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My 9900k went from nov 5 to nov 12, now they say there is no fixed date. I work for a distributor so I'm paying $50 off retail but I can't wait much longer.
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Ordered mine from Amazon on 10/08 and still waiting for any kind of update 
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Nov 7, 2018 18:15
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General Probe posted:Ordered mine from Amazon on 10/08 and still waiting for any kind of update I pre-ordered as soon as Amazon pushed a notice to my phone that they were available, and I was able to set it to notify thanks to a link Hold the Ashes posted in this thread of an entry that wasn't easily searchable. I figure that put me pretty close to the beginning of the line. If I was a smart man, I'd turn around and resell it on eBay.
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Nov 7, 2018 18:24
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Buildzoid did a video on the Z390 Aorus Xtreme and it seems to actually live up to it's "Godlike" price. The VRM is so efficiently that it was demonstrated running for 24 hours straight with a 9900k at 5.2GHz, running prime95 and with no heatsink or cooling on the VRM. It also has everything but the kitchen sink.
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Nov 7, 2018 19:16
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General Probe posted:Ordered mine from Amazon on 10/08 and still waiting for any kind of update I'm starting to think my 10/10 Amazon order will never be seen. I would cancel and order somewhere else but I've got like $150 in amazon bux that would be nice to use on this.
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Nov 7, 2018 19:22
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I am trying to decide between buying the Asrock Z390 Extreme 4, Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi or MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC (god drat terrible name). The latter two have WIFI while the Extreme 4 does not. I feel that Gigabyte Aorus Pro Wifi has the best feature set but I am concerned by the bios issues. Is the board a big improvement over the Z370?
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Nov 7, 2018 19:42
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Do you move your computer enough that wifi matters? I use mine wired and I've never even considered going wireless with it. As far as I can tell the only real difference between 390s and 370s is non updated 9 series support, if you're keeping the same CPU I'd get a 370 before the prices go up.
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Nov 7, 2018 19:47
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I am going to be getting a 9700k real soon. I could use the i3-8100 I am currently using to flash a z370 bios. I could sacrifice wifi if it means I am going to be getting a better quality board. I am moving real soon and Id imagine my computer will sit next to the router.
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Nov 7, 2018 19:54
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Speaking of Haswells, I've got an issue thats cropped up myself. So I've removed the cooler to replace the thermal paste, and I think I might just have found what was causing me the problem.   The thermal compound was absolutely rock solid, and aside from the traces on the right of the CPU, the CPU lid was absolutely spotless. In any case, I cleaned both and applied some new compound and reinstalled. Result so far; I've been running it at the same reduced overclock as before (3.8Ghz), and before when running the Aida64 stress test it would hit 95-100 degrees in about a minute and begin throttling. With the new compound I left it running the stress test for 25 minutes and temperatures stayed between 62-68 degrees the whole time. Before when running games such as Forza Horizon 4 temperatures would stay in the high 70s with the odd spike to 85 degrees. With the new compound it stays around the mid 40s. Idle temperatures have gone down from 45-52 degrees to 24-29 degrees. So overall it looks like the thermal compound was indeed the issue and luckily I don't need to replace the cooler. I'll run it for a couple of days like this and then slowly start bringing the overclock back to its original higher level. Lord Ludikrous fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Nov 7, 2018 |
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Nov 7, 2018 20:44
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Wow. I've seen thermal paste dry out and lose a bit of efficiency before, but never dry out so badly that it actually separates away from the CPU itself, which is what looks like happened here. Also might want to ensure that you've got the sink installed tightly enough--as long as you're not using giant screwdrivers, it's hard to get so much torque on those things that you'd actually break something these days.
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Nov 7, 2018 20:51
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Is TSMC's 7nm process roughly equivalent to Intel's 10nm? I remember reading that the process numbers don't really reflect reality anymore.
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Nov 7, 2018 21:41
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BurritoJustice posted:Buildzoid did a video on the Z390 Aorus Xtreme and it seems to actually live up to it's "Godlike" price. The VRM is so efficiently that it was demonstrated running for 24 hours straight with a 9900k at 5.2GHz, running prime95 and with no heatsink or cooling on the VRM. As *should* a board that costs $550.
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Nov 7, 2018 22:15
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il serpente cosmico posted:Is TSMC's 7nm process roughly equivalent to Intel's 10nm? I remember reading that the process numbers don't really reflect reality anymore. Roughly yeah. There are a bunch of different ways to measure it, but in most measures they are comparable. TSMC might be a little better in transistors per dollar, and Intel might be a little better in overall transistor speed. Obviously you can ignore GF below. 
