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The Cheshire Cat posted:I think there's another doctrine you can pick up that does let you hold temples (temporal leadership?), so you'd probably take them in combination if you wanted an equivalent to Iqta government (they've already stated that there are special effects for having certain doctrinal combinations, so for some of them you might get a special government type). There's always a chance there's a special government combination in there, but without having seen it already, I wouldn't count on it.
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It might just be possible that picking temporal leadership, and a combination of agnatic clans with either religious taxes or polygamy gives you the ability to hold temples.
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I never realized how much not being able to hold temples bothered me till just this second for all the times I've been Fylkir
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winterwerefox posted:I never realized how much not being able to hold temples bothered me till just this second for all the times I've been Fylkir It deprives you of the 5% bonus to MA you get when the head of religion holds a holy site, unless you are willing to just take an inferior holding.
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The best thing about being able to hold temples is that you don't end up with random kin that are disinherited because they ended up being the heir to a temple somewhere. It's also a good place to put matri married dynastic women where they can generate new potential heirs, but won't be plotted against as much as if they had been feudal vassals somewhere.
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A bad thing about being able to hold temples is that when you think "oh, I'll give this great guy this temple" and then later thing "oh, I need to give away this province? Hand it to that guy" you've just created a bishopric and now you won't get the title of religious leader when you reform.
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Omnicarus posted:So after 627 hours in this game, I am finally thinking I will try Ironman mode before Honky Fury comes. Is there anything I should be aware of for this? I just finished my first ironman game ever and can't imagine going back to non-ironman at this point. It definitely makes the game more fun. It also makes you think a bit longer about taking risks like going to war or imprisoning someone with a decent chance of escape/revolt. This was my first time playing as a large empire and occasionally I was running into vassal limit issues. Is there a way to better visualize or understand what I can do to reduce it? I ended up just transferring counts or dukes to my heir in most cases, but sometimes that wouldn't work and I don't know why
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Commissar Canuck posted:I just finished my first ironman game ever and can't imagine going back to non-ironman at this point. It definitely makes the game more fun. It also makes you think a bit longer about taking risks like going to war or imprisoning someone with a decent chance of escape/revolt. Vassal limits mainly enforce the "natural" rank order. In a big empire, you don't want any counts among you direct vassal, transfer them all to their dukes. But even that can leave you exceeding your vassal limit if you play a big empire, which forces you to use vassal kings. There are basically two limits on transferring vassals. The vassal you want to give away must not be at war, and you can only transfer dukes to their de jure kings.
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Torrannor posted:Vassal limits mainly enforce the "natural" rank order. In a big empire, you don't want any counts among you direct vassal, transfer them all to their dukes. But even that can leave you exceeding your vassal limit if you play a big empire, which forces you to use vassal kings. Ok, that makes more sense now. I assume the game auto filters the available vassals on the transfer vassals view? If so that would explain why I was getting a bunch of barons and bishops at one point only to see a random count when I tried it again with someone else a few minutes later
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Commissar Canuck posted:Ok, that makes more sense now. I assume the game auto filters the available vassals on the transfer vassals view? If so that would explain why I was getting a bunch of barons and bishops at one point only to see a random count when I tried it again with someone else a few minutes later Yes, if you are not allowed to transfer a vassal to somebody, they will not show up on the list.
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Crusader Kings 2: loving my sister with Honky Fury
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Ivan Shitskin posted:Crusader Kings 2: loving my sister with Honky Fury
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It Wasn't Zeus Who Made Honky Tonk Fury
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Crusader Kings 2: Zeus Vult
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I'll write the new OP this weekend. Do we have to write a mod to close this thread when I've posted the new one? If yes, one of you will have to do it.
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Red Bones posted:Crusader Kings 2: I'm going to start my own religion! With polygamy! And incest! I like this 
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Quorum posted:I mean, it is the Crusades update... I'm wondering now what the hell Omni is typing that his phone autocorrected "Holy" to "Honky".
