§ 409.2 also lays out specific appeal procedures and everything with timeframes and notice requirements. https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/31/409.2 Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Oh, I thought they'd go libel/defamation for the assault claim. Doubt anyone tries for defamation, but that video is absolutely going to kill the white house's defense in court.
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I wouldn't put it past Trump, Shucks and Co. to send the aide that was "viciously attacked" by Acosta in to testify with her arm in a sling and hilariously fake bruises
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Kimsemus posted:woah Yeah that seems pretty ironclad.
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Ripoff posted:Not gonna lie, as bummed as I am that Abrams will most likely lose, it makes me giddy as gently caress to know that Handel is out for good. Secret of State special election coming up either way. It still grinds my loving gears that it wasn't on the general ballot. Kemp is such a loving disaster.
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# ? Nov 13, 2018 16:53 |
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Honestly why is trump still around? I can literally look up newspaper articles that prove he's lying, I can look up publicly reported facts that point to criminal activity. How hard can it possibly be to find something illegal trump did as president? An entire political party has learned that acting like a child gets you what you want. Holding your breath and taking your ball and going home and just DARING someone to do something to stop them. And there's really no way to stop them??
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InsertPotPun posted:Honestly why is trump still around? I can literally look up newspaper articles that prove he's lying, I can look up publicly reported facts that point to criminal activity. How hard can it possibly be to find something illegal trump did as president? The design of the government did a really bad job accounting for the way political parties work. The founders realized this a little too late.
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InsertPotPun posted:Honestly why is trump still around? Because https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY
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InsertPotPun posted:Honestly why is trump still around? I can literally look up newspaper articles that prove he's lying, I can look up publicly reported facts that point to criminal activity. How hard can it possibly be to find something illegal trump did as president? Short answer: the GOP considers him a net positive.
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InsertPotPun posted:Honestly why is trump still around? I can literally look up newspaper articles that prove he's lying, I can look up publicly reported facts that point to criminal activity. How hard can it possibly be to find something illegal trump did as president? The people with the power to stop him are deadlocked at best, and in league with him at worst. We need more time, more crimes.
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Kimsemus posted:I don't mean frivolous in the negative way, of course. I think in my mind though I don't see what kind of relief CNN is asking for that can be reasonably granted. The white house doesn't get to pick the reporters that cover it. They're asking for, and will likely get, his hard pass back. He'll be back in that room asking questions very soon.
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Chilichimp posted:The white house doesn't get to pick the reporters that cover it. They're asking for, and will likely get, his hard pass back. He'll be back in that room asking questions very soon. The only problem is I think trump has held more pressers since mid August than ShuckS has.
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Chilichimp posted:The white house doesn't get to pick the reporters that cover it. They're asking for, and will likely get, his hard pass back. He'll be back in that room asking questions very soon. Serious question: does Trump ever have to call on him again?
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goethe.cx posted:newly elected senator from a red-leaning state says some lowest-common-denominator bullshit about bipartisanship and john mccain, this makes her worse than manchin and therefore worse than hitler Can we put this in the op
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Chilichimp posted:The white house doesn't get to pick the reporters that cover it. They're asking for, and will likely get, his hard pass back. He'll be back in that room asking questions very soon. The White House absolutely does get to pick who sits in that press pool.
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InsertPotPun posted:Honestly why is trump still around? I can literally look up newspaper articles that prove he's lying, I can look up publicly reported facts that point to criminal activity. How hard can it possibly be to find something illegal trump did as president? Those who have the ability and power to stop him have given up completely or are in league with him because he controls their absolutely stupid and rabid voting base, because they have no sense of morals or ethics, or decency. An entire party has decided that shame does not matter That's about it
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Mineaiki posted:Serious question: does Trump ever have to call on him again? I don't think so, but he will be unable to resist doing so.
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InsertPotPun posted:Honestly why is trump still around? I can literally look up newspaper articles that prove he's lying, I can look up publicly reported facts that point to criminal activity. How hard can it possibly be to find something illegal trump did as president? the only people he is accountable to are the senators who get everything they've ever wanted because he's president
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Short answer: the GOP considers him a net positive. Their voters still love Dear Leader. They can't cut him loose without enraging their base.
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Crow Jane posted:I wouldn't put it past Trump, Shucks and Co. to send the aide that was "viciously attacked" by Acosta in to testify with her arm in a sling and hilariously fake bruises They’ve moved on. Now the problem is he was hogging the mic. https://twitter.com/yamiche/status/1062371518649393152?s=21
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Crow Jane posted:I wouldn't put it past Trump, Shucks and Co. to send the aide that was "viciously attacked" by Acosta in to testify with her arm in a sling and hilariously fake bruises While that seems like something they would feel would totally work, I feel it's something they wouldn't actually do for one reason: it would require real (if stupid/half-assed) effort on their part. And we all know how that crew feels about effort.
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mcmagic posted:Their voters still love Dear Leader. They can't cut him loose without enraging their base.