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Nov 7, 2018 22:24
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BIG HEADLINE posted:As *should* a board that costs $550. Hey its slightly cheaper than my 8700K + MSI Z370M mobo + 16GB DDR43000, what a steal
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Nov 8, 2018 04:02
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Perplx posted:My 9900k went from nov 5 to nov 12, now they say there is no fixed date. I work for a distributor so I'm paying $50 off retail but I can't wait much longer. My order on Amazon just went to December 7  This really is getting ridiculous.
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Nov 8, 2018 05:17
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Kestral posted:My order on Amazon just went to December 7 At least you have a date because I don't
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Nov 8, 2018 06:36
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Provantage gave me a revised date of 11/15, but I somehow doubt that. Their original date was 12/6.
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Nov 8, 2018 06:40
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Kestral posted:My order on Amazon just went to December 7 This is quickly turning into one of those exceptions in tech purchasing where waiting for Zen2's supposed 25% IPC increases might actually be not just a good idea, but how it will work out anyways.
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Nov 8, 2018 07:47
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Ok, I have the i9 and Jesus Christ the packaging is ridiculous. On top of that, the dice package comes in a black dice bag thing (like a power supply).
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Nov 8, 2018 13:33
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Provantage gave me a revised date of 11/15, but I somehow doubt that. Their original date was 12/6. My date changed from 11/15 to 12/6 so who knows.
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Nov 8, 2018 14:42
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mobby_6kl posted:Is ARM on servers the new Linux on desktop thing I keep hearing every year? Hah, apparently I had set a reminder to myself for one year after this post. Linux on the desktop: Well, Linux Apps on Chromebooks rolled out as official/stable a little under 2 months ago. Chromebooks were already a fairly popular Linux-based system but you can now actually run things like GIMP and Android Studio on a Chromebook in an official way. ARM on servers: still mostly a nope I think. Qualcomm walked away from it. Should I check in next year?
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Nov 8, 2018 16:08
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Rastor posted:
Probably. I think ARM on the Desktop is coming soon(tm). The eternal rumor is that the progress Apple is making on their A00x chips will translate into real laptops at some point in the near future. Problem with the server environment is that you have plenty of power and cooling to work with. The progress that has been made on ARM is on small & efficient where as Intel knows how to blow some power on computing. I would expect ARMs to continue to grow in the dedication 'application' space (AI, storage, networking, etc). If I'm building a node to run a bunch of custom silicon for Tensorflow why not slap a decent ARM module down there and just run the loader OS on it. I'm pretty sure this is actually how the Google TPUs work. I mean, how many ARM processors are there already in a normal rack mount server? I'm guessing half a dozen between management, security, etc. If not way more.
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Nov 8, 2018 16:20
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I was able to buy a 9900k yesterday and just got the shipping notice now, I just refreshed canadacomputers.com periodically yesterday and 2 came into stock. I think they came from in store stock, I could only ship it to my billing address. I did it just in time, they raised the price by $20 today.
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Nov 8, 2018 16:54
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FunOne posted:Probably. I think ARM on the Desktop is coming soon(tm). The eternal rumor is that the progress Apple is making on their A00x chips will translate into real laptops at some point in the near future. Anand Shimpi (Anandtech founder, now works at Apple) may have dropped some hints in the recent article on A12X: quote:Mobile device comparisons aside, the laptop and desktop are more or less the ultimate target. "We値l actually take content from the desktop, profile it, and use it to drive our GPU architectures. This is one of the things that you usually don't see in a lot of mobile GPU benchmarks," Shimpi explained. full interview here: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/11/apple-walks-ars-through-the-ipad-pros-a12x-system-on-a-chip/
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Nov 8, 2018 17:57
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Seems like the hold up for those 9900k's is likely a shortage of dodecahedron packaging.
