2021: Linux on the desktop, Free Software 9/11

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware/Software Crap > YOSPOS > 2021: Linux on the desktop, Free Software 9/11

«‹›351 »

Scott Forstall: Aug 16, 2003; MMM THAT FAUX LEATHER

if they don�t release on steam/GOG then gently caress off

# ? Nov 11, 2018 21:02

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? Jun 4, 2024 22:30

pram: Jun 10, 2001

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

they posted a presentation explaining the acquisitions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfaN267lI_Y

my fav

# ? Nov 12, 2018 01:37

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

It baffles me that, in 2018, Outlook still doesn't make a desktop folder to keep opened files in rather than putting them in a six-deep hidden folder somewhere in AppData?

Like, ok: email shouldn't be used as a file transfer or a versioning system but it's used that way just about everywhere I've seen or heard about?

E: Same thing with the nicknames file (.nk2?), now that I think of it. IIRC that's where autocomplete gets stored which, for most users, is the only address book they have. Why is this not kept somewhere more permanent?

EE: Like, it's been a fair few years since I've done direct support of MS Office users (although with my luck my next lovely job will be this :sigh:

) but this was a constant source of a high single-digit percentage of calls. And it's completely unintuitive and broken and it's just never been fixed.

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Nov 12, 2018

# ? Nov 12, 2018 02:42

President Beep: Apr 30, 2009; i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

i like how in outlook the address book and contacts are two different things. good poo poo NOT!

# ? Nov 12, 2018 02:47

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Schadenboner posted:

E: Same thing with the nicknames file (.nk2?), now that I think of it. IIRC that's where autocomplete gets stored which, for most users, is the only address book they have. Why is this not kept somewhere more permanent?

EE: Like, it's been a fair few years since I've done direct support of MS Office users (although with my luck my next lovely job will be this ) but this was a constant source of a high single-digit percentage of calls. And it's completely unintuitive and broken and it's just never been fixed.

uh what? it's stored in your exchange mailbox and has been for the last three versions

if you're not using exchange, why the gently caress are you using outlook?

# ? Nov 12, 2018 02:50

mystes: May 31, 2006

Schadenboner posted:

It baffles me that, in 2018, Outlook still doesn't make a desktop folder to keep opened files in rather than putting them in a six-deep hidden folder somewhere in AppData?

Like, ok: email shouldn't be used as a file transfer or a versioning system but it's used that way just about everywhere I've seen or heard about?

E: Same thing with the nicknames file, now that I think of it. IIRC that's where autocomplete gets stored which, for most users, is the only address book they have. Why is this not kept somewhere more permanent?

The appdata thing is mildly annoying, but Outlook also allows you to irrecoverably modify attachments to your copy of emails you've received depending on where you open them from in outlook which is totally insane.

Edit: Basically to avoid all this weirdness I always just drag attachments to a folder rather than open them directly in outlook.

mystes fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Nov 12, 2018

# ? Nov 12, 2018 02:50

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

infernal machines posted:

uh what? it's stored in your exchange mailbox and has been for the last three versions

if you're not using exchange, why the gently caress are you using outlook?

The nk2 thing got fixed?

# ? Nov 12, 2018 02:53

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

nk2 files were last used in office 2010, in conjunction with the autocomplete stream in exchange. you can still manually import them in the newer versions, but the autocomplete cache is part of your online mailbox now. also everyone you send a message to that isn't in your contacts gets added to "suggested contacts" afaik

# ? Nov 12, 2018 02:56

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

infernal machines posted:

nk2 files were last used in office 2010, in conjunction with the autocomplete stream in exchange. you can still manually import them in the newer versions, but the autocomplete cache is part of your online mailbox now. also everyone you send a message to that isn't in your contacts gets added to "suggested contacts" afaik

Ah, that would have been about when I stopped directly supporting (not in 2010: none of our nursing homes were upgraded past 07 by 2015 when I last supported Office)?

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Nov 12, 2018

# ? Nov 12, 2018 02:59

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

tbh it was still broken as gently caress in 2010 and 2013, outlook still used a local cache file (it just wasn't an nk2 file any more) and there's a good chance of it never syncing to your mailbox. but in theory it works. i've never seen it fail in 2016, and no one has 2019 yet, so who knows.

