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Just take away his cards phone and cash and drop him in a poor black neighbourhood. He'll probably stroke out the first time the local youth approaches him to say "sup, you lost?"
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Acebuckeye13 posted:If I posted what I wanted to do to Mitch McConnell I'd be banned for getting the secret service called on Lowtax again I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM POSTING THAT!! Convincing him to invest all of his money in a Russian Ponzi scheme, thus driving him into foreclosure and bankruptcy.
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I know it's a joke at this point but once again I find myself stunned at the hypocrisy of Fox. Obama has a marine hold an umbrella? Week long pants-making GBS threads outrage. Basically every national leader of the world at a ceremony for the dead and Trump lies about rain keeping him away? Crickets.
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Nov 14, 2018 14:09
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Good morning! https://twitter.com/topherspiro/status/1062521565550665729?s=21
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bird food bathtub posted:I know it's a joke at this point but once again I find myself stunned at the hypocrisy of Fox. Obama has a marine hold an umbrella? Week long pants-making GBS threads outrage. Basically every national leader of the world at a ceremony for the dead and Trump lies about rain keeping him away? Crickets. Stop pretending that Fox are making any of their arguments in good faith.
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/834483591228882944?s=20 I mean, not that amazing of a prediction, but one a lot of other journalists either missed or pretended to miss so they could look balanced while doing their 23rd piece from a Diner called "Susanne's" and interviewing Frank Dunkelbarger Jr, a coal miner from Big Dig, West Virginia who believes that the president shouldn't be on Twitter so much, but still has faith in the administration's leadership.
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Nov 14, 2018 14:25
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Good morning! Warms the cockles of me heart, it does.
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/834483591228882944?s=20 I think this tweet is better (for emphasis): https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1062685440791244800 It's not that surprising, but a lot of them held their noses and voted for Trump over Hillary. It will be very illuminating how important the Clinton part of this equation is. It's very conceivable that he loses reelection against any halfway decent Democrat candidate.
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There was an analysis I saw a few days ago showing that the blue wave was outperforming HRC in quite a few areas. Now I can't tell you if that's guilt from 2016, new voters, voting enthusiasm, or more likely that the candidate they came out to vote for wasn't Hillary-loving-Clinton.
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Colorado had the second highest voter turnout in the country this year with 62%. 62% for a goddamn midterm election. 2020 is gonna be really interesting at this rate. Highest state turnout was 64%, btw. Minnesota. CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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Nov 14, 2018 15:40
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Remember that Trump got fewer votes than Mitt Romney.
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Torrannor posted:Remember that Trump got fewer votes than Mitt Romney. ... No he didn't?
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McNally posted:... Oh, right. I think it was in the states like Pennsylvania and Ohio where he got fewer votes than Romney, but still managed to flip them from blue to red.
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I mean I *almost* didn't vote in 2016 myself because I was just so unenthusiastic about HRC. I live within easy walking distance of my polling place and my job would allow me to be late/early/whatever. The only reason I bothered was because I knew what was at stake, and elections are important even if you don't give a poo poo about the ticket.
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I voted for the downticket but was, at the time, voting in a very red state, so I had the luxury of writing in whoever for president and knowing that part of the ballot did not matter.
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Nov 14, 2018 16:08
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Highest state turnout was 64%, btw. Minnesota.  keepin democracy alive, you're WELCOME
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Nov 14, 2018 16:18
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Speaking of WWI, that midterm election turnout was higher than any since 1914. Montana turnout was higher than the '16 presidential election, which has never happened before in any state as far as I can tell.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Colorado had the second highest voter turnout in the country this year with 62%. wow. 2020 gonna be nuts
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Nov 14, 2018 16:32
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The smart thing to do* is to run hard on pushing *good* legislation that gets high visibility to everyday people in the house, and then have it poo poo on by the senate and the orangegropenfuhrer. There's enough energy from the midterms that if you can preserve a good fraction of that in 2020 combined with general election turnout you can have a total blowout. *note this is probably not what will happen
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Pryor on Fire posted:Speaking of WWI, that midterm election turnout was higher than any since 1914. Montana turnout was higher than the '16 presidential election, which has never happened before in any state as far as I can tell. Hillary is going to see this and think "I can run again and would beat Trump with those numbers!"
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Nov 14, 2018 16:45
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I wrote in Harambe in 16. No way in hell was I voting for Clinton 2 or angry orange.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:wow. 2020 gonna be nuts I'm like 99% certain that dems will not get their dreamy favorite candidate, and then watch the voter turnout go to poo poo again. I'm genuinely, genuinely praying for this to not happen, but I've been seeing dems on social media throw pre-emptive tantrums over Hillary possibly running again, and I feel like America didn't learn its lesson. If people were saying "Man, I really hope Hillary doesn't run or become the candidate again, but if she does, then welp, I'm voting for her, because that's the hand I was dealt", because that's the very smallest loving lesson to be learned from 2016, I'd think otherwise, but yeah...that's kinda not the feeling I'm getting. At the very least, the results from the midterms have me at least a little more optimistic, but...yeah...
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Vasudus posted:The smart thing to do* is to run hard on pushing *good* legislation that gets high visibility to everyday people in the house, and then have it poo poo on by the senate and the orangegropenfuhrer. There's enough energy from the midterms that if you can preserve a good fraction of that in 2020 combined with general election turnout you can have a total blowout.
