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Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

fishing with the fam posted:

Fine. Pelosi usually bad. Today Pelosi good. But I reserve the right to Pelosi bad at any given moment.
No poo poo, really?

Maybe the sun will rise tomorrow too.

Edit: this was probably unfairly harsh and more generally aimed at everyone in general and not you specifically as a poster.

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Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Lightning Knight posted:

Mm. Fine. I suppose that’s enough for now.

This is dangerously sympathetic towards a collaborator, comrade

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/1062412022602784768

A Totally Normal Brain at work here

e: what the gently caress is a "Competitionist"

Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747

Lemming posted:

Cops love arresting people and hate protestors. These protests are generally angling to get arrested because they want to be disruptive and make noise and get attention (note that this is a good tactic and these people are incredibly brave and laudible). It just doesn't require Pelosi to be antagonistic towards them for this to have happened. I'm sure there are lots of other offices there, as well. 200 people standing in a hallway is disruptive by nature, which cops hate.

My friend just told me that Pelosi actually delayed the police action so she could dress up in a uniform and join in the arresting. :(

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

Lemming posted:

Cops love arresting people and hate protestors. These protests are generally angling to get arrested because they want to be disruptive and make noise and get attention (note that this is a good tactic and these people are incredibly brave and laudible). It just doesn't require Pelosi to be antagonistic towards them for this to have happened. I'm sure there are lots of other offices there, as well. 200 people standing in a hallway is disruptive by nature, which cops hate.

DC (Capitol) police are some of the most professional and understanding officers you'll ever deal with, but you are a brokebrain if you don't think they'll not arrest you for this kind of thing of their own volition. But you'll also be let go without charges. It's mostly to get you to leave. I've worked in DC a long time, they're good folks.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

fishing with the fam posted:

Fine. Pelosi usually bad. Today Pelosi good. But I reserve the right to Pelosi bad at any given moment.

Rules to live by.

Edit: ^ counterpoint: ACAB

NoDamage
Dec 2, 2000

Skex posted:

Sigh , we've had this discussion multiple times over the last two years and what it comes down to is that Trump has spent the majority of his presidency alienating the groups that would be required to pull of a successful coup, without the IC, National Law enforcement (read FBI) and Military on his side such an action would be impossible for him. I mean yeah he could declare the election invalid, he could declare what ever the gently caress he wants but come inauguration day the Secret service would escort his rear end to the door as the new administration takes power.

The only way he stays in the White House after the 2020 election and inauguration is if he wins reelection.

I guess I should clarify I'm less worried about a coup and more worried about him inciting some crazy MAGA cultist to go shoot up the people counting the ballots because "the Democrats are trying to steal the election". Hell, I'm vaguely worried that someone's going to do that in Florida over this election.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

axelord posted:

Someone has to call the cops they don't show up like magic.

The capitol police's jurisdiction is literally congressional buildings. This is how DC works. The Library of Congress used to have its own police force.

This is like asking who ratted out a 200-person protest to the campus cops at a small college.

PhyrexianLibrarian
Feb 21, 2004

Compleat silence, please

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/wsj-says-deputy-nsc-director-to-be-canned-over-spat-with-flotus

This is the only reference I could find, sounds like the same reason Kelly is rumored as out because of Melania.

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

NoDamage posted:

I guess I should clarify I'm less worried about a coup and more worried about him inciting some crazy MAGA cultist to go shoot up the people counting the ballots because "the Democrats are trying to steal the election". Hell, I'm vaguely worried that someone's going to do that in Florida over this election.

There are enough Broward Sherrifs officers there to delete anyone who attempted that though and they're all being counted in a secure facility. hosed up that we have to worry about this in the current day and age though.

e: whoever is changing my avatar, it costs me half as much to change it back and I have all day.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

No Safe Word posted:

e: what the gently caress is a "Competitionist"

I believe it has something to do with killing miners. Maybe he's in competition with Thatcher

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

axelord posted:

I'm guessing that the cops don't just remove people for the Minority Leaders Office without getting the go ahead from someone.

That many people is a security risk at the absolute least. Cops would totally disperse that crowd, though arrests is a bit overboard

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

Lemming posted:

Cops love arresting people and hate protestors. These protests are generally angling to get arrested because they want to be disruptive and make noise and get attention (note that this is a good tactic and these people are incredibly brave and laudible). It just doesn't require Pelosi to be antagonistic towards them for this to have happened. I'm sure there are lots of other offices there, as well. 200 people standing in a hallway is disruptive by nature, which cops hate.

