones if Warcraft 1 and 2 were remade in Reforged too. I'd actually be cool with that, provided they keep these things in it: General Battuta posted:WC2 had such good music and narration, you could tell you were in for some good poo poo even before you got Feudal Guy or Orc WWE Announcer yelling about orgrim doomhammers and toll barrads.
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Bill Roper is the hero we deserve.
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I feel like redesigning map geography, adding things like Meathook, extra little touches to the map are what they're talking about with any changes. They're not gonna do anything that would require them to re-record new voiced lines, I would imagine, so don't expect any sweeping story changes. This is still the Warcraft 3 story they're telling. Maybe Sylvanas' special-banshee will show up in more than half a mission, and that's what they meant by the reference to her? Maybe she'll be stronger in that half a mission she appears for? Who knows? I, for one, am eager to find out.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:02
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Mercury Crusader posted:They should rename Warcraft III to just "Warcraft" because they're never gonna re-release Warcraft 1 or 2. Warcraft 3 assumes you already know and have played the previous games though.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:09
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Eh, not really. The first two games whole involvement is: there was a war. The orcs lost. Which the game communicates fine. Most of the prior backstory of import is the camps the orcs start off in which isnt explained at all in any of the games.
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That actually makes me wonder if they're going to include a PDF of the manual or whatever since that's where basically all the lore for the races was.
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Blizzard have said existing custom maps will run in Reforged. Pretty sure Warcraft 1 & 2 have been remade as custom campaigns for Warcraft 3. So there we go?
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Mercury Crusader posted:They should rename Warcraft III to just "Warcraft" because they're never gonna re-release Warcraft 1 or 2. They loving love that part of the story which is why it keeps being a part of WoW expacs and was the basis for the movie.
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This looks way better than I would have thought. The character models are really, really good. I don't think the animations are all that weird, but some of the effects are strange. It looks really weird to see arrows fly into character models and then immediately disappear, for example. I'm sure some of it will be cleaned up before release, but some of it they probably can't do much about, given they can't change too much of the base game. Oh well.
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I know the answer is probably no, but I wonder if they can/will integrate the some of the deep mind collab stuff they did for SC2. It's mainly just a matter of defining a protobuf spec and shipping the info over along with some hooks to accept actions over the socket. I'm working with it for research now but I have a personal bias towards Warcraft and would prefer to use it. This is a dumb thing to care about.
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:Blizzard have said existing custom maps will run in Reforged. Pretty sure Warcraft 1 & 2 have been remade as custom campaigns for Warcraft 3. So there we go? Custom maps will run, but anything that uses custom assets, like models and textures, or custom UI skins, will likely be unable to use them in Reforged.
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Kith posted:It would actually own bones if Warcraft 1 and 2 were remade in Reforged too. i want wc2 with a user-friendly ui so bad
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FoolyCharged posted:Eh, not really. The first two games whole involvement is: there was a war. The orcs lost. Which the game communicates fine. They won the first one! Prav posted:i want wc2 with a user-friendly ui so bad It had like six buttons to worry about, what would you like to see changed?
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Beyond the Dark Portal ends up being important for quite a bit of WoW stuff too.
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THE BAR posted:It had like six buttons to worry about, what would you like to see changed? free zoom, unlimited selection, smart-casting, multi-building selection, builder queueing, build queue management in general, etc etc.
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BlazetheInferno posted:I feel like redesigning map geography, adding things like Meathook, extra little touches to the map are what they're talking about with any changes. They’ve stated that they will redo the voiceovers too
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Chopstix posted:They’ve stated that they will redo the voiceovers too Oh dear.
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Chopstix posted:Who’s up for reviving the Towa clan and tactics? I fear that I may have grown too old to do such things the core clan towa/highperch crew still games together regularly. not much war3 lately, though we did get a couple of solid games in during the early summer renewal of interest. we’re ready to go as soon as that beta drops
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Chopstix posted:They’ve stated that they will redo the voiceovers too Well its not quite that bad, they are bringing in the wow voice actors so that they are recognizable for people that never played WC3, but will have an option in the menus to choose between the old voices and the new ones, similarly they will have options for the old graphics and the newer ones.
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A pretty basic change would be to make Sylvanas into a Dark Ranger rather than a Banshee after Arthas rezzes here. It's a weird disjoint between the RoC and TFT campaigns where she like, grows legs.
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Jables88 posted:A pretty basic change would be to make Sylvanas into a Dark Ranger rather than a Banshee after Arthas rezzes here. It's a weird disjoint between the RoC and TFT campaigns where she like, grows legs. She had to
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Jables88 posted:A pretty basic change would be to make Sylvanas into a Dark Ranger rather than a Banshee after Arthas rezzes here. It's a weird disjoint between the RoC and TFT campaigns where she like, grows legs. The original canon is that she found her old body and possessed it after RoC.
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Which is a load of dung. I played the campaign! She didn't get that skill!
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FoolyCharged posted:Which is a load of dung. Segregation of Gameplay and Story, my friend. If she had the Possession ability in-game in her Banshee form, you would lose her after a single use, and she would be gone forever. Naw, if she's gonna possess anything or anybody, it's gonna be her own drat body because no other body is deserving of her glorious wonderful spirit. Okay, I'm just gonna go sit in the shame corner now after typing that.
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