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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Lurdiak posted:

Well from what we've seen of Satan in the show he's a huge rear end in a top hat too, which kinda undermines that reading.

I've only s seen up to episode 5 I think, and he's definitely come across as bad and wrong, but not just because Satan is the bad guy who is traditionally evil. It's because the Dark Lord's church is a patriarchal form of control and an establishment, which is a charge that can be leveled against Christian churches too. Threes a nuance that extends beyond "Satan is an embodiment of evil."

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Antisam
Jun 18, 2005

Witness the reverie of a mind filtered through tube...
Fun Shoe

Honest Thief posted:

Saw Mandy on a showing at some kind of pub with an audience that laughed at every of Cage's actions; I don't want to be the humour police but acting can be funny without laughing so loud at Nic Cage closing a fridge door in a very nonchalant way after a fight.

I'm honestly glad I saw it VOD because the scene where Red relapses in the bathroom would be ruined by people who are there to yuk it up at a Nicolas Cage performance.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

bushisms.txt posted:

https://rewire.news/religion-dispat...res-of-sabrina/

Biased article, but Satan does have a case here.

I was just comparing the new Suspiria to bits of Sabrina, interesting to see both got sued over copyrighted imagery.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

ruddiger posted:

I was just comparing the new Suspiria to bits of Sabrina, interesting to see both got sued over copyrighted imagery.

What was the issue in Suspiria?

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Honest Thief posted:

Saw Mandy on a showing at some kind of pub with an audience that laughed at every of Cage's actions; I don't want to be the humour police but acting can be funny without laughing so loud at Nic Cage closing a fridge door in a very nonchalant way after a fight.

I've said this before but basically everyone now is too ironically detached to engage with anything. If you sincerely enjoy Nicholas Cage instead of laughing at him because of memes then you're uncool and not in on the totally hilarious joke.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Skwirl posted:

What was the issue in Suspiria?

Ana Mendieta's estate sued them over shots that were reproductions of the late artist's work.

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/amazon-sued-suspiria-1202960972/

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

Antisamitism posted:

I'm honestly glad I saw it VOD because the scene where Red relapses in the bathroom would be ruined by people who are there to yuk it up at a Nicolas Cage performance.

I feel like my experience with that scene was alright, there were some laughs but it died down about the time he pulls out the bottle of vodka and then it got pretty quiet

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I don't like Dr. Who, but all the hate it's getting from sexists almost makes me want to check it out.

https://twitter.com/McKelvie/status/1060949647626264577

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
What's "PC" about a man giving birth?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Mechafunkzilla posted:

What's "PC" about a man giving birth?

*Something something* transagenda. Never mind that it happened in the Alien Nation tv show 30 years ago and in real life in Oregon a decade ago.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

Antisamitism posted:

I'm honestly glad I saw it VOD because the scene where Red relapses in the bathroom would be ruined by people who are there to yuk it up at a Nicolas Cage performance.

Oh yeah, they really let it loose on that particular scene.

CPL593H posted:

I've said this before but basically everyone now is too ironically detached to engage with anything. If you sincerely enjoy Nicholas Cage instead of laughing at him because of memes then you're uncool and not in on the totally hilarious joke.

It's like an eagerness to laugh at anything in a very dismissive way.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Honest Thief posted:

It's like an eagerness to laugh at anything in a very dismissive way.

Exactly. It's a complete insecurity about actually liking anything.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Mechafunkzilla posted:

What's "PC" about a man giving birth?

Conservative buzz words lose meaning so quickly when they start describing anything they see as "bad" with their latest funny word. See Trump literally saying the "socialists" will take away their health care (while conservatives are trying to end Medicare)

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
Someone laughing to hard at a movie or doing so at inappropriate times, like when someone is singing along too loud and off key at a concert, is one of those things you just have to suck up if it's annoying you, because you are pretty easily the lovely killjoy in the situation no matter how you try to justify the other person or people just not getting it.

Also that scene in Mandy that was brought up is in fact kind of god damned ridiculous and laughing at it doesn't even feel like it wasn't at least one of the intended reactions.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
It’s probably actually because that was a wild goofball scene by an actor who’s cultivated a persona of providing intense-bordering-absurd performances. I like Cage, but if you’re looking down your noses at audiences for laughing at that scene, it isn’t them that’s being aloof.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.
I didn't see Mandy yet, so I can't comment on it specifically but I see the kind of thing I'm talking about all the time. I went to a Godzilla screening a few years ago and most of the audience was just yukkin it up until about half way into the movie when they realized how grim it is. A lot of people are just above liking things now. It's obnoxious and stupid.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
the bathroom scene in Mandy is good but if you're expecting me to not laugh at Nic Cage going HWWOOOOAAAARGHHHHABBBRRGGHLLLL and smashing things

that's a genuinely really tall order

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
It's a ridiculous scene but it's still one of a character breaking down into tears and hyping himself into bloody murder. I mean laugh away, but what's so high-larious to the point of knee slapping about that or seeing him close a fridge door? Cause that literally happened: nic cage closes a door, followed by prolonged laughter

Honest Thief fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Nov 9, 2018

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

CPL593H posted:

A lot of people are just above liking things now. It's obnoxious and stupid.

The same goes for what we were talking about a few days ago, with awful poo poo like How It Should Have Ended and CinemaSins not actually critiquing movies for what they are, but rather "battling" them. Like you said, it's so obnoxious.

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



Maxwell Lord posted:

The trailers didn't grab me but that comparison has me intrigued now.

That trailer is decidedly obnoxious, but it’s actually good fun for what it is. Got a bit of Re-Animator blood in it too, right down to the giant needles of weirdly-colored goop.

