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Oops, totally misread that.
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Isn't the upcoming Kickstarter supposed to have an updated print copy? That's what I've been holding out for.
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Oct 25, 2018 15:29
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There's going to be a new print version?  Where do I get in?
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Tias posted:There's going to be a new print version? The Occult Philosophy Kickstarter starts on November 12th.
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Oct 26, 2018 14:42
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Oh, I thought it was the core rules. Carry on!
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Tias posted:Oh, I thought it was the core rules. Carry on! It is. You can presumably pledge high enough or grab an add-on for an updated core rule book.
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Oct 29, 2018 12:21
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i just picked up a physical rule book, are the errata intense enough that I should've gotten an updated copy?
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Finster Dexter posted:i just picked up a physical rule book, are the errata intense enough that I should've gotten an updated copy? No, all the important stuff is in the pdf. This looks like its mostly aimed at new players and those who really want the new art (it is not clear how much new art will be in the book).
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Anyone else feel like the magician is the weakest of the four novice paths? It gets a lot of spells, sure, but it's got such low HP and no natural defensive options that I feel like you kind of have to take Arcana or Protection to really buff yourself up.
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SunAndSpring posted:Anyone else feel like the magician is the weakest of the four novice paths? It gets a lot of spells, sure, but it's got such low HP and no natural defensive options that I feel like you kind of have to take Arcana or Protection to really buff yourself up. Not at all. It's definitely outclassed by some of the variant novice paths outside the core book, but having access to lots of traditions (and totally free choice in what they are, unlike a priest) without having to sacrifice higher-level spells is a big deal. They do take a while (and the addition of other paths) to really shine -- I'd say when level 3 spells come online is when spellcasters of any kind start to take off -- but even so. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Nov 4, 2018 |
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Nov 4, 2018 18:29
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I just had a great first session GM'ing SotDL! I got a group of old friends together, most of whom are not gamers. We created 0 level characters and played Dead by Dawn. I definitely pulled punches and was super generous with boons, because it was clear that everyone was pretty attached to the characters they made and I didn't want to frustrate new players by having them die right away. And they caught a super bad wave of zombies/animated corpses that would have definitely felled most of them. Level 0 was great, though, for introducing the concept of the game without having to worry too much about mechanics. They were really pumped about doing another session and were already throwing out ideas for how they would further investigate the events they just lived through.
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Occult Philosophy Kickstarter is live! Looks like a lotta interesting stuff in the stretch goals, and the add-ons will pretty much let you grab anything that's been produced so far at a decent bargain price.
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tracker is already at $14k so I don't think the funding will be an issue, I do hope it makes it to at least the $50k mark as I'm quite interested in Vault of the Demon Lord and Men of Gog I guess offset printing would also be nice
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Getting another companion would also be great, both books have added to the table.
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I actively do not want 800 spells added to this game, and the de-grim-ified book isn't a stretch goal unlock, so I guess I'm not backing that.
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Lemon-Lime posted:I actively do not want 800 spells added to this game, and the de-grim-ified book isn't a stretch goal unlock, so I guess I'm not backing that. Spells are good and cool, nerd. Also you get only about 16 spells at most if you go Magician, do 3 traditions, and go into standard wizardy paths beyond that, and many of the new spells are 6+ so PCs are never going to get to use them bar the GM gifting them a scroll of it. I really wouldn't worry about it if you're having D&D flashbacks or something. SunAndSpring fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Nov 12, 2018 |
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SunAndSpring posted:Spells are good and cool, nerd. That said I want schwalb to keep making games and am kinda tempted to back anyway because sotdl rules, but this particular book does not appeal much to me.
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Nov 12, 2018 21:51
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One thing I'd like to do with all these new spells is devise a random table for spells by level. So when you level up you can choose 1 spell or roll randomly for 2 spells and see what you get.
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Nov 12, 2018 21:57
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Yeah, I'm at 50 (for now), but put me down for "gosh, I do NOT need more spells." NOW! If he adds in a Spell Index or whatever? One big final list for all the spells in the game, along with their locations in whatever books they are in? I'm down. The game is great, but without a wiki or something (RIP), it's unwieldy.
