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Person Dyslexic posted:This seems like a quick way for them to lose the future generation (lol not like their plans are long-termed at this point anyways) but goddamn... who over the age of 30 thinks any of this is bad? Like I legitimately had to read this 3 times before I realized it was fearmongering. "BUT HOW WILL THEY PAY FOR IT", I scream, as I shovel money into a furnace labeled F-35
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Person Dyslexic posted:This seems like a quick way for them to lose the future generation (lol not like their plans are long-termed at this point anyways) but goddamn... who over the age of 30 thinks any of this is bad? Like I legitimately had to read this 3 times before I realized it was fearmongering. All you're seeing is the graphic. You're missing the sneering voiceover. "Free health care, free college... AND GUMDROPS AND RAINBOWS AND PUPPIES AND PONIES, BROUGHT BY FAIRIES AND SANTA CLAUS, BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THESE THINGS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO PAY FOR WITHOUT MURDERING YOU WITH TAXES"
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Person Dyslexic posted:This seems like a quick way for them to lose the future generation (lol not like their plans are long-termed at this point anyways) but goddamn... who over the age of 30 thinks any of this is bad? Like I legitimately had to read this 3 times before I realized it was fearmongering. The people who marched in Charlottesville probably can be triggered by that image. That is their future voting base.
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Skippy McPants posted:One of those cheap folding dealies you can get at almost any big-box or grocery store. oh lol, i guess i've never seen the folding standup variant more on topic, it looks like there's a feasible "not Pelosi" contingent of conservative libs but there's not actually any proposed alternative, since those same conservatives can't actually command any votes but their own slim minority (if they can do even that) https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1062561933168128000
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I'm no Pelosi fan but the issue with the current people who are talking about voting her out is that they all suck worse than she does.
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Nov 14, 2018 05:40
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Brony Car posted:DARK WOMEN WANT FREE STUFF this is loving EPIC
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skylined! posted:I can't wait until this piece of poo poo collapses and dies. Matt 7:22-23
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mcmagic posted:I'm no Pelosi fan but the issue with the current people who are talking about voting her out is that they all suck worse than she does. Both parties in the House are the same, they both have a screeching right-er wing faction that is a bunch of dumb idiots who suck rear end
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mcmagic posted:I'm no Pelosi fan but the issue with the current people who are talking about voting her out is that they all suck worse than she does. this is true. and when it comes to wrangling votes Pelosi is actually good and those blue dogs probably suck
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Nov 14, 2018 05:47
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Kavros posted:California's close races just keep hammering the Republicans and stacking a grisly legislative toll on top of the GOP above where it already was Someone can correct me, but I think with the recent flip, we just passed the 40 seat mark.
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eke out posted:this is true. and when it comes to wrangling votes Pelosi is actually good and those blue dogs probably suck Being an effective whip doesn't really count for much when the only votes you're applying that skill to are reinstituting PAYGO, not impeaching Donald Trump, and whatever else the Republican party wants.
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Nov 14, 2018 05:51
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Yeah I remember when renewing DACA came up and she... did absolutely gently caress-all and told her caucus to vote however they pleased. Yeah the issue with Pelosi is her politics and her strategy, not her vote counting.
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Nov 14, 2018 05:53
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It's kind of hard to imagine Pelosi not winning the Speakership when the only contender is an Ohioan challenging her from the right and Barbara Lee, a Pelosi ally who seems to get brought up solely because she's the most liberal name in the House leadership (and doesn't seem particularly eager to mount a challenge).
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Nov 14, 2018 05:56
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Tibalt posted:It's kind of hard to imagine Pelosi not winning the Speakership when the only contender is an Ohioan challenging her from the right and Barbara Lee, a Pelosi ally who seems to get brought up solely because she's the most liberal name in the House leadership (and doesn't seem particularly eager to mount a challenge). Barbara Lee isn't running for speaker.
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eke out posted:someone tell me what the heck kind of cheese grater that is the same kind we will use on the chuds when the revolution comes
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mcmagic posted:Barbara Lee isn't running for speaker. But a dozen posters in this thread and at least one major columnist apparently don't know that. edit: Tim Ryan has been trying to replace Pelosi for like 4 years now and is worse in literally every single way if you're progressive, bee tee dubs. Tibalt fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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mcmagic posted:The people who marched in Charlottesville probably can be triggered by that image. That is their future voting base. The people who marched in Charlottesville couldn't elect a dogcatcher. They don't even have enough people to pull off another Charlottesville anymore.
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Not to sounds cynical, but we're probably still at least cycle or two away from seeing any shift in the calcified Dem leadership. Not that I wouldn't love to see a younger and more progressive congressperson take Pelosi's place yesterday, but as Tibalt points one that person doesn't really exist at the moment. For now, I'll make do with having progressives primary every conservative and centrist Dem they can to drag the party left, kicking and screaming if necessary.
