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Might start sounding like a broken record. But this episode was great. "Hey, why do you sound exasperated?!"
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Nov 12, 2018 19:07
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I certainly forgot how dark Shizu's backstory got.
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Nov 12, 2018 19:39
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I want to see Leon get his pretty face wrecked in by Rimuru later. gently caress that guy.
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Nov 12, 2018 19:51
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I love Rimuru's little panic moment when he gets engulfed by that fire tornado. Even he's underestimating how freaking OP he is. Now I just hope we get to see him beat the ever loving poo poo out of the blond bastard who summoned Shizu and had Ifrit possess her in the first place.
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Nov 12, 2018 22:38
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Turns out wishing to be neither hot nor cold is kinda broken when your opponent's sole attack is "making you hot". God that whole sequence with what I can only presume is another summoned child and Pizu 
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Nov 12, 2018 23:11
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Can't wait for Leon to smug it up and get deleted Next episode, "inherited will". I guess we finally get blue slimegirl mode?
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Nov 12, 2018 23:23
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Alfredo Jones posted:I love Rimuru's little panic moment when he gets engulfed by that fire tornado. Even he's underestimating how freaking OP he is. Now I just hope we get to see him beat the ever loving poo poo out of the blond bastard who summoned Shizu and had Ifrit possess her in the first place. It's less that he's OP, and more that he's enough of a cockroach and makes enough friends that he can leverage his super exposition power to find a way of winning. I kind of like it over the "Protagonist wipes out the villains with a wave of their hand the moment they feel like they can win."
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Nov 12, 2018 23:29
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... jeez, that thing with Pizu. I was expecting half of it but uhhhhhhh I thought just the little fox would die, not the girl too. yikes!! Poor Shizu.  I hope Rimuru can help her.Edit: Wait, I feel like an idiot, did Shizu die? is she dead. The next episode title has me worried ... A Tin Of Beans fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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Nov 12, 2018 23:58
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Alectai posted:It's less that he's OP, and more that he's enough of a cockroach and makes enough friends that he can leverage his super exposition power to find a way of winning. I kind of like it over the "Protagonist wipes out the villains with a wave of their hand the moment they feel like they can win." rather than other isekais it's more jojo as gently caress
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Nov 13, 2018 00:10
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That got pretty dark with the broiled pokemon and trainer
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Nov 13, 2018 00:28
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A Tin Of Beans posted:Edit: Wait, I feel like an idiot, did Shizu die? is she dead. The next episode title has me worried ...
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Nov 13, 2018 01:15
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Huh, I don't know about the LN, but compared to the manga this episode was about a million times better at handling Shizu characterization and backstory.
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Nov 13, 2018 02:32
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Skippy McPants posted:Huh, I don't know about the LN, but compared to the manga this episode was about a million times better at handling Shizu characterization and backstory. The LN has the Pizu stuff, I dunno why the manga really skipped it
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Nov 13, 2018 02:37
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I'd say it's mostly better than the LN, since that took a few chapters spread out in the first volume, interrupting the flow of things a bit. But there's one thing they haven't covered yet that's really important that I only really understood on reading the LN, even after reading both the official and fan translations of the manga. Hopefully they cover it well enough in the anime.
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Nov 13, 2018 03:09
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I was seriously hoping that the final scene between Ifrit and Veldora would be in this episode. So glad it was.
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Nov 13, 2018 03:16
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Onean posted:I'd say it's mostly better than the LN, since that took a few chapters spread out in the first volume, interrupting the flow of things a bit. But there's one thing they haven't covered yet that's really important that I only really understood on reading the LN, even after reading both the official and fan translations of the manga. Hopefully they cover it well enough in the anime. Really? Does the LN go into more detail about why the ending of this plot thread unfolds the way it does? Because it was kinda weird how vague the justification was in the manga.
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Nov 13, 2018 03:23
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Skippy McPants posted:Really? Does the LN go into more detail about why the ending of this plot thread unfolds the way it does? Because it was kinda weird how vague the justification was in the manga. There is more for that, though even the LN keeps it a little vague (though there's a little reference in the bonus chapters the official manga translation has), but it's mainly just what exactly Shizu's Unique Skill does, why she has it to begin with and why it's so good for Rimuru.
