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farraday posted:The article didn't say he lost 22 volunteers, it said 22 volunteers had called to complain, it left unclear how many of those actually refused to volunteer and the same article cites that the Senate ccmpaign had "thousands" of volunteers. So yes demoralizing, but turning that into "everyone left his campaign and he had no gotv and that's why he lost" is lying to yourself and everyone else. 22 people is a lot of god damned people pissed at you. If they're calling to complain, they're probably walking out too. https://twitter.com/DogSolutions/status/1054056284788535297
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galenanorth posted:His crowd discussions in which he declined to say how he would vote may have influenced some of the earlier polls. Tennessee's RealClearPolitics graph shows Bredesen and Blackburn's graphs dramatically diverged, while in other states the graphs remained parallel or converged. All of the movement is on Blackburns side. I'm sorry I literally don't understand how you read this any other way. Simply looking at the margin between the two is pointless.
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https://twitter.com/MarthaMcSally/status/1061082297603022848quote:Martha McSally today released the below statement: Huh. Fair play.]
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Grape posted:Do you know what New England is?
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Ague Proof posted:Trump's going to lash out at her. InsertPotPun posted:Huh. Fair play.] yeah this isn't nearly enough, they want her to pull some Rick Scott poo poo and scream about the Democrats stealing the election
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What kind of a Republican is she?
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paperwind posted:What kind of a Republican is she? :mineinspector:
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Also, there's still rural votes to be counted--maybe she doesn't want a ton of controversy in case she manages to pull ahead again?
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Good for her. Anyway, aren't the chances high that she'll get picked by the Republican governor next year as an interim Senator anyway? https://www.fox4now.com/news/national/democracy-2018/how-both-martha-mcsally-and-kyrsten-sinema-could-both-end-up-as-arizona-s-senators Sorry for the Fox link, but that's the only one I could find that gets into the issue.
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Willa Rogers posted:It wasn't an 11-point deficit when he opened his mouth on Kav: the polls consistently and systematically overrated both mccaskill and donnelly's chances, both of whom voted against kavanaugh i don't see why TN would be any different. you could make a plausible argument that bredesen turned a 4 or 5 point loss into an 11 point one, but he was consistently behind those two even in weighted polling averages and maybe doing a bit better than heitkamp. he was never the strong favorite even before he ran his mouth edit for grammar SousaphoneColossus fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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Condiv posted:this would probably be the best thread to ask about socialism + guns: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3846199 Cheers
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corn in the bible posted:Also, there's still rural votes to be counted--maybe she doesn't want a ton of controversy in case she manages to pull ahead again? maybe. https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1061070671466381312 seems to me, she is probaly a decent person deep down and also knows how bad scott looks. if she loses, people will remember her for not being a nutjob.
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Its smart in a way. If Trump completes the takeover and destruction of democracy, she won't be persecuted. But if he fails, the few Republicans who exhibited anything resembling grace will be instant leaders in the new republican party our media will prop up.
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How far has the US fallen where the lowest acceptable standard of behaviour for a politician in a democracy -- expressing the desire that laws are followed and votes are accurately counted -- is pleasantly surprising when a Republican does it? That's real hosed up.
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PT6A posted:How far has the US fallen where the lowest acceptable standard of behaviour for a politician in a democracy -- expressing the desire that laws are followed and votes are accurately counted -- is pleasantly surprising when a Republican does it? Welcome to hellworld.
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Isn't McSally one of those Republicans who spoke out against Trump and distanced herself from him to draw in the McCain crowd but then did a 180 and started MAGAing it up? Obviously that shows she's a self serving slimeball but it also establishes that at her core she's not actually as crazy or conspiracy ridden as the average MAGA/Fox News viewer so it makes sense she's not getting bogged down in nonsense about how wanting to make sure people's legal votes get counted is "fishy."
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During a primary debate for a senate seat, Whitaker said he would consider blocking Jewish, Muslim, and atheist judges appointed by President Obama. Any non-Christian.Brony Car posted:Good for her. Her chances go down if she can't serve her party by flapping her arms in the air screaming VOTER FRAUD. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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SousaphoneColossus posted:the polls consistently and systematically overrated both mccaskill and donnelly's chances, both of whom voted against kavanaugh He definitely did turn -6 into -11. Dapper_Swindler posted:maybe. She won the primary against a crazy Trumpkin idiot and called her out as such. In a dozen years people like her will mostly be conservative Dems.