Again it's the Minority Leaders office. Cops on their own initiative are not going to clear her office. Someone told them to do it.

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

axelord posted:

Again it's the Minority Leaders office. Cops on their own initiative are not going to clear her office. Someone told them to do it.

have you ever paid attention to any other protest on the hill? They clear people out on their own constantly.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Kimsemus posted:

e: whoever is changing my avatar, it costs me half as much to change it back and I have all day.

https://twitter.com/dril/status/972534838057230336

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

axelord posted:

Again it's the Minority Leaders office. Cops on their own initiative are not going to clear her office. Someone told them to do it.


Where are you even getting this from?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

I need some indictments in my veins.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Kimsemus posted:

I used to have a Roose Bolton avatar for years, but I woke up with this avatar one day, and they didn't even bother to change my old Roose quote below it

Kimsemus posted:

e: whoever is changing my avatar, it costs me half as much to change it back and I have all day.

"My avatar is just racist naturally, it's not my fault :angel:"

"MY AVATAR IS RACIST ON PURPOSE!"

Bubbacub
Apr 17, 2001

No Safe Word posted:

https://twitter.com/cam_joseph/status/1062412022602784768

A Totally Normal Brain at work here

e: what the gently caress is a "Competitionist"

Blankenship really should just gently caress off. The story of how his money really started the erosion of politics in WV always makes my blood boil:

quote:

In 1997, Blankenship’s maneuvers pushed a smaller operation into bankruptcy. Its owner, Hugh Caperton, sued Blankenship for fraudulent contract practices, eventually winning a $50 million judgment in 2002. But that was only the beginning. With the case coming up on appeal before the West Virginia Supreme Court, Blankenship brought his coal-baron tactics to the courtroom.

Justice Warren McGraw, up for reelection in 2004, was a coal-country Democrat beloved by union miners and a likely vote against Blankenship in his appeal, which by then had made its way to the supreme court. The state hadn’t elected a Republican to the high court in more than 80 years, so McGraw’s challenger, a little-known GOP lawyer named Brent Benjamin, didn’t seem to have much of a chance. Blankenship decided to change that.

Forming a nonprofit called And for the Sake of the Kids, Blankenship poured more than $3 million into a misleading negative ad campaign. Spanning television spots and billboards around the state, it accused McGraw of taking a “child rapist” out of prison and letting him work at a local school. The actual story is far more complex, but it was enough to paint the justice as “soft on crime” and “too dangerous for our children.” Bankrolled by the mountain of coal dollars, the ads had unprecedented reach for a judicial race, and McGraw lost his reelection bid.

Attack ads and big spending aren’t new to politics, but West Virginia had never seen a campaign target a judge like this. Most unusual, though, was the series of events that followed. Three years after Benjamin took his place on the bench, having defeated McGraw at least in part thanks to Blankenship’s attack ads, Blankenship’s appeal of Caperton’s $50 million judgment came before the court, just as expected. Despite a petition that the new justice recuse himself, Benjamin joined a 3–2 vote overturning the original verdict, freeing Blankenship of the multimillion-dollar obligation.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/impeachment-west-virginias-supreme-court/574495/

"And for the Sake of the Kids" :rolleyes:

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

It's nice to see some pushes from the left for the Dems. Their complacency has gotten pretty bad and a lot of them have forgotten what their jobs are supposed to be. Hopefully this trend continues.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Ate My Balls Redux posted:

Where are you even getting this from?
What world do you live in where cops just go around doing poo poo out of the goodness of their hearts?

Of course somebody told them to do it.

cochise
Sep 11, 2011


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Edit: does "high visibility" mean white people

"You're probably going to get paraded around on CSPAN during the 23847329432842 House inquiries. It'll be fun!"

Simplex
Jun 29, 2003

GreyjoyBastard posted:

as much as i'd love to see him dragged bodily out of the white house by the secret service, yeah, he ain't gonna do poo poo other than tweet and speechify

i have some concerns about another uptick in right-wing violence, but 'donald trump barricades himself in the white house / instates martial law / nukes California' are not those concerns

I think people always miss the obvious outcome, that if you give it a week or two Trump will go on 60 Minutes and claim he never wanted to win re-election anyway.

