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I don't know what Montana Dems are doing right, but other red state Democratic parties should be doing whatever they're doing.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:33
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Ague Proof posted:The current governor Steve Bullock is a term-limited Democrat whose terms ends in 2020, so he should be drafted. There's also another former governor named Brian Schweitzer who won twice. Wasnt Schwietzer really popular? I remember him being bandied around as a presidential hopeful in the pre Obama days.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:33
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I've learned a lot about Montana since Trump got elected and it seems impossible cool and good for such a rural state. Why does it suck so much less than every other lovely wasteland like Idaho or the Dakotas?
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Nov 9, 2018 20:34
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Pakled posted:I don't know what Montana Dems are doing right, but other red state Democratic parties should be doing whatever they're doing. Tester was  because he beat the POTUS, the Vice President, and Donald Jr. It was cathartic.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:36
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Ague Proof posted:Tester was We need a version of with a brush cut and it could basically be :tester:.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:37
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Because I was curious, here is the list of every interesting state race that will happen in 2019. It's, uh, not the most interesting list. quote:Kentucky: One-term Republican Matt Bevin is seeking re-election. Declared Democratic candidates include Attorney General Andy Beshear, with former state auditor Adam Edelen, Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes and House Minority Leader Rocky Adkins among potential candidates.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:38
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evilweasel posted:Because I was curious, here is the list of every interesting state race that will happen in 2019. It's, uh, not the most interesting list. Virginia will be interesting---dems could actually capture the state leg.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:39
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OAquinas posted:Virginia will be interesting---dems could actually capture the state leg. Yeah that matters, and each of the governor elections kinda matters even if they're all red states for the possibility of a Democrat taking/keeping the seat and being able to veto gerrymanders. But it would not surprise me to find out each of those three states with governor elections has a Republican supermajority that can force a gerrymander through a veto.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:41
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OAquinas posted:Virginia will be interesting---dems could actually capture the state leg. Incidentally, the last time Virginia had a Democratic trifecta was under Governor Wilder, who left office in 1994. Since then, at least one chamber of the legislature (and almost always both) or the governorship have been held by Republicans. Considering how different the Virginia Democratic Party of the early 1990s was-- and, indeed, how different the Virginia of the early 1990s was-- I almost can't imagine what a huge difference that would make in the state.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:48
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evilweasel posted:Because I was curious, here is the list of every interesting state race that will happen in 2019. It's, uh, not the most interesting list. I will always remember Alison Lundergan Grimes because of the "What rhymes with Alison Lundergan Grimes?" ads Mitch ran in 2014. I'm not sure if making your opponent more memorable than you is a good idea, but by god Mitch did it. Quorum posted:Incidentally, the last time Virginia had a Democratic trifecta was under Governor Wilder, who left office in 1994. Since then, at least one chamber of the legislature (and almost always both) or the governorship have been held by Republicans. Considering how different the Virginia Democratic Party of the early 1990s was-- and, indeed, how different the Virginia of the early 1990s was-- I almost can't imagine what a huge difference that would make in the state. Because of 2017 the map in VA from 2020 forward will at bare minimum at least be fair. If we take back the House of Delegates + State Senate we can do a Dem gerrymander, legalize weed and a bunch of other things we should've done like 4 years ago but couldn't because of how gerrymandered the state is.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:58
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axeil posted:I will always remember Alison Lundergan Grimes because of the "What rhymes with Alison Lundergan Grimes?" ads Mitch ran in 2014. That's a risky strategy when your name includes Mitch and 'con'.
