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Zipperelli. posted:Ok, but for real, bring back the drat Trump thread. It was so much more of an entertaining read. For some, for others, it was completely unreadable yet was pulling in most USPOL posting anyway.
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Dick Trauma posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061171030801158146  You're right, it really does sound like a beer ad. I'd not heard donny talk about the 100th anniversary of armistice and was kinda hoping people had "forgotten" to mention it to him.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:What is even the logic here? "I want this thing fixed right now, so if you don't fix it right now I'm going to make it impossible for you to fix it!" I imagine that it's so he can cut funding, sign over federal land to private owners who will then strip it.
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This thread would be fine if we could just get people to shut the gently caress up about Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer or how to get Dems elected in red states. Pro tip: your opinions on these topics are stupid and wrong and we don't want to hear them.
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I mean gently caress, go on twitter and look at the #campfire hashtag. It is almost nothing but people posting images and names looking for their loved ones in the Paradise area, many of whom very probably burned to death horribly in their homes, or terrifyingly in their cars as they desperately tried to flee. And Trump tweets some stupid bullshit about how California Democrats are managing the forests wrong and how he is so much smarter. gently caress him and gently caress everyone who has ever supported him.
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Blurred posted:This thread would be fine if we could just get people to shut the gently caress up about Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer or how to get Dems elected in red states. Pro tip: your opinions on these topics are stupid and wrong and we don't want to hear them. You don't own the thread, and unfortunately you might have to read opinions you don't like.
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Stereotype posted:I mean gently caress, go on twitter and look at the #campfire hashtag. It is almost nothing but people posting images and names looking for their loved ones in the Paradise area, many of whom very probably burned to death horribly in their homes, or terrifyingly in their cars as they desperately tried to flee. I bet #campfire used to be really fun and chill and involve marshmellows and stuff. This timeline blows. 
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Stereotype posted:Only because of climate change but yeah. US Forest service says humans start them too. Sometimes poo poo infrastructure. ATVs, smoking, tire blowouts, camping, etc all contribute too.
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Nov 10, 2018 11:21
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Blurred posted:This thread would be fine if we could just get people to shut the gently caress up about Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer or how to get Dems elected in red states. Pro tip: your opinions on these topics are stupid and wrong and we don't want to hear them. I don't know if you know this, but Pelosi, Schumer, and Trump are all US Politicians and therefore fall under USPOL. Crazy, I know. Edit: Use the ignore button if you lack the willpower to scroll past posts that offend your delicate sensibilities. Office Pig posted:Donkeybrains is awake. I'm sure cutting funding will in no way negatively affect the ability for the Forestry Service to combat fires. - A very STABLE GENIUS BadOptics fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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Nov 10, 2018 11:27
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Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Shumer are from bright blue states so maybe people should shut the gently caress up about them
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Nov 10, 2018 11:30
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Cable Guy posted:You're right, it really does sound like a beer ad. 
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Nov 10, 2018 11:33
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once all this poo poo is wrapped up and figured out I hope someone can link to the best upbeat, hopeful post/article/rundown of exactly what was accomplished in these midterms because I could absolutely use it for explaining to people I work with, hell even my family, that this was not a "devastating loss that we only took the house" and whatever. Like even my mom, who tends to keep up with the news at least, was confused as to why beto, et al losing wasn't a MASSIVE LOSS, and I had to explain to her(because CNN apparently won't) that the entire reason they were national news is that those were seats that should never have been even remotely competitive, but were within a hairsbreadth of being taken by a democrat, that's how strong the blue wave was. And apparently, this may have changed since wednesday since that's when we talked about it, but I guess they're not really talking about all the "small" victories such as governorships, state houses, judgeships, etc, which wiped out something like 40% of all of the republican gains in the last decade(and a half? I forget) in a single election. Breaking it down for her that way was really helpful. And look at skeletor panic that his surefire voter suppression and attempted rigging and declaring victory then trying to be all NO TAKEBACKSIES plan is failing. there's few government officials more reprehensible(and fuckin' scary looking like seriously someone unlocked the Lament Configuration and that cenobite-lookin' motherfucker popped out, every picture of him grinning looks like it was taken right before he lunged at the cameraman to eat their face) than rick scott and if this whole plan blows up in his stupid skintight skullface this hellworld reality may be getting back on track
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I’ve been waiting for the Armistice Day memorations this year with a blend of dread and anticipation. He’s gonna compare the red poppies with his electoral college map, you just watch.