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Torrannor posted:I'll write the new OP this weekend. Unless your thread has been coronated by the pope you have no legitimacy to close this one. This will be viewed as an act of tyranny.
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Volkerball posted:Unless your thread has been coronated by the pope you have no legitimacy to close this one. This will be viewed as an act of tyranny. Just pack the new thread with posters who are loyal to you and it'll be fine
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MaxieSatan posted:Just pack the new thread with posters who are loyal to you and it'll be fine Or pick seduction focus and... actually, never mind.
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Jedit posted:I'm wondering now what the hell Omni is typing that his phone autocorrected "Holy" to "Honky". why is that a thing you'd even want to question? just bask in it's beauty.
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Azhais posted:Crusader Kings II: Honky Fury
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Out of the many new and fresh starts the expansion will provide, my first playthrough will likely be an attempt to infiltrate and reform the Honky Roman Empire.
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I wish there were more (english) books or sites dedicated to medieval/pagan baltic culture. I don't think I can properly RP as Lithuania otherwise. Also it's fun to hypothesize an alternate eastern europe in which the Balts and not the Slavs had a population boom and expanded all over.
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yo when are we getting some pre release let's plays of holy fury?
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Tercio posted:yo when are we getting some pre release let's plays of holy fury? this weekeng
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I'm ready for some Honky Kings action. Don't know what I want my first game to be yet though. Probably Nords but I've been leaning towards Slavics lately.
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I'm going straight for West Africa, no question. I'm really glad Paradox gave them some cool poo poo.
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MaxieSatan posted:I'm going straight for West Africa, no question. I'm really glad Paradox gave them some cool poo poo. Same. Then maybe some flavor of Slav, I haven't decided yet.
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I'm probably doing the boring thing and playing Catholic first because A) almost all of the new portrait sets are for Catholic areas B) the new Crusade mechanics look cool as hell and C) look at this loving dope-rear end helmet you can get 
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ninjahedgehog posted:I'm probably doing the boring thing and playing Catholic first because A) almost all of the new portrait sets are for Catholic areas B) the new Crusade mechanics look cool as hell and C) look at this loving dope-rear end helmet you can get theyre really outdoing themselves with this one
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+1 for West Africa. I like to roleplay my characters so I don't know if I'll get someone bloodthirsty. But if I do, boy howdy am I going for HAEMOARCH.
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Crow Jane posted:Same. Then maybe some flavor of Slav, I haven't decided yet. Same, but in reverse. I can't even decide how I want to reform the faith yet, there are so many good options.
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Definitely gonna play the non-honky kings first. Last time I tried a Mali game it really sucked, but the new trade routes and reformation mechanics look like they lend themselves to a ck2 > eu4 game that I really want to try
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I'm gonna put my vassal west African pope on his rightful throne in rome, and with his rightful title of king of Italia.
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what impacts whether the fabricate claims event fires? I've had three chancellors grow old and die trying to get me a claim in Rome so I can install a Fraticelli pope
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indigi posted:what impacts whether the fabricate claims event fires? I've had three chancellors grow old and die trying to get me a claim in Rome so I can install a Fraticelli pope Assuming your courtier isn't landed, double check them to see if they haven't had a sudden suspicious influx of cash. Someone being targeted by claim fabrication attempts sometimes gets an event that lets them bribe the fabricator to just quietly do nothing for a loooong time.
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indigi posted:what impacts whether the fabricate claims event fires? I've had three chancellors grow old and die trying to get me a claim in Rome so I can install a Fraticelli pope Why not just holy war for it if you're fraticelli?
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:Why not just holy war for it if you're fraticelli? Or if you've got JD and are willing to probably take an opinion hit, just do a border dispute war.
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I mean if you're going to install a fraticelli pope the next crusade will be for rome so you might as well get used to fighting all the catholics anyway. Another way to get a claim on rome is to be catholic then set up an anti pope. You get a cb to install him as the pope then and he remains your vassal if you win. Usually my vassal pope fills the role of court jester. GokuGoesSSj69 fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Nov 8, 2018 |
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