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TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Party Plane Jones posted:



ah garrison you are truly the worst


I find it interesting that he always draws a genuinely attractive woman as uglier than she is, but he draws Trump always as this chiseled Adonis

Why would that be Garrison? :thunk:

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Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Skex posted:

Sigh , we've had this discussion multiple times over the last two years and what it comes down to is that Trump has spent the majority of his presidency alienating the groups that would be required to pull of a successful coup, without the IC, National Law enforcement (read FBI) and Military on his side such an action would be impossible for him. I mean yeah he could declare the election invalid, he could declare what ever the gently caress he wants but come inauguration day the Secret service would escort his rear end to the door as the new administration takes power.

The only way he stays in the White House after the 2020 election and inauguration is if he wins reelection.

I'd sooner expect Donald to successfully cancel the election altogether than successfully invalidate the result after the fact. And I don't expect him to do the former, especially not after watching how he handled midterms.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007


https://mobile.twitter.com/itplol/status/1062136701764751361
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https://mobile.twitter.com/itplol/status/1062151294176112640

Abner Assington
Mar 13, 2005

For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry god. Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now, at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

Amen.
What's the point here? People born in other states can't become politicians in other states?

If so, gently caress, I'm all for it. That would clean up my state of Kentucky pretty handily. No Mitch McConnell, no Rand Paul, no Matt Bevin.

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Fitzy Fitz posted:

https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/1062402206094241792

"Why are you trying to change the party from within rather than protesting people who will never listen to you???"

"Why don't you wait until after the elections to criticize democrats, we need all the unity and votes we can get right now"

A week after the election:

"lol jk no ur place scrub"

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Spiritus Nox posted:

I'd sooner expect Donald to successfully cancel the election altogether than successfully invalidate the result after the fact.

The president has no mechanism to do this. Presidential electors are selected on a state-by-state basis, as determined by the election laws of each state, there is no PRESIDENT CANCEL ELECTION BUTTAN for him to push. If he tells say California not to hold the election, they'll tell him to eat poo poo.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




Using Antitrust laws to defy my Liberterian beliefs to break up companies I don't like, to own myself?

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Nov 13, 2018

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Why present your ideas to people who will listen and possibly accept them. Instead you should yell at people who ignore you.

threeagainstfour
Jun 27, 2005


Vintersorg posted:

:lol: This guy is full of poo poo.

Oh no, someone making a difference! Why isn't she just falling in line like a dumb poo poo republican?

My favorite part of the reaction from guys like this is the notion that Pelosi is an experienced veteran of DC politics that AOC should shut up and learn from, but she should also not have to deal with even the slightest pressure from within her party to take more action on climate change.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Abner Assington posted:

What's the point here? People born in other states can't become politicians in other states?

If so, gently caress, I'm all for it. That would clean up my state of Kentucky pretty handily. No Mitch McConnell, no Rand Paul, no Matt Bevin.

No Ted Cruz here, I'm in.

Though on a related note, I learned during this year's primaries that you don't actually have to live in the district you want to be a US Representative for. The guy I wanted for the Democratic nom actually lives outside the boundaries of it but lives very close and used to live in the district before it was redrawn and it's a lovely gerrymandered mess anyway so him not living in the actual boundaries mattered not to me.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

Abner Assington posted:

What's the point here? People born in other states can't become politicians in other states?

If so, gently caress, I'm all for it. That would clean up my state of Kentucky pretty handily. No Mitch McConnell, no Rand Paul, no Matt Bevin.
You're thinking too much about a dumb political cartoon.
Casey was born in PA. The point is that he's somehow an out of touch California (the most left wing place on earth as far as the US right is concerned) liberal who doesn't represent PA values.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

No gently caress you, you can’t say poo poo like this when you had them arrested.

InnercityGriot
Dec 31, 2008
If your reaction to a person in position of at least some power when they agitate for a more muscular policy on climate change, an actual existential threat to the entire human race, is to tut-tut about how she's being immature, or a poor sport, or not recognizing the true enemy, you are a loving idiot. It is okay to admit that Democrats need to be pushed way to the left on climate policy, people are such babies. Twitter centrists deserve the blasted hellscape we'll be left with if they continue their finger-wagging, we have less than a dozen years to get right on this.

