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GreyjoyBastard posted:well maybe you shouldn't be a violent counterrevolutionary then, Mel I honestly cant tell if this is ironic or not because some people actually believe this
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Nov 9, 2018 19:37
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Here's a list put out by House Democrats and Pelosi about what the first new House priorities will be in January. lol; can't wait for Dems to run on "Epipens will only have a 10 percent increase/year going forward, thanks to us, the party that voted against prescription-drug price controls to be included in the ACA. Thank your lucky stars that you're only paying $660 for that epipen now instead of $800!" That the Dems' healthcare solutions call for "slowing the increases in the price of unregulated provider and drug costs" shows the total hollowness of their ideas.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:37
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Iron Twinkie posted:On the left, San Fransisco is an evil place. The tech industry has turned it into one of the most unequal places in the country. Homelessness is rampant. Gentrification is pushing the poor and working class out of a place they've called home for decades. It's unique culture and character replaced with empty, sterile, corporatism. There is a vast divide between the haves and have nots in that city and that divide is ever growing. As Congresses top corporate fundraiser and with a net worth of hundreds of millions of dollars, it's clear which side of that divide Pelosi represents. Nancy Pelosi represents San Fransisco as it exists as a triumph of capitalism over the rights, health, and well being of it's own citizens and is the left's enemy. Ah yes, but have you heard, Skex posted:Pelosi is a grown up I'm not worried about that. Unlike many "leftists" here Pelosi knows who the real enemy is. Bezos, Musk, and Buffett are all Good Billionaires who have financially backed Nazi campaigns. Just in case anyone was like, forgetting or something.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:38
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Ehhhh I don't really like Pelosi, but bipartisanship is one of those things that, while it doesn't exist anymore, gets voters' dicks hard. If she sets up that she wants to work together and the GOP subsequently doesn't do that, it just creates more ammo for blaming the GOP for all of the country's problems in the next election. You can argue whether that's a good strategy or not, but Nancy Pelosi knows just as well as we do that bipartisanship is not going to happen.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:39
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"When I was an infant, Broward county sent a time traveling Antifa back from 2016 to strangle me in my crib, but I was already too strong for him to stop me. Really nasty county! Bad people!"
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Nov 9, 2018 19:39
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Mince Pieface posted:I honestly cant tell if this is ironic or not because some people actually believe this that's why it's a good joke  I find China very interesting and am very curious as to what of its current stuff winds up working well long-term, but I am not inclined to uncritically repeat PRC propaganda.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:40
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Faustian Bargain posted:This is the new "If professors aren't biased against conservatives, then why do conservatives get worse grades?" "If voters aren't being led astray by the evil left, why do they hate our lovely right-wing policies?" Mahoning posted:Ehhhh I don't really like Pelosi, but bipartisanship is one of those things that, while it doesn't exist anymore, gets voters' dicks hard. I think the problem is, the people whose dicks get hard over bipartisanship are already 100% in the tank for the Dems at this point.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:40
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Willa Rogers posted:lol; can't wait for Dems to run on "Epipens will only have a 10 percent increase/year going forward, thanks to us, the party that voted against prescription-drug price controls to be included in the ACA. Thank your lucky stars that you're only paying $660 for that epipen now instead of $800!" I have a lot of thoughts on drug prices given I work in pharma and I don't think universal healthcare will solve the problem. We need increased socialization/nationalization of drug R&D to solve the challenges of drug development and remove incentives to price fix
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Nov 9, 2018 19:40
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No one cares about bipartisanship outside of Beltway wonks and idiotic pundits.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:41
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Willa Rogers posted:lol; can't wait for Dems to run on "Epipens will only have a 10 percent increase/year going forward, thanks to us, the party that voted against prescription-drug price controls to be included in the ACA. Thank your lucky stars that you're only paying $660 for that epipen now instead of $800!" I'm personally excited for the Dems to trade away permanent cuts to social programs to get a one-time infusion of cash into infrastructure. If they're really efficient they can also give the rich some more tax cuts while they're at it. Mahoning posted:Ehhhh I don't really like Pelosi, but bipartisanship is one of those things that, while it doesn't exist anymore, gets voters' dicks hard. If she sets up that she wants to work together and the GOP subsequently doesn't do that, it just creates more ammo for blaming the GOP for all of the country's problems in the next election. I hope it's just rhetoric but self-defeating and Democrat are practically synonyms at this point. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:42