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Nov 9, 2018 20:59
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Quorum posted:Incidentally, the last time Virginia had a Democratic trifecta was under Governor Wilder, who left office in 1994. Since then, at least one chamber of the legislature (and almost always both) or the governorship have been held by Republicans. Considering how different the Virginia Democratic Party of the early 1990s was-- and, indeed, how different the Virginia of the early 1990s was-- I almost can't imagine what a huge difference that would make in the state. Living in the DC Metro area and seeing how fast Northern Virginia has changed over the last twenty years has been completely nuts. I still can't get over how people commute from places such as Warrenton into DC. As I stated earlier, VA going from solidly red, to swing state, to solid blue in 20 years is just..I don't have a word for it.  As recently as 2004 Virginia went Republican and voted for Bush! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2004
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Nov 9, 2018 21:02
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evilweasel posted:Yeah that matters, and each of the governor elections kinda matters even if they're all red states for the possibility of a Democrat taking/keeping the seat and being able to veto gerrymanders. But it would not surprise me to find out each of those three states with governor elections has a Republican supermajority that can force a gerrymander through a veto. Kentucky has a supermajority in both chambers (27 R to 11 D in the Senate; 63 R to 36 D in the General Assembly). Maybe McGrath's narrowing of the vote to a coin flip matters here? It could be possible that a Democratic wave could be coming at the local level, but I obviously don't know since I don't live there Louisiana has a supermajority in both chambers (60 R/41 D/3 independents in the legislature; 25 R to 14 D in the Senate). I dunno what can be done here, maybe Louisiana goons can fill in the blanks here? Missisippi has a supermajority in both chambers (33 R to 19 D in the senate; 72 R to 48 D in the legislature). Same thing with Louisiana, as it seems that the Republican majorities are increasing with each election. How do you peel away/disencourage turnout on the Republican side to at least get rid of a supermajority overriding a Dam veto? I think this is the critical question to ask in deep red states, and the answer changes from state to state too.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:04
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Solaris 2.0 posted:Living in the DC Metro area and seeing how fast Northern Virginia has changed over the last twenty years has been completely nuts. Hell, I know a fair number of people indirectly who commute from Richmond just for the combo lower cost of living and higher quality of life. Most of them have an irregular work schedule and some number of work-from-home days, though.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:07
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Carlosologist posted:Kentucky has a supermajority in both chambers (27 R to 11 D in the Senate; 63 R to 36 D in the General Assembly). Maybe McGrath's narrowing of the vote to a coin flip matters here? It could be possible that a Democratic wave could be coming at the local level, but I obviously don't know since I don't live there You run hard on the economic stuff that people actually like, while trying to avoid nationalizing the race (the goal being, pump up your enthusiasm without giving Republicans a chance to pump up theirs). You're obviously not gonna flip any of these, but you could hope to swing just enough to break supermajority. Basically, hope hard that the 2017/2018 democratic enthusiasm boost stays big, while hoping that republicans cannot replicate their 2018 enthusiasm boost they got by nationalizing the various races (so you get a big enthusiasm gap, instead of generally high enthusiasm, so you can win without needing to sway voters and you can also hope that the suburbs continue their trend to D)
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Nov 9, 2018 21:12
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Wait wait wait. Mississippi has a Democratic attorney general? Like a Democrat can win a statewide election in Mississippi, or is there some obscure 1870s-era clause in the Mississippi constitution that says the AG has to be a Democrat
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Nov 9, 2018 21:45
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VitalSigns posted:Wait wait wait. Funny you should mention the 1870's, because every Atty General in Mississippi since 1878 has been a Democrat.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:48
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VitalSigns posted:Wait wait wait. Looks like he was elected in 2003, which is before the wipeout of state-level democrats in the deep south was completed, and has managed to hang on via incumbency. He's the only statewide elected Democrat in the entire state.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:50
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VitalSigns posted:Wait wait wait. Wanna here something else amazing? Mississippi has the highest child vaccination rate in the country, or it did a few years ago.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:54
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I'm increasingly convinced my county democratic apparatus is a facebook bot whose creator has died or something. It posts things but never responds to questions and the events I've tried to attend have not actually existed at the listed location. Our candidate for congress who was trying to unseat Greg Walden made a campaign stop directly across the street from me and they didn't even mention it until the day after. I feel like I should figure out who runs the thing and rub their nose in the map of Oregon with the entire east half red like THIS IS loving WHY
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Nov 9, 2018 22:00
