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Squalid posted:On this note maybe instead of trying to fit discussion of everything into one thread, it would be better to have many short threads for every recent event. Would anybody here post in a thread just about the Florida recount? If a few people say yes I'll post one this afternoon. I don't think a return to 2007 era D&D is going to go well/happen; most of the threads that haven't achieved some semblance of critical mass get pushed to the wayside. I would suggest posting that stuff in either the new Florida thread or US State/Local.
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:They're just trying to keep the narrative from being that the dems were going to impeach no matter what if they got in. Unless Trump is on film literally sexually assaulting children while waving a sign that says, "I'm Donald J. Trump and I approve of this message" they'll say it's fake news and he'll stay in office.
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Ice Phisherman posted:Unless Trump is on film literally sexually assaulting children while waving a sign that says, "I'm Donald J. Trump and I approve of this message" they'll say it's fake news and he'll stay in office. I think the fifth avenue quote was one of the most honest things Donad Trump has ever said out loud.
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Ice Phisherman posted:Unless Trump is on film literally sexually assaulting children while waving a sign that says, "I'm Donald J. Trump and I approve of this message" they'll say it's fake news and he'll stay in office. Even then I'd have my doubts that they wouldn't just pivot to "actually sexually assaulting children is cool and good."
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I think the fifth avenue quote was one of the most honest things Donad Trump has ever said out loud. I think the Access Hollywood tape is the most honest thing we'll ever hear said by Donald Trump because it was said in a private space with another powerful white man, and the honest truth about Donald Trump is that he is exactly the craven sociopath he appears to be.
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Ice Phisherman posted:Unless Trump is on film literally sexually assaulting children while waving a sign that says, "I'm Donald J. Trump and I approve of this message" they'll say it's fake news and he'll stay in office. They actually were MS-13 gang members so its okay.
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Nov 11, 2018 19:35
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Thalantos posted:Dems slowly slowly have made my life worse. I think you're out of your mind to suggest that staying underground is preferable to actually doing the work of putting yourself front and center and loving marching for equality and rights. Would the civil rights movement been better served by waiting around for the white supremacists to extende UBI, UHC, and a strong social safety net to black folks?
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Nov 11, 2018 19:37
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Party Plane Jones posted:There is now a current affairs/news thread. Enjoy: Thank you PPJ
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Buckwheat Sings posted:This post is more or less how I feel. It's pretty eye opening how 'dems bad' folk never provide an alternative aside from normalizing trump. They just prefer to whine and complain with a nice finale of nothing mattersism. If I want to hear that, I'd just give my grandma a call for an hour or so. lmfao. theyre the only ones offering a solution
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In other news my friends in the Irvine and OC are are rejoicing the defeat of Dana Rohrabacher! The dark warlocks of Irvine grow weaker. Soon we will find and destroy their phylactaries
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What the gently caress are they spending the 200 million on if the soldiers don't have food or shelter? 
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A solution of hiding and doing nothing but posting about trump isnt that bad and dems are just as bad? Neat. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lightning Knight posted:What the gently caress are they spending the 200 million on if the soldiers don't have food or shelter? Graft, 100%.
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Buckwheat Sings posted:A solution of hiding and doing nothing but posting about trump isnt that bad and dems are just as bad? Neat. Well, that's not what happened. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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This story is hilarious because guarantee trump forgot they're deployed
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mcmagic posted:No. Wrong. Relying on politicians to protect you from fascism is a fool's errand. It's the entire society's job. This isn't a spectator sport. If you want things in the country to move in the direction you want, voting is just the beginning. You have to exert pressure on the people you vote for and hold them accountable. Obama DID pass things that were incrementally positive and moved the country in the right direction and his base got lazy, complacent, content and opened the door for fascism. That is just what happened. His base didn't get lazy; they were either stymied at every step or had been hoodwinked into believing he could do no wrong--any policy he backed, no matter how heinous, was part of his strategy to own the GOP. He was urging voters to call their members of Congress to pressure for a public option to be included in the ACA long after he'd made his backroom secret deals with lobbyists to preclude a public option. He didn't lift a finger to put on his "comfortable walking shoes" or help striking public workers in Wisconsin. He convinced voters that his pressuring the Dem House caucus to vote to slash Medicare and Social Security was an okey-doke... even though his top economic advisor was assuring people behind the scenes that Obama had every intention of cutting those programs. He handpicked two deficit hawks as chairs of his austerity commission and he wanted the commission's recs passed by Congress without a procedure to allow amendments. He passed extensions of the Bush tax cuts and the PATRIOT Act with nary a peep from any of his supporters. He also ramped up wars and the military budget. His promises to "shut the revolving door" proved to be a farce. Marilyn Tavenner, who he appointed as head of CMS and who oversaw the implementation of the ACA, left his administration to become chief lobbyist for the health-insurance industry. Numerous activist groups pushed for a stronger Dodd-Frank bill and for writedowns on bad mortgages during the crafting of HAMP. They were uniformly spurned by the party and the administration. His staunchest supporters either made excuses for all these actions or handwaved them as being part of some brilliant political strategy. None of these things could have or would have been changed through voter activism--the public option being the best example of this. To expect voters to have any sort of power to pressure against policies implemented by a government run by the elite and the donor class--and then blame the powerless when they have no voice against the people in power--is the height of disingenuousness, and only solidifies the grip that the elite have on our government. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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VH4Ever posted:YES. Yes yes yes yes yes. As someone living in Missouri, gently caress off with this. I have been very critical of Claire McCaskill, but if you think her losing to Josh Hawley was good you're loving delusional. Yes, I'd rather run a progressive in Missouri but her losing is still a loss.