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Nov 9, 2018 19:42
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Radish posted:No one cares about bipartisanship outside of Beltway wonks and idiotic pundits. most voters do care about bipartisanship, and it's why one of mitch's specific strategies was to make sure obama never, ever got a "bipartisan" victory as long as pelosi is adopting the republican definition that "bipartisanship is when you agree with me; partisanship is what you're doing when you refuse to agree with me" (and that's pretty consistent with her past 12 years as speaker/minority leader) and "bipartisanship is when you give us something we demand in exchange for passing funding bills" then it sounds good to me
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Nov 9, 2018 19:43
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Radish posted:No one cares about bipartisanship outside of Beltway wonks and idiotic pundits. Uh, no, tons of voters are absolutely dumb enough to love hearing about bipartisanship
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Nov 9, 2018 19:43
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https://twitter.com/CNNValencia/status/1060952948774260736
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Nov 9, 2018 19:43
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Mahoning posted:Ehhhh I don't really like Pelosi, but bipartisanship is one of those things that, while it doesn't exist anymore, gets voters' dicks hard. No it doesn't. Putting money in the hands of poor people and making their material lives stable will "get their dicks/clits hard." Hence the rise of the DSA, and everything. What the Democrats keep insisting is "Already Great" has become a breeding ground for fascism that allows shitheels like Trump to take office. Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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Nov 9, 2018 19:44
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Nov 9, 2018 19:45
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Lemming posted:Uh, no, tons of voters are absolutely dumb enough to love hearing about bipartisanship the hidden danger here is that the president is the one who gets credit for bipartisanship. if democrats pass a good infrastructure bill with republican support - one that has nothing objectionable in it - Trump, not Democrats, will get the "credit" from these low-information voters
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Nov 9, 2018 19:45
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Radish posted:No one cares about bipartisanship outside of Beltway wonks and idiotic pundits. Unfortunately, no. 2018 was actually a record year for people wanting bipartisan compromise. quote:Americans Favor Compromise to Get Things Done in Washington in 2018.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:45
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Lemming posted:Uh, no, tons of voters are absolutely dumb enough to love hearing about bipartisanship Everyone trying to openly hammer this point home really needs to inject class analysis into their political understanding of the world, because jesus christ, voter turnout hit a 20 year low in 2016 for a loving reason, and it sure as hell wasn't Russia.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:45
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Just include some automatically disqualifying questions about the importance of government in properly managing common resources and the economy and I'd approve that test.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:47
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Taintrunner posted:Ah yes, but have you heard, “Good” billionaire Tom Steyer was a speaker at the “protect Mueller” rally in SF yesterday. So many Democrats believe there is such a thing as a good billionaire. 
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Nov 9, 2018 19:47
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evilweasel posted:most voters do care about bipartisanship, and it's why one of mitch's specific strategies was to make sure obama never, ever got a "bipartisan" victory Not to nitpick, but if the point about Mitch denying any bipartisan opportunity is true, wouldn’t voters have therefore punished the Republicans at the polls for the obstructionism? I don’t have a coherent answer, I just don’t see why Democrats have to be bipartisan because voters like it, while Republicans get to be as partisan as they drat well please lest the whole country fall to the gay socialist undocumented immigrant hordes or whatever.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:47
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Kobayashi posted:“Good” billionaire Tom Steyer was a speaker at the “protect Mueller” rally in SF yesterday. So many Democrats believe there is such a thing as a good billionaire. Like this thread, when people were cheering him on when he kept running those ads saying that we need to impeach Trump?