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Rent-A-Cop posted:

What world do you live in where cops just go around doing poo poo out of the goodness of their hearts?

Of course somebody told them to do it.

It's true, a cop witnessing a crime isn't allowed to do anything about it unless someone calls them about it!

It's the goddamn capitol

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Pelosi to Cortez in ten years: All this time I thought I was teaching you, but you were the one teaching me

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Bubbacub posted:

Blankenship really should just gently caress off. The story of how his money really started the erosion of politics in WV always makes my blood boil:


"And for the Sake of the Kids" :rolleyes:

He's an awful narcissistic piece of poo poo. Thankfully he's dumb as poo poo and bad with his money.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Rent-A-Cop posted:

What world do you live in where cops just go around doing poo poo out of the goodness of their hearts?

Of course somebody told them to do it.

Yes, probably a Captain or someone else in the police chain of command, who upon hearing about a two-hundred person protest in the halls of the Capitol Building, said "go break up that protest because that's not authorized." Protestors who refused to leave were then arrested, and they will be released later.

Nancy Pelosi does not personally oversee the DC Police.

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

Ate My Balls Redux posted:

It's true, a cop witnessing a crime isn't allowed to do anything about it unless someone calls them about it!

It's the goddamn capitol

We can both agree that Pelosi has power right? Cops are not going to mess with anything to do with her office without talking to someone. This is how the world works man.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
Big indictment just dropped

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1062421364517335044



:v:

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.


these are my favorite lawsuits

1337JiveTurkey
Feb 17, 2005

axelord posted:

We can both agree that Pelosi has power right? Cops are not going to mess with anything to do with her office without talking to someone. This is how the world works man.

Unless she's specifically there screaming "I just love having hundreds of people in my office" everyone's going to assume that she doesn't want a bunch of protestors largely preventing her office from doing anything useful.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

axelord posted:

Again it's the Minority Leaders office. Cops on their own initiative are not going to clear her office. Someone told them to do it.

Do you have any reason to believe that Nancy Pelosi personally commands the Capitol Police other than that it's the most dramatic and hyperbolic option?

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

axelord posted:

We can both agree that Pelosi has power right? Cops are not going to mess with anything to do with her office without talking to someone. This is how the world works man.
Are you going off of anything besides your general suspicion that Pelosi Bad?

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Pelosi ... In ten years
That's optimistic.

Ate My Balls Redux
Aug 2, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

axelord posted:

We can both agree that Pelosi has power right? Cops are not going to mess with anything to do with her office without talking to someone. This is how the world works man.

Sorry about your broken brain dude, cops have the authority to act on their own instinct and they aren't going to let 200 protestors chill outside a senator's office

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

axelord posted:

We can both agree that Pelosi has power right? Cops are not going to mess with anything to do with her office without talking to someone. This is how the world works man.

You don't know that. They also weren't in her office, and there are definitely other offices nearby. They were in a hallway.

Let's criticize Dems for the bad things they do and not speculate, it undermines credibility. There are plenty more legitimate, substantive things to criticize them for.

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

axelord posted:

We can both agree that Pelosi has power right? Cops are not going to mess with anything to do with her office without talking to someone. This is how the world works man.

That is not how the Capitol Police work, no. My evidence that your personal, unsubstantiated assumptions cannot be trusted is the fact that you weren't aware that the Capitol Police would know about a protest with hundreds of people, even though they are literally stationed in the Capitol.

Because you weren't even aware that they are a distinct police force that only patrols the Capitol.

Like, cops don't need a reason to clear out 200 unapproved protesters from an indoor space. That's not an out-of-ordinary thing for cops to do.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

"Forsooth fellow coppers, a crime most foul! Let us enforce the goode lawe!" - the guys who got in trouble for leaving their guns in the shitter so much their boss got fired

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

1337JiveTurkey posted:

Unless she's specifically there screaming "I just love having hundreds of people in my office" everyone's going to assume that she doesn't want a bunch of protestors largely preventing her office from doing anything useful.

Messing with powerful people is not good for your career if you are a cop. Someone called her office before they took any action. This is just common sense.

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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
OK, some serious news

https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1062434464494747649

EU and NATO is telling the US that its planning to form a common army because America can no longer be trusted to act as its protector

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