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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Hel posted:

From my understanding it wasn't that Sims 4 sold Sims 3 expansion features as DLC, it was that 4 sold features from 3 core as DLC.

Yeah, The Sims 4 started out incredibly bare compared to 3. The basic gameplay is improved, but all of the details were hosed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98hzcT7U0HA

"If this game was going for a job interview, it was coming into the room, calling me a racist name, and having a poo on my desk. It is not good at starting."

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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

https://twitter.com/questforeywa/status/1059996116278829061

Can I just complain in general about the marketing for the new Grinch movie?

It's fuckin' dire.

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Get with the times old man. No one complains about food pics anymore. All we care about now is being queer, eating rear end, and wishing we were all dead.

No wonder no one retweeted it.

TontoCorazon
Aug 18, 2007


Picnic Princess posted:

Get with the times old man. No one complains about food pics anymore. All we care about now is being queer, eating rear end, and wishing we were all dead.

No wonder no one retweeted it.

Nobody want's to see the grinch eat rear end, but they do wish he was dead.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I can't eat this rear end, it's two sizes too small!

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Waffleman_ posted:

https://twitter.com/questforeywa/status/1059996116278829061

Can I just complain in general about the marketing for the new Grinch movie?

It's fuckin' dire.

The best Grinch advertising I've seen has been billboards at Universal Hollywood where it's just snarking about the park's problems, like making fun of all the escalators you need to take.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Waffleman_ posted:

https://twitter.com/questforeywa/status/1059996116278829061

Can I just complain in general about the marketing for the new Grinch movie?

It's fuckin' dire.

About 2 years ago we stopped complaining about food posts and cat pictures. We have welcomed them back with open arms while Boomers flood the rest of our feeds with The Truth about George Soros.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Waffleman_ posted:

https://twitter.com/questforeywa/status/1059996116278829061

Can I just complain in general about the marketing for the new Grinch movie?

It's fuckin' dire.

How about just complain that there's another Grinch movie?

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

https://twitter.com/Nyxfears/status/1060340672128000000

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
Wh

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
at?

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I think this sketch sums things up with MoviePass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBO_7UezpbY

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
moviepass makes me sad now

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.
I'm jealous of the people who got to abuse it for a couple years

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

evidently these marketing geniuses have come up with the idea of putting big obnoxious Capital One ads on the flip sides of fortune cookie fortunes. I know this because I got one of their wretched loving little cookies



these sniveling twerps should be cut into strips and fed to dogs

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
Man, I liked fortune cookies.

fizzymercury
Aug 18, 2011
Are you seriously angry about ads on the back of free cookies? Cause I can get mad at a lot of things, but I don't understand why this is so evil.

e: No I'm wrong they're horrible people. The fortune ads are whatever, I can understand putting an ad on blank space, but they're just so incredibly smug I wanna stuff cookies up their nostrils.

https://digiday.com/marketing/nowhere-safe-fortune-cookies-now-ads-starting-capital-one/

fizzymercury has a new favorite as of 14:03 on Nov 8, 2018

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

fizzymercy posted:

Are you seriously angry about ads on the back of free cookies? Cause I can get mad at a lot of things, but I don't understand why this is so evil.

:ssh: hyperbole is your best entertainment value :ssh:

that said, every single fortune I've ever read until a couple of nights ago has never had an ad on it; it's had a "fortune" on one side (and of course one always feels a little let down when it's a platitude or compliment rather than an actual prediction) and the other side is blank or has "lucky numbers" or whatever. I do find the trend of putting advertisements in and on every single conceivable space despicable and I have to admit that putting an ad literally into someone's meal is some next-level sinister bullshit

e: re: your e: for marketing people, horrible and smug is not only a default setting but considered to be an actual advantage

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

fizzymercy posted:

Are you seriously angry about ads on the back of free cookies? Cause I can get mad at a lot of things, but I don't understand why this is so evil.

e: No I'm wrong they're horrible people. The fortune ads are whatever, I can understand putting an ad on blank space, but they're just so incredibly smug I wanna stuff cookies up their nostrils.

https://digiday.com/marketing/nowhere-safe-fortune-cookies-now-ads-starting-capital-one/

I just hate ads and it's exhausting to see them on literally everything, everywhere.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Pastry of the Year posted:

that said, every single fortune I've ever read until a couple of nights ago has never had an ad on it; it's had a "fortune" on one side (and of course one always feels a little let down when it's a platitude or compliment rather than an actual prediction) and the other side is blank or has "lucky numbers" or whatever. I do find the trend of putting advertisements in and on every single conceivable space despicable and I have to admit that putting an ad literally into someone's meal is some next-level sinister bullshit

The good cookies always have "here's a word in Chinese" on the back of the fortune.

fizzymercury
Aug 18, 2011
My fortune cookies have a website for a second fortune and you get to enter your lucky numbers there to win a THIRD fortune. There's an ad every three pixels on the site too. I think complimentary poo poo gets a bit of a pass from me on advertisements because I'm a pushover.