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 Willa Rogers posted:He didn't lift a finger to put on his "comfortable walking shoes" or help striking public workers in Wisconsin. I was in high school when this happened but as an adult it makes me pretty angry and sad.
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Nov 11, 2018 19:50
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Petr posted:Anyone who uses the word "rigging" without specifying what they mean sounds like a low info Fox news watcher. That could mean anything from "hacking voting machines" to " actually counting everyone who voted." replace that "r" with an "n" and you'll have your answer.
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Willa Rogers posted:His base didn't get lazy; they were either stymied at every step or had been hoodwinked into believing he could do no wrong--any policy he backed, no matter how heinous, was part of his strategy to own the GOP. ty
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Your Parents posted:lmfao. theyre the only ones offering a solution Forgive me if I'm wrong, but is there a post I missed outlining the solution in the last few pages?
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Nov 11, 2018 19:52
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From posting in here, now I know you're not ALL cannibals. consider it a win. 
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I had a thousand new posts and like 10 pages to go through when I woke up this morning so I thought something must have happened. Boy was I loving wrong. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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death panels. https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1061435359547002880
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alpha_destroy posted:As someone living in Missouri, gently caress off with this. I have been very critical of Claire McCaskill, but if you think her losing to Josh Hawley was good you're loving delusional. I mean, near term, sure no argument there. And as a 1 vs the other comparison, yeah, also true. I was agreeing with the overall sentiment though of hopefully the next Dems who run for office in 2020 see what someone who likely would have lost anyway due to an unfavorable map did to make their loss underperform even the unfavorable polling and maybe not do that in their campaigns? And stake out better, less Centrist-mushy positions on issues? I was talking the long game, of shifting the party leftward as a whole.
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don't forget decided pretty much from the get go that he wasn't going to do the needful when it came to the bankers.
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Uhhhhhhh I think I might throw some money Mike Espy's way now. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Nov 11, 2018 |
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jerry seinfel posted:E: wrong thread Lol (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lightning Knight posted:What the gently caress are they spending the 200 million on if the soldiers don't have food or shelter? Paying the companies that make the planes and vehicles to move the troops, and the tent makers, and the barbed wire factories.
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Sounds like they should just house them in local residences. Do it.
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Privatized death panels are more efficient.
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i am harry posted:Paying the companies that make the planes and vehicles to move the troops, and the tent makers, and the barbed wire factories. Also even at low wages, the volume of people there adds up.
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RuanGacho posted:Also even at low wages, the volume of people there adds up. What's the average pay? I'm assuming ~$2000 monthly? That ends up being around $30 million pm.
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Yiggy posted:I wonder what’s going on in us politics. Oh, Dems bad? Well then 
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RuanGacho posted:Also even at low wages, the volume of people there adds up. I suspect that they wouldn't include wages since the soldiers are getting paid regardless. But travel, cheap-rear end housing, and the value of other work they could be doing instead certainly adds up.
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McCaskill losing is not a loving good thing Jesus Christ. Yes because I’m sure the Dems losing their toehold in Missouri and the incumbency advantage in a deep red state will surely lead to a progressive candidate to step up and take her place.
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