# ? Nov 12, 2018 03:02

Schadenboner: Aug 15, 2011; by Shine

Now that O365 (or %CLOUD_HOSTED_EXCHANGE% at least) has become the cheap option as well as the good option, a whole generation of techs will be spared the cock-hardening joy of troubleshooting Exchange 2003 in 2014.

# ? Nov 12, 2018 03:05

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

it's still rickety as gently caress because outlook is made by clowns, but at least now there's nothing you can do to fix it

:yayclod:

# ? Nov 12, 2018 03:11

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

infernal machines posted:

it's still rickety as gently caress because outlook is made by clowns, but at least now there's nothing you can do to fix it

this is the key benefit of cloud. poo poo i can't do nothing about is poo poo i can't work late doing nothing about

# ? Nov 12, 2018 03:40

r u ready to WALK: Sep 29, 2001

My favorite thing about outlook is how every IT department would shoot themselves in the foot by enforcing a tiny mailbox quota in exchange and encourage users to stick .PST files on networked home directories.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-hk/help/297019/limits-to-using-personal-folders-pst-files-over-lan-and-wan-links

oops

# ? Nov 12, 2018 08:09

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

is there a way to hide the read receipt avatars in skype. it's super loving annoying having the messages in the chat window keep shifting around as the small avatars move down the chat history. constant small movements in the corner of my eye.

all i can find on google is disabling my own read receipts and i don't really care about that, i don't want to see other people's read receipts.

# ? Nov 12, 2018 08:58

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

just make everybody else disable their receipts op

# ? Nov 12, 2018 13:32

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG: Mar 2, 2005

r u ready to WALK posted:

My favorite thing about outlook is how every IT department would shoot themselves in the foot by enforcing a tiny mailbox quota in exchange and encourage users to stick .PST files on networked home directories.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-hk/help/297019/limits-to-using-personal-folders-pst-files-over-lan-and-wan-links

oops

turning on the gpo to prevent creation of pst files is the greatest thing

# ? Nov 12, 2018 16:03

smellmycheese: Feb 1, 2016

I�m currently working for somewhere that insists on using Dropbox and Word Online, and I have to congratulate Microsoft on managing to make the lightweight, simplified online version of Word even more intensely lovely than the offline one. Its quite impressive really

# ? Nov 12, 2018 17:12

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

why would they not just toss it on onedrive and use the full application? word online seems mostly fine, but an employer just locking you down to that seems monumentally stupid

# ? Nov 12, 2018 17:28

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

smellmycheese posted:

I�m currently working for somewhere that insists on using Dropbox and Word Online, and I have to congratulate Microsoft on managing to make the lightweight, simplified online version of Word even more intensely lovely than the offline one. Its quite impressive really

um, yeah if you intentionally try to ice skate uphill things will be difficult. word online is 100% integrated with onedrive for reasons you can probably imagine, so either stop using word online, or use onedrive because otherwise you're just going to keep hammering your balls for no reason.

# ? Nov 12, 2018 17:30

orange sky: May 7, 2007

Is Joe Belfiore the worst human on earth yn

# ? Nov 12, 2018 17:39

orange sky: May 7, 2007

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

why would they not just toss it on onedrive and use the full application? word online seems mostly fine, but an employer just locking you down to that seems monumentally stupid

Probably only an E1 license

# ? Nov 12, 2018 17:39

skimothy milkerson: Nov 19, 2006

infernal machines posted:

um, yeah if you intentionally try to ice skate uphill things will be difficult. word online is 100% integrated with onedrive for reasons you can probably imagine, so either stop using word online, or use onedrive because otherwise you're just going to keep hammering your balls for no reason.

don�t kinkshame

# ? Nov 12, 2018 17:45

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

orange sky posted:

Probably only an E1 license

that doesn't really answer the question though, since saving $12 a month while making workers slower and more miserable is also monumentally stupid

# ? Nov 12, 2018 17:52

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

it's probably more of a "we already use dropbox and everything is on dropbox and the execs have finally puzzled out how to use dropbox" thing. which is reasonable, but then don't expect it to work with a competitor's cloud enabled product, because it ain't gonna and that's just technical debt you need to deal with

# ? Nov 12, 2018 18:12

mystes: May 31, 2006

BIGFOOT EROTICA posted:

turning on the gpo to prevent creation of pst files is the greatest thing

Can you actually prevent pst files from being created or just disable the UI for it?

# ? Nov 12, 2018 18:29

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

# ? Nov 12, 2018 20:06

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.