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Nov 13, 2018 03:50
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I like this show and all, but hoo boy I hope Shizu isn't about to get fridged, especially in light of Rimuru presumably wearing her face going forwards.
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Nov 13, 2018 03:56
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Spiritus Nox posted:I like this show and all, but hoo boy I hope Shizu isn't about to get fridged, especially in light of Rimuru presumably wearing her face going forwards. Wouldn't Shizu have to become Rimuru's girlfriend first for it to count as getting fridged? Considering she's 80 something years old at this point it looks more like she might get three days from retiremented.
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Vorpal Cat posted:Wouldn't Shizu have to become Rimuru's girlfriend first for it to count as getting fridged? Considering she's 80 something years old at this point it looks more like she might get three days from retiremented. That would make it worse, yeah, and it wouldn't completely turn me off the show or anything if she died, but introducing a cool, interesting female character so that she can promptly die to further the motivations of the hero is still kinda lame no matter how well you spin it. Also the hero then presumably taking on her face adds a mildly weird dimension to the whole thing IMO.
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Nov 13, 2018 05:01
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Spiritus Nox posted:That would make it worse, yeah, and it wouldn't completely turn me off the show or anything if she died, but introducing a cool, interesting female character so that she can promptly die to further the motivations of the hero is still kinda lame no matter how well you spin it. If you don't mind spoilers and want a bit of context: the Ifrit was artificially extending her life. Without it, she starts rapidly aging to the point of death. Rimuru, feeling a sense of kinship with her and acting as sort of her deathbed confessor asks to take on any burdens she's still carrying so she can pass on peacefully. She imparts both the anger at the dude who summoned her and some other stuff that I won't spoil since it relates to later splot threads. So, it is totally "woman dies to give the protagonist a sense of purpose," but it's probably the least offensive framing of the trope one could imagine. It's also pretty weird that he eats her and that is honestly not given enough context, at least in the manga.
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Nov 13, 2018 05:18
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Spiritus Nox posted:That would make it worse, yeah, and it wouldn't completely turn me off the show or anything if she died, but introducing a cool, interesting female character so that she can promptly die to further the motivations of the hero is still kinda lame no matter how well you spin it. The promo stuff doesn't seem to imply this is going to happen...  But I haven't read any of the source material so I don't know.
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Nov 13, 2018 05:20
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Skippy McPants posted:If you don't mind spoilers and want a bit of context: the Ifrit was artificially extending her life. Without it, she starts rapidly aging to the point of death. Rimuru, feeling a sense of kinship with her and acting as sort of her deathbed confessor asks to take on any burdens she's still carrying so she can pass on peacefully. She imparts both the anger at the dude who summoned her and some other stuff that I won't spoil since it relates to later splot threads. Man, if you're gonna do it that's a decent enough way to do it, I suppose, but...jeeze. Would really have liked to have kept Shizu around, even if not in a combat role.
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Nov 13, 2018 05:21
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Spiritus Nox posted:Man, if you're gonna do it that's a decent enough way to do it, I suppose, but...jeeze. Would really have liked to have kept Shizu around, even if not in a combat role. Maybe also worth mentioning that while Shizu is the first capable and well-characterized woman in the story, she isn't the last and so far as I know (again, haven't read the LN) they aren't habitually killed off.
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Nov 13, 2018 05:31
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Skippy McPants posted:Maybe also worth mentioning that while Shizu is the first capable and well-characterized woman in the story, she isn't the last and so far as I know (again, haven't read the LN) they aren't habitually killed off. That certainly helps, thanks.