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Nov 14, 2018 16:47
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Gonna throw it all away for the mythical center of the road vote
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Nov 14, 2018 16:50
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Here’s an insane idea: what if folks just didn’t vote for her in the primaries????
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i voted for hillary bc she got under putin's skin and the idea of Bernie trying to deal with China, NK, and Russia terrified me. tbf id be tempted to vote for her in 2020 on the "gently caress russia" platform
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Nov 14, 2018 16:55
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Say what you want about Hillary Clinton but literal decades of character assassination by right wing loons have turned the Clinton brand to poison.
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And losing to donald loving trump should've poisoned the "brand" for leftists.
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It's annoying as poo poo to me because I used to be much more of a centrist. Like it or not, there's no place in the middle anymore. Trump has changed the game, probably forever, and there's no putting the genie back in the bottle. When one side is actively trying to kill large portions of the population you don't respond with a reasonable truth-is-in-the-middle milquetoast answer, you burn that motherfucker to the ground. I forgot where I heard it or when, but someone described post-2016 politics as one side sitting down for a nice, strategic game of chess. The other side is outside the building, barricading the door and setting it on fire with gasoline. They're not playing the same game anymore.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Colorado had the second highest voter turnout in the country this year with 62%. Montana actually beat their 2016 turnout, which is batshit insane. And Tester survived! Also, lol Donnie went too far for fox news https://twitter.com/finnygo/status/1062736138111201280?s=19
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It's always been that way though, Trump just made people notice I guess. I mean by being GOP prior to Trump your opinions on LGBT issues and minorities were already well known and thinking that that was worth debating with as a "centrist" says more about the individual than the party. I don't mean that as an insult or anything but Trump is doing exactly what the GOP has wanted for decades, where else would he get the ideas from. It's good that more people are seeing the GOP for what they truly stand for since people are finally learning that centrism is tacit acceptance and welcoming of GOPs poo poo. Like people who say/said fiscally conservative, socially liberal. Like lol that doesn't even make sense. I like helping "group x" but as long as it doesn't cost more than empty platitudes / changing my Facebook profile picture to a rainbow flag
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I'm not saying I'm not guilty of some of the above or whatever but I really worry that people are going to let the GOP off the hook after Trump is gone as if he was anything more than a symptom of their poo poo
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When I hear "fiscally conservative" I picture space race era guys in glasses with slide rulers asking whether a budget is balanced and whether there is a plan. It's my harmless fantasy.
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My opinion on things was that we can change a lot, but we have to do it slowly otherwise the ripple effect on everyday people would be too much and jeopardize the whole thing in the first place. You have to make compromises and sometimes accept intermediate steps before reaching that goal. Then the house tried to kill a bunch of people and John-loving-McCain of all people was the one that stopped it. Intermediate steps are a half-measure that can be weaponized if the other side is willing enough. So gently caress it.
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Is it wrong that I still consider myself a Republican? I've voted DFL in the last three elections, but I still see myself in the frame of fiscal conservation, of free markets, of limiting government growth and keeping taxes as low as possible. What the GOP has done, though, doesn't square with the policies of Bob Dole and Barry Goldwater. Taking the budget hostage and shutting the government down, restricting civil rights, fighting a black president tooth and nail because he's from Chicago. I've seen the GOP turn from the part of business and reasonableness to a suicide cult of Christian Fundamentalism and outright bribery, dying old white men who will happily sell everything out in exchange for a book deal and a punditship on Fox News. Compared to the current GOP leadership, I'm a flaming socialist liberal. But I still consider myself a Republican. I don't know. Maybe I'm having a political identity crisis.
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"frame of fiscal conservation, of free markets, of limiting government growth and keeping taxes as low as possible. " I mean then you should be happy because this is exactly what that looks like
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BigDave posted:Is it wrong that I still consider myself a Republican? I've voted DFL in the last three elections, but I still see myself in the frame of fiscal conservation, of free markets, of limiting government growth and keeping taxes as low as possible. You're a third way democrat. The DSA (Bernie) wing hates you but people with your views run the party.
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mods changed my name posted:"frame of fiscal conservation, of free markets, of limiting government growth and keeping taxes as low as possible. "
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BigDave posted:Is it wrong that I still consider myself a Republican? I've voted DFL in the last three elections, but I still see myself in the frame of fiscal conservation, of free markets, of limiting government growth and keeping taxes as low as possible. (1) You've already figured out that your political positions are not represented by any party in the US. And you're deluding yourself if you think it's just the "current GOP leadership" that's batshit crazy—or were you not around for the Tea Party surge in 2010, not to mention the last 30 years of talk radio? (2) Barry Goldwater was also crazy racist. He campaigned against the Civil Rights Act and whined about Brown v. Board of Education being an abuse of judicial power. There was never a golden era of "small government" advocacy totally divorced from the demonization of government aid recipients via implicit or explicit racial stereotyping. e: also, how old are you? The conscious shift from the "party of business and reasonableness" (which in politics is always more style than substance) to cater to evangelical Protestants and racists happened in the 60s and 70s. Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Nov 14, 2018 |
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