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Nov 9, 2018 02:09
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Laslow posted:Seems like the hold up for those 9900k's is likely a shortage of dodecahedron packaging. I'm imagining a frustrated warehouse worker being really annoyed that he can only fit 4 dodecahedrons in a box the size of a minifridge
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Nov 9, 2018 02:27
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Yeah, but with the 9900k's thermal issues, you'd better loving believe I want the three year warranty of the boxed version over a tray-sold CPU that only carries, oh, *nothing*: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000024255/processors.html
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Nov 9, 2018 02:36
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Yeah, but with the 9900k's thermal issues, you'd better loving believe I want the three year warranty of the boxed version over a tray-sold CPU that only carries, oh, *nothing*: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000024255/processors.html Yikes, good to know. My 9900k just arrived today, I bought out my buddy痴 preorder when he got cold feet about it and went with an 8700k instead. Now I知 glad it came in the stupid packaging. Will be building tomorrow, will find out just how much this 2500k has been holding back my 1080Ti.
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Nov 9, 2018 03:58
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Laslow posted:Seems like the hold up for those 9900k's is likely a shortage of dodecahedron packaging. poo poo is hard to fold.
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Nov 9, 2018 04:03
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The packaging is actually really annoying to open up and when the dang suddenly gave way, the box with the processor inside went flying out. It's a pretty sweet chip though, especially when you can give it a 5 GHz all core at 1.26 V. AVX torture at a toasty 90 degrees, but Realbench at 70, and gaming/streaming in the mid-50s. Sergeant Steiner posted:Will be building tomorrow, will find out just how much this 2500k has been holding back my 1080Ti. I did the same upgrade, though my graphics card is worse. I was surprised.
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Nov 9, 2018 05:11
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Even with a 970, the 2500k seems like it cant keep up in Battlefield V.
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Nov 9, 2018 05:21
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Battlefield 1 was one of the first titles that where it really became apparent my CPU was a significant bottleneck, so it痴 not too surprising. I知 still surprised it lasted me this long, and it might live a few more years yet, I知 giving that whole system minus the GPU to a relative who only wants it for farting around in graphic design programs.
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Nov 9, 2018 05:45
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Yeah, but with the 9900k's thermal issues, you'd better loving believe I want the three year warranty of the boxed version over a tray-sold CPU that only carries, oh, *nothing*: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000024255/processors.html It's kinda moot if you're going to OC though, innit it?
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Nov 9, 2018 16:50
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ItBreathes posted:It's kinda moot if you're going to OC though, innit it? Not really. Unless you're doing something wild (LN2, etc.) where you already accept that you're way outside the realm of normal, and a fuckup might turn a chunk of your chip into slag, actually frying a chip via overclocking is quite difficult to do, and also not easy to prove from Intel's side. Taking a 9900k to 5.0-5.2 or whatever with a reasonable voltage to it would not leave much of anything for Intel to reject a warranty claim for.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:11
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Sergeant Steiner posted:Battlefield 1 was one of the first titles that where it really became apparent my CPU was a significant bottleneck, so it痴 not too surprising. I知 still surprised it lasted me this long, and it might live a few more years yet, I知 giving that whole system minus the GPU to a relative who only wants it for farting around in graphic design programs. In some fairness to the 2500k, BF1 was a CPU hog. But yeah, I think the 2500k's time is probably in the rear window.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:15
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So it seems like this new generation is basically impossible to get a hold of unless you pre-ordered. Is that accurate?
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Nov 9, 2018 17:15
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axeil posted:So it seems like this new generation is basically impossible to get a hold of unless you pre-ordered. Is that accurate? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117958 ???? You mean just the 9900k? That is hard right now to get a hold of, but the first month of release of intel is usually in and out of stock, it was for the 8700k too. The 9900k is kind of a specialty part and has high demand too, so it'll probably take a while to get stock stabilized. Edit: Newegg also has the 9900k, but at a steep markup as opposed to the moderate 9700k markup. But it's still available.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:33
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axeil posted:So it seems like this new generation is basically impossible to get a hold of unless you pre-ordered. Is that accurate? For the 9900k, also impossible to get if you did pre-order, in many cases. Some people have been able to snake one by setting up in-stock notifications and being real quick about it, but yeah, they're a bit hard to get ahold of right now. The 9700k is easy to get from the usual vendors (NewEgg, Amazon, etc), though you'll pay a $20-$40 premium above Intel's MSRP right now. Same with the 9600k, but more like a $20 premium.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:35
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Lockback posted:https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117958 Oh nice! I'm thinking of getting one for a Christmas present for myself. What's the recommended motherboard to use? I've historically been using ASUS but I heard some rumor that they've got an issue with voltage on the new generation. Is there any substance to that?
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Lockback posted:In some fairness to the 2500k, BF1 was a CPU hog. But yeah, I think the 2500k's time is probably in the rear window. Finally, that was one hell of an almost 8 year run.
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