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Nov 10, 2018 11:41
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Zipperelli. posted:Ok, but for real, bring back the drat Trump thread. It was so much more of an entertaining read. No you are going to read my series of twelve six-paragraph essays on how bad the dems are. Volume one: PELOSIPELOSIPELOSIPELOSIPELOSI....
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Hellblazer187 posted:Socialist Rifle Association Pages ago but it's a real thing, they send you a membership card and some other poo poo and there's a slack for organizing. It's good people. Almost certain the government tracks it and puts your name on a list but if you're on the left and have ever purchased a firearm I'd say the odds are against you not being on a list anyway. Tibalt posted:Colorado Decides, 2020! Soft disagree on the gerrymandering argument. We did pass our ballot initiatives to create independent redistricting commissions and one of the necessary criteria for our new districts come 2020 is that they be competitive, defined as having a real shot at changing parties once every ten years. CO-3 is currently the (blue) city of Pueblo and the (red) entire western half of the state. CO-5 is essentially just El Paso county, if we're counting places where people outnumber livestock. Both of those districts are currently noncompetitive and both will likely be subject to changes once the redistricting commission is done with them; current voter registrations here indicate that so long as Dems can keep turnout up, any congressional race should be winnable.
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eke out posted:haha everyone hates this guy, so long as they are not required to say on the record that they hate him Seriously how is this even possible in a modern supposedly democratic country*. It would be embarrassing for a crappy dictatorship somewhere, just stick some guy who has been nice to you on Twitter in charge of the justice system.  [*NB rhetorical question i kno]
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Agents are GO! posted:No you are going to read my series of twelve six-paragraph essays on how bad the dems are. Volume one: PELOSIPELOSIPELOSIPELOSIPELOSI.... Well you don't have to read it, but nevertheless, there are good reasons why people may not particularly care for Nancy.
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Considering Heineken's history with France (i.e. the Medaille d'Or and Diplome d'Honneurs) this is perfect
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Ardennes posted:Well you don't have to read it, but nevertheless, there are good reasons why people may not particularly care for Nancy.
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mod sassinator posted:Schumer literally hears voices in his head. Get that gently caress out of any position of power. And they aren't even useful voices like "Children shouldn't suffer, Chuck" or "I am angry at the sins on display from the right". He's got little decorum demons constantly going on about "We need more tax breaks for the wealthy. Soon, Chuckieboy, soon those valuable racist votes could turn democrat and the non-whites will accept it if you just won!"
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Ardennes posted:Well you don't have to read it, but nevertheless, there are good reasons why people may not particularly care for Nancy. I understand the argument that we can and should just suck it up and skip/ignore posts we don't like, but I'm also really sympathetic to the argument that criticism of the Ds can rapidly devolve into Sadbrains, :nothingmatters: and/or active discouragement of participation in the political process because of the extreme form of Bothsidesism, and making USPOL the containment thread for that was nice for limiting the psychic pain that comes when that wound gets opened because Nancy Said A Bad. I also never really considered what somebody up the page said about not being an American and wanting to read about Trump without the larger USPOL noise. Trump is an international problem and people all over the world have to deal with him and the fallout from the poo poo he does, but they don't necessarily want to hear people from various ideological gradients litigating domestic electoral strategy. We never got those kinds of posts from, say, UK or Germany or Aus posters in the Trump thread, they stayed in their respective political general threads. I think that distinction could have some merit. But that's just my 2 cents.