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PT6A posted:How far has the US fallen where the lowest acceptable standard of behaviour for a politician in a democracy -- expressing the desire that laws are followed and votes are accurately counted -- is pleasantly surprising when a Republican does it? The Overton window fell off a cliff and shattered
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Tibalt posted:Maine: the muse of Stephen King and H.P. Lovecraft Lovecraft was a Rhode Islander.  And his muse were all the various horrifying white-ethnics moving into southern New England lol.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:maybe. If she's a Republican she's not a decent person. In fact, it's difficult for me to even call a Republican a "person." BigBallChunkyTime fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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paperwind posted:What kind of a Republican is she? One that's going to be a senator regardless of how this election goes. That's the main reason she's not embracing the whole conspiracy angle. It'll ruin her chances of reelection in 2020. Kyl, Arizona's other senator, has no interest in reelection or finishing out his term. He's a warm body picked because he'll go along with whatever McConnell wants. If (or when) McSally loses, it' been speculated that Kyl will step down, Governor Ducey will appoint McSally so she gets the incumbency bonus for 2020. Her embracing the stolen election conspiracy will look incredible goddamned stupid if she's going to be a senator anyway.
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Brony Car posted:Good for her. Yeah, she plays her cards right and doesn’t piss off the people actually IN the state odds are she’s a favorite for the other AZ senate seat in 2020.
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Grape posted:Do you know what New England is? That's unfair because NH is also backwoods too.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:maybe. I think she was the one who blew off healthcare questions last week saying that “they should be talking about things that matter, like the caravan” She’s a nut job.
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Your Taint posted:If she's a Republican she's not a decent person. In fact, it's difficult for me to even call a Republican a "person." Republicans are people. That's the scary part. They live among us, and you can talk to one and not even know right away. *twilight zone music plays*
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Your Taint posted:If she's a Republican she's not a decent person. No, but she's smart enough to know that taking the high road here won't harm her future political prospects. Also, Arizona isn't Florida, despite the volume of old folks moving to both.
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Brony Car posted:Good for her. I really doubt it. A Republican losing a Senate race in Arizona is a career-ender. They will want someone who can win in 2020.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:seems to me, she is probaly a decent person deep down
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farraday posted:Once again, his polling stayed the same, the Republicans rebounded hard. All of this is people putting all their stock into one poll that claimed he had 50% when almost every other poll had him within the normal 2% margin of error for his final tally of 44%. I'm not sure what graph you're looking at, but it sure as poo poo looks to me like his chart drops 2% in early October. It's almost as if he is steady at about 44% all election and then gets a boost up above 46%....but for some odd, unexplainable reason suddenly drops down to 42% in early October. It sure is one giant mystery - it's too bad we can't identify a series of events in late September/early October that would justify an initial burst of support followed by a deflation of enthusiasm. I guess it'll remain one of life's greatest mysteries!
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re: McSally, she literally called Kirsten Sinema a traitor for protesting the Iraq War during the Senatorial debate. Even if she's not a for-real chud (which I can honestly believe based on an interview she gave over Kav where she admitted she had been the victim of sexual assault. I think she only declared support for him via written release, not in front of a microphone at any point) she's 100% sold her soul to chuddism in an effort to gain power. Everything I've heard about her pre-Trump record indicated a reptilian political opportunist of the worst sort.
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Lol, he is being counseled by the Mensch https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/1061094246072094721 what a weird loving world.
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Now that the voting is over have we heard word ONE about the goddam loving caravan? Also, I'm really glad now that I was working late and didn't get to follow the minute to minute Nate Silver debacle with the real time prediction model. gently caress that, just get raw results of races. I probably would have had a stroke. Had a friend texting me saying "Carville saying NO BLUE WAVE" and I'm like, based on WHAT?
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Zwabu posted:Now that the voting is over have we heard word ONE about the goddam loving caravan? No because it was just a fear mongering tool.
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Zwabu posted:Had a friend texting me saying "Carville saying NO BLUE WAVE" and I'm like, based on WHAT? Carville said that early on the night for some dumb reason. The results weren't particularly impressive at that point but it was still ridiculously premature.
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Rigel posted:I really doubt it. A Republican losing a Senate race in Arizona is a career-ender. They will want someone who can win in 2020. Nah, it’d be pretty politically savvy for them to go with McSally to replace Kyl and then have her campaign in 2020 for the seat. She’s your typical “do what it takes” Republican, and definitely polically savvy/smart, but most here locally don’t actually think she likes Trump. It’s just that’s his true base is too stupid to realize/doesn’t care that she’s faking it. Also, Sinema has spent several years now trying to play the part of the centrist; when she first was going for a House seat in 2012, she very much talked about her liberal views and the fact she’s bisexual. Now? Nothing in that regard, and her local radio and tv ads all sold up centrist view points. McSally’s campaign actually put out quite a bit of negative ads about Sinema that McSally openly endorsed, but Sinema actually avoided that, and let outside groups and PACs do the negative attack ads while her ads talked about veteran medical bills, healthcare, etc. She could easily become a slightly better, female version of Manchin. Also, we’re lucky enough to have Sinema in the position she’s in to possibly win as it is, and I’m not sure the local Democratic Party can put anything together or find someone who’d be as good of a counter to McSally as Sinema has been.
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