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Nov 13, 2018 05:43
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Skippy McPants posted:If you don't mind spoilers and want a bit of context: the Ifrit was artificially extending her life. Without it, she starts rapidly aging to the point of death. Rimuru, feeling a sense of kinship with her and acting as sort of her deathbed confessor asks to take on any burdens she's still carrying so she can pass on peacefully. She imparts both the anger at the dude who summoned her and some other stuff that I won't spoil since it relates to later splot threads. Spiritus Nox posted:Man, if you're gonna do it that's a decent enough way to do it, I suppose, but...jeeze. Would really have liked to have kept Shizu around, even if not in a combat role. I went back and checked out the LN because I thought it mentioned her age, but it doesn't. Instead it's actually not vague at all, though what Skippy says covers a chunk of it. There's more of an explanation why, but I'll keep mum on that unless someone wants it just in case it shows up next week. It's better, but she still dies so it doesn't change a ton. Skippy McPants posted:Maybe also worth mentioning that while Shizu is the first capable and well-characterized woman in the story, she isn't the last and so far as I know (again, haven't read the LN) they aren't habitually killed off. I've only read the official LN translations, so they've only just handled Charaybdis, though it'll get ahead of the manga translations in December judging by the cover. There are some side-story manga I've read that's set a decent bit past the manga fan translations, so super spoilers, that show basically everyone's (and then some, that I'm really excited to learn about) still around.
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Nov 13, 2018 05:50
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Nov 13, 2018 06:03
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Sorry, this segment is kinda the main inciting incident so it’s hard not to talk about. For a more generalist spoiler-free take, I’ll say how much I appreciate that nearly all of the monsters and villains in this series have good, sympathetic motivations even when they’re doing bad stuff.
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Nov 13, 2018 06:13
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Except Ifrit, apparently. He's just an rear end in a top hat I guess.
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Nov 13, 2018 06:14
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Clarste posted:Except Ifrit, apparently. He's just an rear end in a top hat I guess. And the summoner guy. I like that the three human adventurers are good people and a tight knit group, and that they were reasonably competent in the fight if very outclassed.
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Clarste posted:Except Ifrit, apparently. He's just an rear end in a top hat I guess. Yeah, I did say nearly. Some people and monsters are still just assholes. To be more specific I'd say that I like how the show doesn't portray people or races as inherently evil. Too many fantasy works get away with treating race essentialism as a given, whether it's a positive or negative expression. Like, there's a nice bit a ways further in where Rimuru comments that members from one of his adoptive monster communities have the potential to rival dwarven craftsmanship once they've received sufficient training. It's a welcome subversion because strikes down both the "unthinking monster" and the "dwarves are always the best at making stuff" clichés.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Also the hero then presumably taking on her face adds a mildly weird dimension to the whole thing IMO. Clarste posted:Except Ifrit, apparently. He's just an rear end in a top hat I guess.
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Clarste posted:Except Ifrit, apparently. He's just an rear end in a top hat I guess.
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Nov 13, 2018 12:32
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Nate RFB posted:I'm still sort of confused about why all of this popped off in the first place. They established over the last couple of episodes that Shizu is losing control of the Ifrit. In this episode, we see that crisis hit critical mass. Random backstory stuff: the mask she wears helps her contain the Ifrit and keeps it from going rage monster like it did when she killed her pokemon trainer friend. Unfortunately, it wasn't a permanent solution, which is why she abandoned her life and went looking for her summoner. She knew she was running out of time. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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Nov 13, 2018 12:42
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God, I can’t wait for the rest of the episodes.
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Nov 13, 2018 13:32
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Skippy McPants posted:They established over the last couple of episodes that Shizu is losing control of the Ifrit. In this episode, we see that crisis hit critical mass. That really wasn't a rage. Ifrit's very much a rules and order type of spirit, and one of Leon's rules that he gave to Ifrit was to kill any monsters and people harboring them in the castle.
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Nov 13, 2018 13:52
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exploded mummy posted:That really wasn't a rage. Ifrit's very much a rules and order type of spirit, and one of Leon's rules that he gave to Ifrit was to kill any monsters and people harboring them in the castle. Figure of speech. Even without the source material to go on, the anime clearly sets down that the one thing Shizu absolutely does not want is for the Ifrit to regain any measure of control.
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Nov 13, 2018 13:57
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How's about we let the anime tell the story and leave novel/manga stuff out until the anime passed said point.
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Yeah as a manga reader I can understand the excitement about events in the near and far future but its kinda demoralizing for anime watchers when the thread is 90% manga/LN spoilers blotting out the sun.
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