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Captain Invictus posted:And they have been extolled breathlessly for like a thousand+ pages in various threads so much so that it pretty much had a moratorium put on it in the trump thread previously because any pelosi news would spark it similar to anything hillary-related sparking 2016-chat. She is going to be majority leader/speaker soon so I don't see it as much of an issue. Moreover, Hillary is not off limits either, this is a free-fire zone. If people want to talk about Trump, then people can talk about Pelosi, Hillary, or FDR. Also, I don't see the conversation bogging down too much either. Sanguinia posted:I understand the argument that we can and should just suck it up and skip/ignore posts we don't like, but I'm also really sympathetic to the argument that criticism of the Ds can rapidly devolve into Sadbrains, :nothingmatters: and/or active discouragement of participation in the political process because of the extreme form of Bothsidesism, and making USPOL the containment thread for that was nice for limiting the psychic pain that comes when that wound gets opened because Nancy Said A Bad. I don't think you can abstract Trump from the rest of American politics, and if anything it is an artificial separation. Posters from other countries probably need to see the fuller picture anyway since the US is a bit hard to figure out unless you grew up there. Also, I don't think "containment" is a good thing especially if it essentially balkanizes the forum up. Obviously, SA/D&D/thread rules are going to be enforced but honestly, the longer this thread is going the more that I am convinced it needs to stay merged. I don't have a problem with people agreeing to disagree, but not seeing the arguement of the other side is something else. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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We're going to take Arizona! Then, we're going to take Florida! Then, Georgia! Then, we're going to go to Washington and take back the White House! https://youtu.be/9j6xm7e5bJo Covok fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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Covok posted:We're going to take Arizona! The memes spawned by the Dean Scream would have propelled him to the presidency just a tiny handful of years later, it's almost tragic.
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Ardennes posted:Also, I don't see the conversation bogging down too much either. Well this is not true and what people are clearly complaining about. The javascript bookmarklet works great at cutting out the demsbad/nothingmatters but obviously at the cost of useful and interesting content. https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1061078165811027968
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Covok posted:We're going to take Arizona! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asMQqJNisCY Just because. I know Howard Dean is Howard Dean, but he did know how to wrangle a crowd.
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knox_harrington posted:Well this is not true and what people are clearly complaining about. The javascript bookmarklet works great at cutting out the demsbad/nothingmatters but obviously at the cost of useful and interesting content. People are complaining, but so far, I really don't see it. Also, it is a little sad that javascript is necessary to reduce interaction with content that you don't agree with, but that is your choice. (Also, that javascript might get you into a little bit of trouble if you aren't seeing full conservations.)
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Ardennes posted:People are complaining, but that doesn't mean they actually have validity to their complaints. Also, it is a little sad that javascript is necessary to reduce interaction with content that you don't agree with, but that is your choice. It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with it, it's about not being interested in it.
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RandomBlue posted:You mean those 10-20 pages when the thread invented bullshit to argue with each other about re: the Tucker Carlson protest? Everyone involved with that deserved every thing they got and more. Pretty much everyone also agreed any action against kids was horrible bullshit that shouldn't happen but you go right ahead with your garbage. Dude, you need to chill Office Pig posted:Donkeybrains is awake. What is his loving obsession with California wildfires?
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Ardennes posted:I don't think you can abstract Trump from the rest of American politics, and if anything it is an artificial separation. Posters from other countries probably need to see the fuller picture anyway since the US is a bit hard to figure out unless you grew up there. Also, I don't think "containment" is a good thing especially if it essentially balkanizes the forum up. That's all fair. Granted, things have not been nearly as bad as I imagined they would be since I saw that the threads were going to be merged. All I can say in opposition is that in the last two years I've been in some mentally dark places, and generally the Trump Thread made it better while USPOL made it worse. DemsBad posts on this forum in my admittedly limited experience can often lead to an infectious level of misery wallowing. I was very happy to have even a soft refuge where I could still talk about the topic at hand and thus work through it on some particularly dark days, rather than feeling compelled to just completely switch off and hope I could process it alone because I knew going into the thread would be mental agony. That said, if the end result is making the "USPOL Content," better instead of making the "Trump Thread," content worse, then it was a good decision for all the reasons you said, and thus far that seems to have been the result for the most part. So I'll quit metaposting now.