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Quorum posted:Hell, I know a fair number of people indirectly who commute from Richmond just for the combo lower cost of living and higher quality of life. Most of them have an irregular work schedule and some number of work-from-home days, though. thats like a 4 hour drive if im remembering my geography right, gently caress that lol
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Nov 9, 2018 22:50
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Meme Emulator posted:Wasnt Schwietzer really popular? I remember him being bandied around as a presidential hopeful in the pre Obama days. he had a really dumb interview a few years ago where he made gaffe after gaffe iirc, it pretty much sunk him as a national candidate but i could foresee him coming back for a senate run though he did say that he hated DC and preferred living in Montana, and i have no reason not to believe he's telling the truth
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Nov 9, 2018 23:03
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Pakled posted:I don't know what Montana Dems are doing right, but other red state Democratic parties should be doing whatever they're doing. Tester campaigns super-locally as a dusty cowboy don't care much for those high-falootin Washington types which is basically the same thing that a lot of GOP rural reps do except he uses his power for good. Rural areas are very winnable for Democrats you just can't run the kind of person you'd run in NY or California. All politics are local and Tester exemplifies that. That being said, Montana is anchored by Missoula and Bozeman which are 2 heavily Democratic college towns and its they who drove Tester to victory.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:17
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SousaphoneColossus posted:he had a really dumb interview a few years ago where he made gaffe after gaffe iirc, it pretty much sunk him as a national candidate but i could foresee him coming back for a senate run Why not? That's the kind of "I'm no typical Washington politician" line you'd say to get elected in Montana.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:24
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Ague Proof posted:Why not? That's the kind of "I'm no typical Washington politician" line you'd say to get elected in Montana. i mean it could be bullshit but he said it in response to why he wasn't running for the senate in that cycle, and he might genuinely not want to have to live in DC eta: here's the wikipedia summary of Schweitzer shooting himself in the foot and then sticking it in his mouth: quote:He is known for his unfiltered talk and being prone to gaffes. In a June 2014 interview with the National Journal, he made headlines for controversial comments deemed offensive to Democrats, Republicans, women, Southerners and gays. In the interview, he referred to Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein as a prostitute, saying: "She was the woman who was standing under the streetlight with her dress pulled all the way up over her knees, and now she says, 'I'm a nun', when it comes to this spying!" He said that outgoing House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, married 25 years and father of three, set off his gaydar because southern men have effeminate mannerisms.[72] Schweitzer apologized via Facebook on June 18, 2014, stating: "I recently made a number of stupid and insensitive remarks to a reporter from the National Journal. I am deeply sorry and sincerely apologize for my carelessness and disregard."
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Nov 9, 2018 23:52
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Lightning Knight posted:I went to my local Democratic Party meeting tonight and they had leadership elections. I was with the president of the college Democrats, our professor advisor, and one other member. Ah, inter-party politics. 
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Nov 10, 2018 00:02
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Grapplejack posted:Ah, inter-party politics.  But hey, that lady who won that seat? She's really cool! She's from Peru. I'm excited for her. 
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Nov 10, 2018 00:12
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The Glumslinger posted:Michigan Gary Peters is a good dude. He was my congressman before he was elected to the Senate and in 2012 I got to meet him. My wife had an internship in DC for Grad School and I took care of 18 month old N+1th Doctor all day. One of my goals was to introduce her to as many of her elected representatives as possible, and Gary Peters was the first. He and I had a nice chat about spaceflight. He sat on the house science committee during his first term and had ISS-flown memorabilia hanging in his office. His office also bent over backwards for me at various points though the summer including giving me a privately guided tour of the Capitol building and passes for the House gallery on the day that he was fighting a do-or-die primary against fellow Democratic congressman Hansen Clarke due to Republican redistricting bullshit (that will now be undone, thanks Proposal 2!) As a Senator, I've watched him be reliably on the left and he's participated in calling out Trump/Republican chicanery. Also: dude is a Dem who managed to get elected to the Senate in 2014 with 54.6% of the vote while noted city poisoner Rick Snyder was being reelected Governor. E: of note, Peters was the only Democrat newly elected to the Senate in 2014. Every other Democrat going to the Senate from that election was an incumbent. Nth Doctor fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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Nov 10, 2018 02:44
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. He managed to win in Michigan during the 2014 wave, so he must be doing something right. Voted for ACA, Cap and Trade, and DREAM Act while in the House. Wikipedia says he support Occupy Wall Street and that Liz Warren campaigned for him in 2014. Seems like a decent bloke, hopefully Michigan can stay sane and reelect him.