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
I think some people are missing what AOC and the protest group were doing. It wasn't getting Pelosi to re-implement the committee, it was to ask for stronger commitments for 100% renewable energy from the committee.

Remember that the proposal that came out of the committee the last time was a weak cap-and-trade system. AOC wants a much stronger commitment towards a "green new deal"

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1062398112977862658
https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1062397035578646530

Personally I think AOC is going to be a strong advocate for the progressive movement, help their voices be heard, but yet do it in a way that doesn't alienate the establishment Democratic wing, which makes it more likely for her, and their, demands to be heard.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Pelosi takes AOC under her wing. It would be to her, and the Democratic Party's, own benefit to do so.

Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

Ann Coulter continues to be very mad that Trump hasn't genocided all the immigrants.

https://twitter.com/ritholtz/status/1062422842803920897?s=19

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Lightning Knight posted:

No gently caress you, you can’t say poo poo like this when you had them arrested.

Is there evidence that Pelosi was the one who ordered their arrest?

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

pro click here.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

The whole thing looks choreographed to me to give Pelosi and AOC both more bona fides -- Pelosi with the base and AOC by showing she can work with the party agenda. I mean, good?

yeah if AOC and Pelosi are coordinating on this sort of stuff that's fantastic

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Ague Proof posted:

Is there evidence that Pelosi was the one who ordered their arrest?

I mean, no, I don’t literally think she had them arrested per se, although it’s possible. But she should be calling for their release, saying how there was no need for police involvement, etc., if she really believed this tweet. You can’t say you find them inspiring and great when they were led out of your office in handcuffs.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1062427397734174727

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
https://twitter.com/TopRopeTravis/status/1062426798712074240

What's all this about?

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Lightning Knight posted:

No gently caress you, you can’t say poo poo like this when you had them arrested.

Ague Proof posted:

Is there evidence that Pelosi was the one who ordered their arrest?

who did if it wasn't her?

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Ague Proof posted:

Is there evidence that Pelosi was the one who ordered their arrest?

Or that she has the power to tell them not to arrest them?

I'm not trying to defend Pelosi here but apparently there were about 200 people (no way they would have fit inside I assume) outside her office, so I imagine the cops would be the ones doing the arresting under their own initiative of getting people out.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Lightning Knight posted:

I mean, no, I don’t literally think she had them arrested per se, although it’s possible. But she should be calling for their release, saying how there was no need for police involvement, etc.

literally exactly what happened in real life world?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/13/ocasio-cortez-climate-protestors-push-pelosi-962915

Pelosi said she welcomed the protest and called on the police "to allow them to continue to organize and participate in our democracy.”

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

Lemming posted:

Or that she has the power to tell them not to arrest them?

I'm not trying to defend Pelosi here but apparently there were about 200 people (no way they would have fit inside I assume) outside her office, so I imagine the cops would be the ones doing the arresting under their own initiative of getting people out.

Someone has to call the cops they don't show up like magic.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Burning_Monk posted:

pro click here.

Charlie tried to stump Alvin by asking him who else was present at the meeting, and Alvin could only remember the Russian lawyer. This worked until Charlie brought up that Jared Kushner and the 'Campaign Chairman'* (Paul Manafort) were also present, as if that makes it better. That's a huge mistake for a propaganda shill like Charlie: don't remind your opponent of something that supports their argument.

*His words

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

literally exactly what happened in real life world?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/13/ocasio-cortez-climate-protestors-push-pelosi-962915

Pelosi said she welcomed the protest and called on the police "to allow them to continue to organize and participate in our democracy.”

Mm. Fine. I suppose that’s enough for now.

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

Peaceful Anarchy posted:

You're thinking too much about a dumb political cartoon.
Casey was born in PA. The point is that he's somehow an out of touch California (the most left wing place on earth as far as the US right is concerned) liberal who doesn't represent PA values.
Casey is a Scranton pro-life catholic Democrat who, like... exemplifies that sort of PA voter. Certainly a better fit than Santorum's weird evangelical brand of Catholicism.

