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axeil posted:if CHUDs broke down Jim Acosta's door you would not be trying to trivialize it. Things that are different are different, I agree. 
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evilweasel posted:breaking down someone's door while people are home is a very explicit threat of violence, and that context is easily understood by anyone Considering how consistently being named on FOX has lead to harassment and even murder of the person named, I suggest that having your name in Tucker’s mouth is also a very explicit call for violence.
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axeil posted:if CHUDs broke down Jim Acosta's door you would not be trying to trivialize it. Exactly. Breaking down someone's door is absolutely serious, and can be traumitising.
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Pretty much anything a right wing pundit or politician says is probably lying so never repeat their claims without serious double-checking.
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The did not break down his door.
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axeil posted:if CHUDs broke down Jim Acosta's door you would not be trying to trivialize it. Jim would destroy them because while they were getting upset about transgender bathrooms he was studying the blade
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https://twitter.com/BBuchman_CNS/status/1060646927958765568 Read: brown people are are not welcome in our asylum system because they're not white Christians from the Middle East
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Lightning Knight posted:Things that are different are different, I agree. no, that was a stupid loving argument. if his door wasn't actually broken down then the factual predicate is wrong, but arguing breaking someone's door down while they're at home - which is what you chose to characterize as "property damage" - is so loving stupid it defies description. it is a stupid, stupid argument and he is putting in different people to demonstrate that it is a stupid, stupid argument because you're only making it because of the personalities involved rather than because it makes any sense at all.
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Lightning Knight posted:Things that are different are different, I agree. protesters break down a left-leaning media figure's door = bad protesters break down a right-leaning media figure's door = good do you not see the hypocrisy in this? tucker carlson sucks and shouldn't be on tv but he shouldn't get his door broken down. evilweasel posted:no, that was a stupid loving argument. if his door wasn't actually broken down then the factual predicate is wrong, but arguing breaking someone's door down while they're at home - which is what you chose to characterize as "property damage" - is so loving stupid it defies description. it is a stupid, stupid argument and he is putting in different people to demonstrate that it is a stupid, stupid argument because you're only making it because of the personalities involved rather than because it makes any sense at all. encouraging/cheering the breaking down of people's doors while there at home is pretty drat close to endorsing violence against them which is real 
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i'd bet this is enjoined nationally within the next two weeks and ultimately is brought down on some kind of APA issue (failure to do this through N&C and trying to push it through immediately as an interim final rule, if i had to take a guess)
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axeil posted:protesters break down a left-leaning media figure's door = bad Good news. He didn't. This is like an Always Sunny episode.
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Why are we arguing about breaking down someone's door when it didn't loving happen? gently caress it, sure, i agree that some hypothetical maybe bad, but let's focus on that fact that y'all are falling for the right wing spin on the narrative which transformed "someone knocked on the door hard and there's a crack in it" to "they beat the door down with a battering ram and laid claim to anything that was inside" Next let's talk about how Acosta really did assault that intern
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I actually don't care if rich people get their doors broken down
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evilweasel posted:no, that was a stupid loving argument. if his door wasn't actually broken down then the factual predicate is wrong, but arguing breaking someone's door down while they're at home - which is what you chose to characterize as "property damage" - is so loving stupid it defies description. it is a stupid, stupid argument and he is putting in different people to demonstrate that it is a stupid, stupid argument because you're only making it because of the personalities involved rather than because it makes any sense at all. Jim Acosta isn't a white nationalist, so breaking down his door would be bad. Tucker Carlson is a white nationalist, so breaking down his door would be fine (in a moral sense, I am not arguing it should be legal). Property damage isn't going to hurt his kids. axeil posted:protesters break down a left-leaning media figure's door = bad I don't agree that it's hypocritical because I don't agree that white nationalist/fascism is equivalent to other political ideologies.
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evilweasel posted:no, that was a stupid loving argument. if his door wasn't actually broken down then the factual predicate is wrong, but arguing breaking someone's door down while they're at home - which is what you chose to characterize as "property damage" - is so loving stupid it defies description. it is a stupid, stupid argument and he is putting in different people to demonstrate that it is a stupid, stupid argument because you're only making it because of the personalities involved rather than because it makes any sense at all. If you don't stop now we will be discussing the merits of something that DID NOT HAPPEN for the next 10 pages. Have mercy.
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No one can withstand Jim Acosta’s titanium pincer attacks.
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twice burned ice posted:https://twitter.com/BBuchman_CNS/status/1060646927958765568 Where are people finding white Christians in the middle east.