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Nov 12, 2018 22:09
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It's extremely unwieldy and the fact he never condensed all those 10-20 page supplements into reference book form...well, it sucks. That and Shwab's juvenile edgelord poo poo is the only thing I'd change.
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Nov 12, 2018 22:13
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dwarf74 posted:Yeah, I'm at 50 (for now), but put me down for "gosh, I do NOT need more spells." This exists! https://schwalbentertainment.com/play-aids/shadow-of-the-demon-lord-reference-tables/ It doesn't give any details about what a spell does but it does tell you name, school, and where to find the rules text.
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Are there going to be new Paths to get with this book or is just 800 spells (of which like 400 are usable in standard campaigns)?
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Nov 12, 2018 22:23
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:This exists!
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Nov 12, 2018 22:27
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SunAndSpring posted:Are there going to be new Paths to get with this book or is just 800 spells (of which like 400 are usable in standard campaigns)? It does state in the kickstarter that there will be new Paths. If nothing else there's at least one new Tradition, which I'm assuming will get it's corresponding Path.
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Very good to see that even if the offset printing stretch goal is reached, backers have the option of sticking with the POD coupon.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:This is actually a thought I had that makes me think twice before backing - it's already so unlikely you're going to use a given core book spell in your campaign that I don't feel a great desire for a book of even more spells that are effectively only given by DM fiat. The spells I saw during playtesting seemed awesome and thematic, but I doubt I'd end up using more than a few at the table. I was hoping he was going to make this the core book for levels 10-20. If it's just a list of optional, add-on items, exclusively for spellcasting paths, it seems a bit niche for the $20 cost. Yea I may not use it much since, thankfully unlike D&D no matter how many piles of spells they add magic has a very static state of being pretty rare and more designed for DM/player planning for what they want. I'll still probably back just to have the options and support the game.
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You think this one was backed quickly, just wait for the one with 800 chargen tables.
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At level 10 you find a *really* interesting thing - roll on this table of 1000.
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Spells are the real engine of character customization in this game, though. (Or at least, like 50% of it.) It's not quite a fair comparison.
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Some previews from the book, showing off some of my least-favorite aspects of SotDL: 
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Rereading the core book and the magic master paths are a real mixed bag. Either you get strong stuff like Destroyer, which turns the self-damage limiting factor of Destruction into free damage against your enemies and makes all 1s into 6s on damage, or you get poo poo like Pyromancer which gives you a lame fire resistance and a chance to immolate your foes but it never explains how much damage being on fire does. The non-caster ones are more consistent.
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There are rules for being on fire but yeah, pretty inconvenient that they're not right there next to that ability.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:There are rules for being on fire but yeah, pretty inconvenient that they're not right there next to that ability.
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Lemon-Lime posted:I actively do not want 800 spells added to this game, and the de-grim-ified book isn't a stretch goal unlock, so I guess I'm not backing that. I'm increasingly of the opinion that the de-grim-ified book is not something that Schwalb is particularly interested in doing. Which is fine, I can trim the maggot infested, putrescent fat. I just want it in a pretty book supporting the authors.
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Shorter SotDL "darkness": What if magic, but you poop demons?
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ZorajitZorajit posted:I'm increasingly of the opinion that the de-grim-ified book is not something that Schwalb is particularly interested in doing. Which is fine, I can trim the maggot infested, putrescent fat. I just want it in a pretty book supporting the authors. Yeah, it feels like the grim is something that he considers required to the product he wants to make. Sometimes I agree and sometimes (like above) it feels really unnecessary.
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Grim is fine, "lol your dick turns into poop and falls off" is stupid.
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This is Evil Dead and I love it for it, warts and all. It's fine if you personally don't like that in your elfgames, but don't kink shame. Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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Conspiratiorist posted:This is Evil Dead and I love it for it, warts and all. It's so Evil Dead I've decided whenever I finally get to run Dead by Dawn I'm gonna be hamming it up with so much Deadite stuff. That and having added a deactivated "Chop-Bot" in the taverns shed that has a broken chainsaw for an arm.
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