Edit: he's also part of a political dynasty in the state and would have followed his father as governor if Ed Rendell (yes, that Ed Rendell) hadn't beat him in the primary on the back of the Philly Democrat vote.

Tibalt fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 13, 2018

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

axelord posted:

Someone has to call the cops they don't show up like magic.

Uhhhhhh it's the capitol, there are going to be lots of cops all the time

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

axelord posted:

Someone has to call the cops they don't show up like magic.

You think the cops won't show up to a 200 person protest

Ok

Edmund Lava
Sep 8, 2004

Hey, I'm from Brooklyn. I'm going to call myself Mr. Friendly.

GreyjoyBastard posted:

yeah if AOC and Pelosi are coordinating on this sort of stuff that's fantastic

Yeah it’s this. A Freshman congresswoman from a small caucus openly plotting with the next speaker of the house for objectively good thing even if it is staged.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

axelord posted:

Someone has to call the cops they don't show up like magic.

Yes police won't show up at the capital for multi-hundred person protests without Evil Nancy Pelosi personally calling them.

Wait, what

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

It's literally the Capitol Building, there are always cops there and a million staffers and who knows how many other people. It doesn't require Pelosi herself calling the police and I'm pretty sure the cops have a chain of command that operates separately from the House members, though maybe she could call the police chief and ask him to go easy, I dunno.

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

Lemming posted:

Uhhhhhh it's the capitol, there are going to be lots of cops all the time

I'm guessing that the cops don't just remove people for the Minority Leaders Office without getting the go ahead from someone.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

NoDamage posted:

Is anyone else worried about how he's going to react in 2020 if he loses the election? If he's already peddling conspiracy theories about this one I don't think he's going to go quietly...

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

He will bitch, moan, whine, hem, haw, and gripe. On Twitter.

And he will quietly pack up and leave.

Trump is a giant coward and the idea of actual confrontation is utterly repellent to him. He'll be just as happy to retreat to his gilded shithole in Manhattan--he can have all the burnt steak and ice cream he wants, he can play as many rounds of golf as his cholesterol-choked heart desires, and he can continue doing his Two Minutes Hate rallies. Republicans will continue to kiss his ring, and he can continue to fire off badly-misspelled rants on Twitter.

It's the ideal situation for Trump. The role of "former President" is better than anything he could ever dream of.

as much as i'd love to see him dragged bodily out of the white house by the secret service, yeah, he ain't gonna do poo poo other than tweet and speechify

i have some concerns about another uptick in right-wing violence, but 'donald trump barricades himself in the white house / instates martial law / nukes California' are not those concerns

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

axelord posted:

I'm guessing that the cops don't just remove people for the Minority Leaders Office without getting the go ahead from someone.

Stop guessing

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr
Fine. Pelosi usually bad. Today Pelosi good. But I reserve the right to Pelosi bad at any given moment.

1337JiveTurkey
Feb 17, 2005

GreyjoyBastard posted:

as much as i'd love to see him dragged bodily out of the white house by the secret service, yeah, he ain't gonna do poo poo other than tweet and speechify

i have some concerns about another uptick in right-wing violence, but 'donald trump barricades himself in the white house / instates martial law / nukes California' are not those concerns

I mainly want to see Trump barricade himself somewhere just to see what he's physically capable of dragging.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high
Yeah, I'm not worried about some sort of direct coup or anything, but Trump refusing to leave gracefully would absolutely cause even more psychological damage to the country and trigger even more right-wing domestic violence.

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Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

axelord posted:

I'm guessing that the cops don't just remove people for the Minority Leaders Office without getting the go ahead from someone.

Cops love arresting people and hate protestors. These protests are generally angling to get arrested because they want to be disruptive and make noise and get attention (note that this is a good tactic and these people are incredibly brave and laudible). It just doesn't require Pelosi to be antagonistic towards them for this to have happened. I'm sure there are lots of other offices there, as well. 200 people standing in a hallway is disruptive by nature, which cops hate.

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