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Peters also voted for the banking deregulation bill earlier this year.
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Nov 10, 2018 03:46
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Ego-bot posted:Peters also voted for the banking deregulation bill earlier this year. Well, gently caress.
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Nov 10, 2018 06:05
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Question for any Ohio goons, particularly ones from the Balderson/O'Connor matchup. I know we went red on Tuesday, but was it because O'Connor wasn't left enough? I felt like every ad I saw for Balderson pushed the normal "O'Connor is progressive and that is bad" stuff, but I kept seeing O'Connor with ads touting how he'd look for bipartisan solutions and work with Trump. My whole household voted straight Dem but seeing those ads really soured us. I'm curious of anyone else's thoughts.
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Nov 10, 2018 22:31
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axeil posted:I will always remember Alison Lundergan Grimes because of the "What rhymes with Alison Lundergan Grimes?" ads Mitch ran in 2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euVkDbQz144 edit: okay I forgot the part where they used the clip of her saying "Democratic values, d-d-d-d-d-Democratic values", which made me laugh out loud again so I guess I'm not that mad 
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Nov 11, 2018 06:15
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So with Wexton winning that means VA is gonna havd a special election. Any goons wanting to put their boots on the ground should report to Your Boy Fancy's inbox for marching orders.
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Nov 12, 2018 00:43
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How relevant is flipping AZ's Secretary of State? https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1061771926211907584 cause like, I can believe everything from "actually one hundred percent irrelevant" to "means that the 2020 election sure is gonna be a lot more competitive for quote reasons unquote"
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Nov 12, 2018 05:18
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DACK FAYDEN posted:How relevant is flipping AZ's Secretary of State? There was some real goofiness with signature collection before the primaries, stuff like signatures being lost or Republican signatures being held off to the last minute to minimize the amount of time that they could be legally challenged. I think the biggest impact will be in 2022, where there'll potentially be two high-profile Democrats in position to challenge Ducey.
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Nov 12, 2018 05:31
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DACK FAYDEN posted:How relevant is flipping AZ's Secretary of State? Seeing all the Georgia fuckery with Kemp, I'd say the fewer Republicans in any position to interfere with elections, the better. Also, should the title of the thread be renamed to US State and Local 2018*: We're not done yet?
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Nov 12, 2018 05:31
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DACK FAYDEN posted:How relevant is flipping AZ's Secretary of State? Holy poo poo. I have no idea how relevant it is, but  drat.E: wait, that reaction is contingent on that being the absolute final count, if it's still ongoing then still good but not as .
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Nov 12, 2018 05:33
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Lprsti99 posted:Holy poo poo. I have no idea how relevant it is, but It's a 424 vote margin, 162,000 votes left to count. It's no sure thing, but depending on the method used to count the votes, (e.g, if they're all in a big pile and have been counted randomly, or if they've been going one precinct at a time) the trajectory indicates the office is going blue.
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Nov 12, 2018 05:49
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Okay, yeah, overreaction. Encouraging, though!
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Nov 12, 2018 05:58
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SoS oversees balloting, IIRC. Given that the R is a chud who wants to remove Spanish language from the ballots and would probably take cues from Kemp, the Dem pulling it out would definitely mean a more receptive/playable AZ for 2020 and 2022. Given how Ohio has turned out, this could be crucial for electoral politics. Still waaay too early to tell though.
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Nov 12, 2018 07:51
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