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Nov 9, 2018 19:48
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Taintrunner posted:Everyone trying to openly hammer this point home really needs to inject class analysis into their political understanding of the world, because jesus christ, voter turnout hit a 20 year low in 2016 for a loving reason, and it sure as hell wasn't Russia. People who care about bipartisanship are loving morons. Lots of voters are loving morons. I'm not making some deep point about how things should be or that focusing on bipartisanship at the expense of real change isn't wrong, it's just a fact that a lot people, especially the dumbass liberals, really like the abstract idea of compromise and working together. This is just in response to the person claiming nobody cares about bipartisanship. It's just incorrect.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:48
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This is like something out of The Road.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:48
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Nov 9, 2018 19:49
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This is the new normal, and it will start happening every week soon until most of the country turns to ash.
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https://twitter.com/stevebousquet/status/1060964919644958720 That's pretty 
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Unfortunately, no. This makes a pretty decent amount of sense because the take-away for a lot of people is probably "The GOP burning Bipartisanship alive and sticking to their principles is why we're in this mess, the Dems doing the same thing will be just as bad, please bring back  "
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Riptor posted:holy hell Paradise Lost edit: I messed up and forgot to embed the tweet but this'll work as is. Toobly fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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Nov 9, 2018 19:50
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marshmonkey posted:Where they hell did they go after abandoning their cars? That's what I want to know. That's like a horror movie right there. Please tell me no one was in that school bus 
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Nov 9, 2018 19:51
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marshmonkey posted:Where they hell did they go after abandoning their cars? They ran for their lives.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:53
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enraged_camel posted:This is the new normal, and it will start happening every week soon until most of the country turns to ash. No, we just need to abandon 100+ year old towns because its just hubris to build a city within 10 miles of a tree. I mean, thats what everyone keeps telling me when they see this poo poo Totally not that we've hosed up the environment
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Nov 9, 2018 19:53
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If Obama got his grand bargain people wouldn't be happy both sides worked together to slash entitlements. People want bipartisanship when it results in something good because the alternative is deadlock as everything slowly gets shittier. Bipartisan as it is used by politicians usually means working together regardless of outcome and acting like the act of cooperation is inherently good. No one is giving credit to the parties for working together to deregulate the banks because they either are against it or don't care. Don't confuse "I want the parties to work together and give me something" with "as long as they work together I am happy regardless of if the result is bad.".
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Florida Pipe Bomber was just indicted. Max penalty is life without parole. He also included art in all of his bomb packages: quote:In the indictment, prosecutors noted that an improvised explosive mailed to former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua, New York, contained a picture of Clinton and members of her family marked with a red “X.”
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But hey, let’s debate whether Pelosi really means it when she promises bipartisanship. Let’s debate the merits of a legal system that has permitted this kind of devastation to happen regularly.
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Nov 9, 2018 19:54
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Radish posted:If Obama got his grand bargain people wouldn't be happy both sides worked together to slash entitlements. People want bipartisanship when it results in something good because the alternative is deadlock as everything slowly gets shittier. Bipartisan as it is used by politicians usually means working together regardless of outcome and acting like the act of cooperation is inherently good. To most people, bipartisanship means that the other party should give into my party's demands. Thats it. Its not a general outpouring of support for centrist policy, its that everyone thinks the other side should come to their senses.
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Thaddius the Large posted:Not to nitpick, but if the point about Mitch denying any bipartisan opportunity is true, wouldn’t voters have therefore punished the Republicans at the polls for the obstructionism? I don’t have a coherent answer, I just don’t see why Democrats have to be bipartisan because voters like it, while Republicans get to be as partisan as they drat well please lest the whole country fall to the gay socialist undocumented immigrant hordes or whatever. because if you internalize the idea that you're not going to be able to compromise with republicans, the system reliant on that assumption is revealed to be fundamentally broken, and the blind veneration of Process that serves as the heart of modern technocratic liberalism dies making GBS threads itself. therefore it is necessary to find The Good Republican (tm) who will finally help liberals Make America Great Again, but, y'know. bipartisanly. i hear good things about this Mitt Romney character.
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what does it even mean when the democrats agree to be bipartisan with republicans? equal opportunity disenfranchisement of the poor?
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