Now if those cookies also taste bad AND have that smarmy ad? That's a kicking.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Waffleman_ posted:

I can't eat this rear end, it's two sizes too small!

And what happened, then? Well, in Whoville they say
that the Grinch’s small butt grew three sizes that day.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Pastry of the Year posted:

:ssh: hyperbole is your best entertainment value :ssh:

that said, every single fortune I've ever read until a couple of nights ago has never had an ad on it; it's had a "fortune" on one side (and of course one always feels a little let down when it's a platitude or compliment rather than an actual prediction) and the other side is blank or has "lucky numbers" or whatever. I do find the trend of putting advertisements in and on every single conceivable space despicable and I have to admit that putting an ad literally into someone's meal is some next-level sinister bullshit

e: re: your e: for marketing people, horrible and smug is not only a default setting but considered to be an actual advantage

The thing that gets me the most about the continual increase in marketing is that so many people paying for marketing don't understand that a lot of the people they're marketing to are loving broke. It's like "hey, how do we increase our market share and get more revenue? I know, we must need to come up with new ways to market!"

Maybe you should stop deliberately impoverishing, you know, everybody.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

It is extremely true for certain goods* to the point of comedy. Yes, company, Im sure that the average household making 75,000 a year is very interested and willing to consider your 3,000 dollar specialty product and it should be the forefront of this campaign.

*Luxury goods dont pretend, they know they speak to the upper 1% and up exclusively

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

ToxicSlurpee posted:

The thing that gets me the most about the continual increase in marketing is that so many people paying for marketing don't understand that a lot of the people they're marketing to are loving broke. It's like "hey, how do we increase our market share and get more revenue? I know, we must need to come up with new ways to market!"

Maybe you should stop deliberately impoverishing, you know, everybody.

Read the Bad With Money thread. Being broke is no impediment to running up credit cards on dumb pointless poo poo. There's a Zuarg born every minute, as PT Barnum would say.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Barudak posted:

It is extremely true for certain goods* to the point of comedy. Yes, company, Im sure that the average household making 75,000 a year is very interested and willing to consider your 3,000 dollar specialty product and it should be the forefront of this campaign.

*Luxury goods dont pretend, they know they speak to the upper 1% and up exclusively

Luxury goods have a weird inverse of the laws of supply and demand. The higher the price goes and the more rare it is, the more the demand increases.

When Arnold Schwarzenegger moved to the United States (already pretty wealthy due to supplement and workout equipment sales and endorsements in Europe), he and his bodybuilding friend started a bricklaying company in LA. It didn't succeed until they raised their prices and advertised themselves as "specialty European bricklayers", at which point rich clients started throwing money at them.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

Panfilo posted:

Read the Bad With Money thread. Being broke is no impediment to running up credit cards on dumb pointless poo poo. There's a Zuarg born every minute, as PT Barnum would say.

Well aware but that runs out too. Convincing people to go into massive debt is just more gently caress the long term I demand profits now crap. Saddling people with obscene debt is just another way of impoverishing people.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
Trends seem like they are moving in the other direction, though. Tons of payday loan places which aggressively market themselves to vulnerable groups, cars purchased with 8+ year financing, and people taking on massive amounts of undischargable student loans.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug
Yup. Predatory lending preying on the desperate.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

chitoryu12 posted:

Luxury goods have a weird inverse of the laws of supply and demand. The higher the price goes and the more rare it is, the more the demand increases.

When Arnold Schwarzenegger moved to the United States (already pretty wealthy due to supplement and workout equipment sales and endorsements in Europe), he and his bodybuilding friend started a bricklaying company in LA. It didn't succeed until they raised their prices and advertised themselves as "specialty European bricklayers", at which point rich clients started throwing money at them.

The term for what Chitoryu is talking about is a Veblen good; one where increasing its price increases its sales/revenue.

An example of a business loving this up was coach who tried to lure cheaper buyers with lower entry point bags only to discover a) those people still dont buy a ton of bags and b) the people who do buy expensive coach bags sure as poo poo dont want their bags to seem cheaper so they wont buy the expensive ones. They killed the line after a few years, raised the remaining products prices and bounced back.