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Ardennes posted:Well you don't have to read it, but nevertheless, there are good reasons why people may not particularly care for Nancy. But seriously, the Trump thread was a much better read. Please bring it back.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asMQqJNisCY The man presided over one of the single largest mid-term electoral victories the Democratic Party has ever seen and then the DNC threw out his playbook and got swamped into oblivion in the Obama years. If I was a Democrat, I’d be more inclined to listen to him than anyone else claiming to lead this ramshackle cluster of hooligans.
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Blurred posted:This thread would be fine if we could just get people to shut the gently caress up about Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer or how to get Dems elected in red states. Pro tip: your opinions on these topics are stupid and wrong and we don't want to hear them. it's very weird to think you can discuss trump without discussing how he came about and what we should and shouldn't do to combat the gop. it was silly there ever was a thunderdome thread cordoned off.
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Ardennes posted:People are complaining, but so far, I really don't see it. Also, it is a little sad that javascript is necessary to reduce interaction with content that you don't agree with, but that is your choice. (Also, that javascript might get you into a little bit of trouble if you aren't seeing full conservations.) Nah it's not that at all, just even though I am off work in bed with a broken leg there are still more posts than I can even skim. [NB I do other things than just sit on SA. Honestly!]
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Eox posted:World War 1 was a pointless meat grinder and I wish Trump or his dad were on the banks of the Somme Nah, never happen. The Trumps have a long lineage of avoiding military service.
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Mr Interweb posted:When my man, and personal pick for Republican nominee of 2012, Herman "THE MOTHERLUVIN' CAIN TRAIN" Cain says poo poo's in trouble, you better believe it! bah nana... bah na Na Na NA NAAAAA HERE I AM! ROCK YOU LIKE A HERMANCAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!
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Ardennes posted:She is going to be majority leader/speaker soon so I don't see it as much of an issue. Moreover, Hillary is not off limits either, this is a free-fire zone. If people want to talk about Trump, then people can talk about Pelosi, Hillary, or FDR. We're already not seeing the other side of the argument because we ran off any right wingers years ago. The current ideological divide here is Lenin on the left and Bernie Sanders on the right. It's nowhere near an accurate reflection of the ideological divide in the US, which is fascists vs any non-republican. It was never a sensible divide. Obviously Trump is uspol. It was really "uspol for people who think voting for Democrats, however flawed they may be, is the best way out of this" and "uspol for people who want to yell at that first group" Hellblazer187 fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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Chilichimp posted:bah nana... bah na Na Na NA NAAAAA Lest we forget, the thing that did in Herman Cain was finding out that he had rocked several women that weren’t his wife like a hurricane  ...Remember when sexual assault mattered? Good times.
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nine-gear crow posted:The man presided over one of the single largest mid-term electoral victories the Democratic Party has ever seen and then the DNC threw out his playbook and got swamped into oblivion in the Obama years. If I was a Democrat, I’d be more inclined to listen to him than anyone else claiming to lead this ramshackle cluster of hooligans. Could you imagine if we had kept that kind of intensity through till the '10 midterms and beyond? I know the country was in bad recession, but I just have to think his strategy could have whipped so many more into enthusiasm and movement towards a common goal.
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Lycus posted:Trump is an expert in everything, we should just give him power over everything to usher in utopia. Should be interesting to see everyone get eviction notices when he eventually files bankruptcy on the US
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