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/StephenAtHome/status/1060577331759210497 God, I loving hate this so much. On some level, I absolutely agree with the sentiment: it DOES feel like this is crossing some kind of line that should give reasonable people pause. But rich media personalities rushing out with these lukewarm musings about civility are ignoring the context that they have completely abdicated their responsibility to fight this problem the "right" way for YEARS. Tucker Carlson and his ilk have grown into such a vile cesspool because they were given legitimacy by everyone clutching their pearls about this now, or at the absolute most, made the butt of some jokes that were very intentionally designed to not cut *too* deep. So really, every single time I see prominent names wax poetic about how we should be better than this, I really have to ask myself... what the gently caress do they expect people to do when they feel like no one is willing to actually fight on their behalf?
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axeil posted:protesters break down a left-leaning media figure's door = bad hey fun fact nobody's door got broken down at all
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corn in the bible posted:Jim would destroy them because while they were getting upset about transgender bathrooms he was studying the blade Yeah, did you see what he did to that WH intern? Fun fact: Jim Acosta is the basis for Nic Cage's character in "Con Air."
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Grape posted:Where are people finding white Christians in the middle east. Maybe there’s a Bob Evans.
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Please we've already discussed the merits of hypothetically bombing his house and murdering his children
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I mean did anyone actually read the news report about this or are we all just hot taking off other people's hot takes? I put absolutely no faith in Tucker Carlson reporting that someone cracked Tucker Carlson's door because he's going to blow every single bit of this up as much as he can to get as much sympathy as he can so he can go on being a Nazi gently caress on TV without any personal consequences. Apparently THIS is the mob we're all freaking out about. Like six people with signs. This is what he's gotten everyone into a frothing "save Tucker's children" rage over: https://twitter.com/bakerlarry84/status/1060621509201461248
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Grape posted:Where are people finding white Christians in the middle east. There are fair-skinned, fair-haired people in Iran. They probably aren't getting in though.
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selec posted:Considering how consistently being named on FOX has lead to harassment and even murder of the person named, I suggest that having your name in Tucker’s mouth is also a very explicit call for violence. yes, i also think that the various right wing entities that wink wink nod nod encourage violence should be held to account for it. how, exactly, you cabin it to the right cases so it can't be misused is somewhat difficult, but it's a problem that needs solving and it also deserves forthright public recognition that's what they're doing instead of allowing them to evade responsibility by lying about what they're doing.
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withak posted:I look forward to learning what the 2018 equivalent is for hanging chads. How about hanging chuds? this is a joke, don't hang people
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Yeah I'm not going to contribute to this argument further, my apologies. Carry on.
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Bakanogami posted:What should I write on my sign for the protest today A QR code that links to swap.avi
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corn in the bible posted:Jim would destroy them because while they were getting upset about transgender bathrooms he was studying the blade Acosta sighed as he drew his katana.
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Nov 8, 2018 22:45
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Break down Tucker Carlson's door every single night
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Martian posted:How about hanging chuds? No, hang the chuds
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Majorian posted:There are fair-skinned, fair-haired people in Iran. Aryans in Iran? How can this be 
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Spaced God posted:Why are we arguing about breaking down someone's door when it didn't loving happen? Seriously people are falling for right wing bullshit here and I'm seeing maybe why WAPO is so consistently naive.
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It's okay to break down his door, no one got hurt. It's okay to throw a brick in his window, no one got hurt. It's okay to kill him, his family is still alive. It's okay to injure his family, the children are still okay. It's okay to kill his wife, the children are better off. It's okay to kill his children, they would grow up just like him. ^^^ All things left-wing revolutions have done. Violence breeds violence. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I'd go to the anti-firing-mueller protest in my town today but the organizer said we're not allowed to talk to any passerbys or chant anything so gently caress that noise. I, too, love my protests be viewed exactly the same as parent who don't love their children: Seen and not heard.
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e: nevermind, time to end the Tucker derail.
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Spaced God posted:I'd go to the anti-firing-mueller protest in my town today but the organizer said we're not allowed to talk to any passerbys or chant anything so gently caress that noise. Who cares what they say Go and yell your fuckin head off
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For real Tucker putting it out there that his "house was broken into" and that his "family was threatened" was done for the explicit purpose of starting the discussion of whether it would be appropriate or not, whether it happened or not, and it's devilishly effective.CelestialScribe posted:It's okay to break down his door, no one got hurt. wtf are you arguing, and with who
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