Timby posted:

The same goes for what we were talking about a few days ago, with awful poo poo like How It Should Have Ended and CinemaSins not actually critiquing movies for what they are, but rather "battling" them. Like you said, it's so obnoxious.

They want to make themselves out to be smarter than the other plebs who see movies. I hate this whole trend of picking on minor inconsistencies and plot holes as if they’re integral parts of film criticism.

Friends Are Evil fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Nov 9, 2018

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Honest Thief posted:

It's a ridiculous scene but it's still one of a character breaking down into tears and hyping himself into bloody murder. I mean laugh away, but what's so high-larious to the point of knee slapping about that or seeing him close a fridge door? Cause that literally happened: nic cage closes a door, followed by prolonged laughter

i mean that's fair it's just that Nic Cage arglebargling is kind of an inherently funny thing to most people

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Friends Are Evil posted:

Got a bit of Re-Animator blood in it too, down to the giant needles of weirdly-colored goop.

You really are selling me on this.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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CPL593H posted:

I didn't see Mandy yet, so I can't comment on it specifically but I see the kind of thing I'm talking about all the time. I went to a Godzilla screening a few years ago and most of the audience was just yukkin it up until about half way into the movie when they realized how grim it is. A lot of people are just above liking things now. It's obnoxious and stupid.

My girlfriend and I saw The Exorcist a couple years ago, and there was laughing every time Reagan or Captain Howdy swore or did anything demonic, it was pretty annoying.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I

Honest Thief posted:

It's a ridiculous scene but it's still one of a character breaking down into tears and hyping himself into bloody murder. I mean laugh away, but what's so high-larious to the point of knee slapping about that or seeing him close a fridge door? Cause that literally happened: nic cage closes a door, followed by prolonged laughter

It’s a scene that literally has the structure of a shaggy dog joke.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
It’s a family guy skinned knee meme in the middle of 2018 art horror darling, Mandy

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

X-Ray Pecs posted:

My girlfriend and I saw The Exorcist a couple years ago, and there was laughing every time Reagan or Captain Howdy swore or did anything demonic, it was pretty annoying.

This sort of bullshit has largely ruined revival screenings for me. Everything old is considered lame and campy.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

i mean that's fair it's just that Nic Cage arglebargling is kind of an inherently funny thing to most people

Yeah. It’s why I love him so much. He can make me feel so many different things in a scene and no actor alive can do that. Like the Hokey Pokey scene in Mom and Dad is both really sad but goddamn absurd because you have a grown man yell singing the hokey pokey while smashing a pool table as a metaphor for killing his childhood.

Antisam
Jun 18, 2005

Witness the reverie of a mind filtered through tube...
Fun Shoe

Anonymous Robot posted:

It’s a scene that literally has the structure of a shaggy dog joke.

That classic joke structure that begins with a recovering alcoholic downing the bottle of vodka he has hidden under his bathroom sink.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

CPL593H posted:

This sort of bullshit has largely ruined revival screenings for me. Everything old is considered lame and campy.

I'm lucky that crowds here in Madison are largely respectful. I saw Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (with William Shatner in attendance!) back in September and there was no heckling at any point. Same with Ghostbusters.

But maybe that's just because half the audience was baked.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Mechafunkzilla posted:

What's "PC" about a man giving birth?

Pictured: PC Culture at work destroying our masculine ideals

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

CPL593H posted:

This sort of bullshit has largely ruined revival screenings for me. Everything old is considered lame and campy.

This is why I'm hesitant to see old movies at places that cater to people my age. I love the $5 classics screenings at Studio Movie Grill because they're full of olds.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Detective No. 27 posted:

This is why I'm hesitant to see old movies at places that cater to people my age. I love the $5 classics screenings at Studio Movie Grill because they're full of olds.

It kind of depends on what the movies is. If it's any sort of typical "nerd" movie then proceed with caution. I thought about it and more often than not repertory screenings are fine because of what the movie was or where it was. I've been to a bunch of poo poo at the Harvard Film Archive and basically because that's a kind of hoity toity place you don't have anyone being morons. But among others I've been to screenings of Aliens and the Big Lebowski and people there were insufferable although those were for reasons other than what I mentioned before. Still I feel like it's all the same kind of people because it's all just live memeing.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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That’s why the Alamo is great. Those people don’t go to these revival screenings.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Baron von Eevl posted:

I've only s seen up to episode 5 I think, and he's definitely come across as bad and wrong, but not just because Satan is the bad guy who is traditionally evil. It's because the Dark Lord's church is a patriarchal form of control and an establishment, which is a charge that can be leveled against Christian churches too. Threes a nuance that extends beyond "Satan is an embodiment of evil."

That's true, you take the blood and cannibalism out of the show and a lot of the conflicts between Sabrina and the church of night are just the same kind of conflicts you'd see between orthodox members of a judeo christian religion and someone Sabrina's age.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Eh you don't even really have to take it out, transubstantiation covers both of those in Catholic dogma.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
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TV
Travel
~Good Times~

CelticPredator posted:

That’s why the Alamo is great. Those people don’t go to these revival screenings.

My screening of the Exorcist was at the Alamo Drafthouse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I guess I’ve been lucky with revival screenings so far, because most of them have been filled rooms where you could hear a pin drop. I remember seeing Alien and the only scene that got a reaction was Ash being decapitated. There is this obvious cut from a puppet to an actor in make-up, so that got a chuckle.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
Lol, I got my partner a mycology textbook for Christmas, and it’s supposed to be a really comprehensive one that includes everything from instructions on growing mushrooms and using them as medicine to wild ravings about the political potential of mycelium colony-organisms. There’s even a chapter of just mushroom jokes in here.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


https://twitter.com/lyzl/status/1060945416987000835

We really need to stop thinking these old celebrities are on our side.

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