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Honestly, the IJN should really consider adding rams to the front of their ships and trying for boarding actions. Turn the American production capability against them 
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Honestly, the IJN should really consider adding rams to the front of their ships and trying for boarding actions. Turn the American production capability against them All swords, all the time. "Sail us closer, I want to hit them with my katana!"
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Imagine the lessons naval designers are getting from these battles. "By removing the useless scout planes and anti aircraft guns, we saved enough weight to incorporate bayonets on the 18inch guns. Now we are prepared if the US throws waves of useless landing craft at us again."
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cannonfodder43 posted:Imagine the lessons naval designers are getting from these battles. If we replace the entire gun can we get a 200' spear on an 18" gun turret? In the arts of the past the IJN will find victory.
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Like where in the goddamn hell is the Heavy fleet? Just sailing a goddamn convoy of sitting ducks around with no heavy gun or anti-ship support? And the AI doesn't even have the excuse of being tricked to chase after empty flat tops!
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MA-Horus posted:Like where in the goddamn hell is the Heavy fleet? Just sailing a goddamn convoy of sitting ducks around with no heavy gun or anti-ship support? The cruiser night time raid made them afraid to leave port.
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I have been refreshing this thread all day to see the follow-up fleet actuons. My balls are so blue for battleship hatefucks with carriers
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Nov 13, 2018 03:22
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The Cruisers got in a knifefight with Battleships that ended with the Maryland getting two torpedos. A British/French fleet was bombarding Truk that got the Richelieu mauled by surface batteries (also words I cannot believe have been said literlaly)
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Nov 13, 2018 05:37
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The one thing WitP:AE does very well is fight Guadacanal over and over again.
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   Got you, you fucker!   We strike their carriers, but the Bettys bug out when they see fighters – and rightly so!   A quieter day – a few hundred bombing runs on empty bases, but nothing different from the norm!  More morale boosting reports. Nothing more.
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Nov 13, 2018 06:11
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What an anticlimactic denouement
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Nov 13, 2018 06:31
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Aww, I was hoping for slaughter. Did the BB's and Cruisers get into anything?
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wedgekree posted:Aww, I was hoping for slaughter. Did the BB's and Cruisers get into anything? nope, I would have reported it if they had. We have an interesting week ahead though!
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Nov 13, 2018 09:34
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Yay! Looking forwards to th enext week then. ... Rabaul falls into th sea and sinks doesn't it
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Nov 13, 2018 09:51
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Tokyo Bay Fortress devours Rabaul.
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Nov 13, 2018 11:26
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The british drive from Burma to Borneo in a single day.
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Chinese break out from whatever the gently caress it's called again in an unstoppable Tsunami of implacable RAEG, march to the sea
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Grey accidentally moves Manchukuo Garrison force and Soviets start "Operation Red October" a week late.
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Nov 13, 2018 15:15
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Grey loses his battleship force to amassed Allied battleship fleet.
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Nov 13, 2018 15:28
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The battleships, blinded by the thrill of the hunt, sink all the carriers. In the Kido Butai
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IJA lands in Vancouver while everyone else is distracted near Rabaul.
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12 November 1944 Tirpitz capsizes at Tromsö after taking three six-ton Tallboy bombs. At the southern end of Norway, a British cruiser force mauls a German convoy, sinking the minesweepers M-416 and M-427 along with a pair of transports and armed trawlers.
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OpenlyEvilJello posted:12 November 1944 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axo1XNjB4Qs
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   Still bombing!  And still hunting!  I noticed the allies AV at Truk has dropped a bit – they may be low on supplies, so I'm ordering an attack there. Terrain will make it fail, but I have to try!
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MA-Horus posted:Like where in the goddamn hell is the Heavy fleet? Just sailing a goddamn convoy of sitting ducks around with no heavy gun or anti-ship support? The World Wonders...
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I don't know grognard games that well or WitP well at all, but is there a reason Grey has been able to engage carrier groups with Battleships as often as he has without the same result as the Japanese had in the pacific war? Or is the AI just bad?
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Horsebanger posted:I don't know grognard games that well or WitP well at all, but is there a reason Grey has been able to engage carrier groups with Battleships as often as he has without the same result as the Japanese had in the pacific war? A fair bit of the latter, but it also just seems to be due to the way the game is coded. Basically, I'm going to point out that there are multiple instances of Grey's carriers also running into an Allied heavy surface fleet. Or, if I'm recalling correctly, other even more ridiculous instances of two CV groups running into each other. On open ocean.
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13 November 1944 Another carrier sweep picks off the light cruiser Kiso and four more destroyers—Akebono, Akishimo, Okinami, and Hatsuharu—in Manila Bay along with seven more transports and heavy damage to harbor facilities.
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Nov 14, 2018 09:08
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i got my copy of shattered sword, per thread recommendation. ive only gotten to chapter 2 but its a pretty engaging read, so far.
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Horsebanger posted:I don't know grognard games that well or WitP well at all, but is there a reason Grey has been able to engage carrier groups with Battleships as often as he has without the same result as the Japanese had in the pacific war? The AI is brain-dead. In the mildly saner world of player vesus player PBEM matches the entire game is played a lot closer to how the Pacific war actually went down with every operation hinging on where both players have or don't have their carriers. There should ideally be a ton of screening forces and generous use of subs and air search to find out what the enemy presence is like in an area before ever committing the CVs but as I understand it those nuances are a bit beyond the AI.
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The AI also has a bad habit of sending out its forces in penny packets, which are then overwhelmed either by the battleship squadron or the Kido Butai (which at this point is truly massive and would be hard for the US to beat even if they were sending out full sized fleets). I don't think we've seen more than 3 CVs ever working together at once, nor more than 3 BBs in a task force. And none of them ever have the type of escorts you'd expect for that type of important task force.
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I thought i'd pop in and see if there is any interest in a WITP LP along the style of Yooper's CMANO LP's where Goons control one (or maybe two if I could figure out exactly how to work it) sides of a limited scale scenario (Guadalcanal probably). I think it could work out and might be fun for people to dip their toes into WITP without having to worry about the minutiae of playing it.
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Clearly separate groups of goons control the IJN and IJA while some third party runs USA Each side can make one request of the other each day.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Clearly separate groups of goons control the IJN and IJA while some third party runs USA This is definitely the best way to do a WITP LP. You could even make the Americans AI to reduce the workload on you.
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Nov 14, 2018 19:30
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Yeah and make it adversarial, with IJN and IJA having different goals.
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Nov 14, 2018 19:50
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Let Grey control His Majesty's navy.
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If the Allies end up being played by humans, the first two years of the war should feature different players handling the Americans, British, Dutch, and Australians to replicate the problems of commanding the ABDA.
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Also Saros has to enter the orders and write the posts while completely psychotic on datura and benzene
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aphid_licker posted:Yeah and make it adversarial, with IJN and IJA having different goals. I was thinking that you do loss points vs inflicted loss points for each branch, ignoring base points since ija gets most of those. Run it until like 43. Compare net scores for winner. I have no idea how difficult this is.
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I wouldn't run a grand campaign I'm not insane. One of the smaller scenarios with lots of back and forth like Guadalcanal.
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