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Petr posted:The people who marched in Charlottesville couldn't elect a dogcatcher. They don't even have enough people to pull off another Charlottesville anymore. This is wrong. Every person under 30 who voted for republicans last week is no different than any of those marchers. It's not a majority right now but there aren't "none" of them.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Yeah I remember when renewing DACA came up and she... did absolutely gently caress-all and told her caucus to vote however they pleased. i was talking about whether she has the votes for speaker, not whatever laundry list of grievances you have but, as I am learning, maybe dems.. bad?
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Nov 14, 2018 06:12
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mcmagic posted:This is wrong. Every person under 30 who voted for republicans last week is no different than any of those marchers. I'm glad you're around so I'm not the wrongest person in this thread.
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Nov 14, 2018 06:13
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The return of PayGo is just what is wrong with the Dem party leadership in a nutshell. Surrendering to conservative framing for a stupid piece of "reasonable sounding" policy that no voter other than maybe David Brooks or Morning Joe actually gives a poo poo about.
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Skippy McPants posted:Not to sounds cynical, but we're probably still at least cycle or two away from seeing any shift in the calcified Dem leadership. Not that I wouldn't love to see a younger and more progressive congressperson take Pelosi's place yesterday, but as Tibalt points one that person doesn't really exist at the moment. Yeah, the biggest mistake the Dems can make right now is take their foot off the gas pedal. The moment they do that, 2020 is lost. I'm glad people like AOC got elected. But the Democratic Party also needs a few real ratfuckers like McConnell in positions of power. People who are willing to not just slash the air with the knife a few times in a threatening manner, but stab hard and deep and then twist. That's what I'm hoping the various committees are gonna do with subpoenas. If they back down though, or go for some kind of compromise...
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enraged_camel posted:Yeah, the biggest mistake the Dems can make right now is take their foot off the gas pedal. The moment they do that, 2020 is lost. As bad at this as Pelosi is, Schumer is ten billion times worse.
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McConnell needs to change his handle from Leader McConnel to Princeps McConnell.enraged_camel posted:Yeah, the biggest mistake the Dems can make right now is take their foot off the gas pedal. The moment they do that, 2020 is lost. I.e. a new LBJ
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Nov 14, 2018 06:27
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Heh, do we even have any Democrats tall enough to pull off The Lean?
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mcmagic posted:Yeah the issue with Pelosi is her politics and her strategy, not her vote counting.
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Jack2142 posted:McConnell needs to change his handle from Leader McConnel to Princeps McConnell. how big is beto's schlong, and how many non-sex-partners of his can corroborate?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:how big is beto's schlong, and how many non-sex-partners of his can corroborate? It’s actually pretty nuanced
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selec posted:It’s actually pretty nuanced https://twitter.com/stavvybaby/status/1059247307227570176
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Jack2142 posted:I.e. a new LBJ ya'lls best friend LBJ massively escalated our involvement in the conflict in vietnam, directed the fbi and cia to undermine anti-war protests and wiretap martin luther king, and sent in the army to shoot rioters yeah he got the VRA passed and other stuff, but Obama managed to the ACA and medicaid expansion especially while also promoting the fracking industry, protecting corporate sovereignty and escalating our involvement in military adventurism basically everywhere except for iraq (plus  etc, etc)we kinda need to do better than previous immensely flawed and covered in oceans of blood examples
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Nov 14, 2018 06:53
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mcmagic posted:The people who marched in Charlottesville probably can be triggered by that image. That is their future voting base. Fox switching its advertisements from ensure to soylent is a horizontal movement
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I'm all for socialism, but it would be cool if the socialist wing could stop saying "we need to go back to..." and then naming super loving racist people. Huey Long was actually real bad, guys.
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Skippy McPants posted:Heh, do we even have any Democrats tall enough to pull off The Lean? Finally, de Blasio's time to shine!
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Petr posted:I'm glad you're around so I'm not the wrongest person in this thread. 'Actually Nazis are non-existent' I say, as a nut job shoots up a synagogue. 'Charlottesville could never happen again' as a MAGA chud mails out bombs A Typical Goon fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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atelier morgan posted:ya'lls best friend LBJ massively escalated our involvement in the conflict in vietnam, directed the fbi and cia to undermine anti-war protests and wiretap martin luther king, and sent in the army to shoot rioters That post wasn’t about LBJs politics, it was about his methods, which were unquestionably effective at getting his pet legislation passed.
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atelier morgan posted:ya'lls best friend LBJ massively escalated our involvement in the conflict in vietnam, directed the fbi and cia to undermine anti-war protests and wiretap martin luther king, and sent in the army to shoot rioters  poo poo, i didn't know that, and really, how could I have? especially in this subforum in general and this thread in particular? guess i better not make jokes about him I managed to miss this and it's great*
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