An extreme example is Hermes who may have the most devious method of extracting value from people and is like if a casino, used car dealership, and bribery had a legal business baby

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

Waffleman_ posted:

https://twitter.com/PUBG/status/1059616915868381184

Is doing a tie-in for a movie that came out two years ago and wasn't particularly popular critically a dumb marketing move?

suicide squad made like 750 million on a 175 million budget, not counting dvd sales or merchandise or w/e...

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Please refer to it by its correct name, Academy Award Winning Film Suicide Squad

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug
I forget which vodka company it was but they wanted more profit because they were, you know, a company. They tried making more but people only drink so much vodka. So they tripled the price and put it in a fancier bottle. People just assumed it was better. Not only did the profit per bottle go up but they sold more bottles.

Somebody testing wine tasters put the same wine in two bottles. One had a boring label. The other had a fancy label. The nicer label got consistently higher ratings despite being literally the same wine. Then they put white wine with food coloring in a red wine bottle and got compliments on the wonderful red wine. Two buck Chuck is considered to be consistently very good wine despite being dirt rear end cheap. Inflation made it be not two dollars but it isn't three yet.

If you buy something really expensive you're mostly paying to say you are able to but the expensive thing. It isn't necessarily the best and if your favorite is the cheapest then gently caress it, but that one.

Very high end luxury goods are mostly things you buy to impress people and set yourself above us mere plebs.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

The problem with wine tastings is that only a psycho just drinks wine. You're supposed to eat it with food and not just in any pretentious way. It's just a thing you drink with your bar snacks or meatloaf. If you eat a spicy gumbo and drink a dark red wine you'll definitely know that wine is crap because it will be very unpleasant. Don't judge any wine by itself. It's always meant to go with food.

And some of the european wine prices are out of control because they care about bullshit like terroir where grapes grown in certain lands are more special so they can charge more even if it tastes the same.

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Mu Zeta posted:

The problem with wine tastings is that only a psycho just drinks wine. You're supposed to eat it with food and not just in any pretentious way. It's just a thing you drink with your bar snacks or meatloaf. If you eat a spicy gumbo and drink a dark red wine you'll definitely know that wine is crap because it will be very unpleasant. Don't judge any wine by itself. It's always meant to go with food.

And some of the european wine prices are out of control because they care about bullshit like terroir where grapes grown in certain lands are more special so they can charge more even if it tastes the same.

Exactly. Ask any suburban mom and she'll tell you that anti-depressants pair well with a nice Rose, but amphetamines (excuse me, diet pills) have a bouquet more brought out by a subtle white.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Crimpolioni posted:

suicide squad made like 750 million on a 175 million budget, not counting dvd sales or merchandise or w/e...

And it was a bust, because Hollywood is insane

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Wine is very nice to sip on while watching netflix with your fiance on the couch. But, you know, I just go with cheap VQA white cause I support local producers.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Crimpolioni posted:

suicide squad made like 750 million on a 175 million budget, not counting dvd sales or merchandise or w/e...


CharlestheHammer posted:

And it was a bust, because Hollywood is insane

over half the gross was from the foreign market and hollywood couldn't give a gently caress about the foreign market unless it's one of the special coveted foreign markets that they're supposed to care about because they get less returns from it

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Suicide Squad was a bust only because of Marvel. In any other decade it would have been a huge blockbuster.

Also, unlike Marvel, DC is getting already popular (and expensive) actors so it gets progressively more expensive to crank out sequels, which is all anyone cares about. Marvel did a great job of finding the next big star (Evans, Pratt, Hemsworth) whereas DC hired Will Smith and Ben Affleck. So their films make less money and are more expensive to make.

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CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Pastry of the Year posted:

:ssh: hyperbole is your best entertainment value :ssh:

that said, every single fortune I've ever read until a couple of nights ago has never had an ad on it; it's had a "fortune" on one side (and of course one always feels a little let down when it's a platitude or compliment rather than an actual prediction) and the other side is blank or has "lucky numbers" or whatever. I do find the trend of putting advertisements in and on every single conceivable space despicable and I have to admit that putting an ad literally into someone's meal is some next-level sinister bullshit

e: re: your e: for marketing people, horrible and smug is not only a default setting but considered to be an actual advantage

There's going to be a point at which the ads have less value than the ink used to print them, the energy used to broadcast them, and/or the workers used to produce them. I'm pretty sure we passed that point ages ago, but geniuses like these don't care that they're simply cannibalizing their own industry, because they're getting paid.

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