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Senate looks a whole lot better now than it did on election night. Nelson probably still loses on the recount I'd assume, but with Sinema winning that means the absolute worst case scenario is losing 2 seats. Best would be gaining a seat, but that seems unlikely unless Florida recount somehow comes up roses. Winning the run-off seems a more realistic hope though and that would mean a net loss of one seat assuming Scott wins Florida. 2020 and 2022 both have many more Republican seats up for grabs than Democrat seats as well. So there's that.
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Chilichimp posted:The white house doesn't get to pick the reporters that cover it. They're asking for, and will likely get, his hard pass back. He'll be back in that room asking questions very soon. I'm not sure I'd go that far My guess as to how this goes down: 1) CNN wins the initial motion fight unless it's kicked out on separation of powers. There may be appeals and relief may be granted in meanwhile 2) the alternative relief CNN requested gets granted and it all gets kicked over to the formal process (notice of denial, time for appeal, etc.) and Acosta is run through a kangaroo court for a few months as everyone in the white house gets ordered to make sure Acosta doesn't step foot back through the door. 3) That fight eventually goes to the federal courts and Trump's WH / DOJ changes its position five or ten more times until they find a better argument that isn't farcical (see: how they handled the muslim ban) 4) The overall process ends up taking longer than Trump's term in office Like I said, from the face of the complaint Acosta should win, but this poo poo won't be quick.
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ought ten posted:They’ve moved on. Now the problem is he was hogging the mic. "Physically" refused. As opposed to, what, metaphysically?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I'm not sure I'd go that far It’s amazing how chaotic incompetence can be so predictable. I’ve thought this about jobs I’ve had before, but never about the presidency.
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https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1062373814481416193
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FizFashizzle posted:"Physically" refused. Spiritually, he resisted through the power of Christ.
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FizFashizzle posted:"Physically" refused. Verbal?
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AOC for speaker of the house, none of the other vichy dem plutocrats speak for us.
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So when the hell do we get a definitive answer as to whether the Florida undervote was a user or machine error? It shouldn’t be that difficult, just take a look at a handful of the undervote ballots and see if there is a mark or not.
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Would the WH be able to just exclude CNN as a whole from press briefings instead? Now I’m now very curious how this gets handled as a policy matter. Can news agencies be guaranteed a spot? Does Breitbart or High Times or whoever have to be let in to a press conference if they are first in line? (I personally think the answer should be yes, but WH could claim “At the end of the day this is just a meeting and we meet with who we want” though that’s a different question than whether CFR was followed and it’s harder politically to ban an entire network than just one guy.)
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So when the hell do we get a definitive answer as to whether the Florida undervote was a user or machine error? It shouldn’t be that difficult, just take a look at a handful of the undervote ballots and see if there is a mark or not. There's no chance that those undervoting ballots are separated in any special way from the rest of the lot, so the only way forward is to count all of them. There's good reason to believe it's a machine error, because the under voting didn't occur on ballots counted after Tuesday that had the same layout.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So when the hell do we get a definitive answer as to whether the Florida undervote was a user or machine error? It shouldn’t be that difficult, just take a look at a handful of the undervote ballots and see if there is a mark or not. It’s almost certainly a case of “we’re hosed by poor ballot design” rather than machine error, but they can’t really say that definitively until a hand recount is complete.
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I can't wait till she primaries Schumer.
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Blorange posted:There's no chance that those undervoting ballots are separated in any special way from the rest of the lot, so the only way forward is to count all of them. There's good reason to believe it's a machine error, because the under voting didn't occur on ballots counted after Tuesday that had the same layout. Interesting if true, but if those are absentee ballots we’re talking about, wouldn’t be too surprising that the voters had more time to figure them out.
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Peter Daou Bundy posted:AOC for speaker of the house, none of the other vichy dem plutocrats speak for us. Great as her policy positions might be, she'd be a terrible cat herder right now. She lacks the power and influence to bind others to her will.
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Kimsemus posted:The White House absolutely does get to pick who sits in that press pool. They have to give them security clearances, sure. They invited brietbart and other lovely right wing news sites to that room. But CNN sends a reporter, and the White House doesn't get to pick who that is. They can deny them security clearance, sure, but there's a process for that and it's got nothing to do with the personal preference of the President.
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McCloud posted:You got a source for this part? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/ny-times-reporter-confirm_b_500999.html: quote:Kirkpatrick also reported in his original New York Times article that White House was standing behind the deal with the for-profit hospitals: “Not to worry, Jim Messina, the deputy White House chief of staff, told the hospital lobbyists, according to White House officials and lobbyists briefed on the call. The White House was standing behind the deal”. https://www.salon.com/2010/10/05/public_option_24/: quote:As Igor Volsky of ThinkProgress expertly documents -- both by citing to Daschle's book and by interviewing him -- the White House had negotiated away the public option very early in the process (July, 2009), even though Obama and the administration spent months after that assuring their supporters that they were doing everything they could do have a public option in the bill: It's pretty slick to be able to convince your supporters that they just aren't calling Congress or doing activisms hard enough months after you've made secret deals to shut out what those voters want.
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https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1062375284391825408 He lied when he said he watches her. She's not on FOX news. e: I also like how his aggressive masculinity doesn't seem to phase her at all in the moment. I would possibly have my feelings hurt or lose my poo poo on a lying sack of poo poo telling me my legitimate question is stupid. CmdrRiker fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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