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To be clear, I dont want to come off as telling people to lay off Pelosi from the left, thanks for the explanation folks!
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Groovelord Neato posted:he was a marine who served there so acts as a talking head for how it was hosed up. I have this vision of republicans expecting to use this as a "gotcha!" only for dems to just go, "Yeah, he's a piece of poo poo, but Stormy can get another attorney and the legal problems for Trump aren't going away."
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Retro42 posted:Schumer is he doesn't get a free pass, but for some reason remains in power
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Groovelord Neato posted:he was a marine who served there so acts as a talking head for how it was hosed up. Bastaman's continuing meltdown has been a fascinating trainwreck to watch
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Nov 15, 2018 00:01
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What a stupid goddamn idiot. It feels like something like this was inevitable though. Dude is a walking personality disorder who happened to pick the right targets.
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Retro42 posted:Schumer is I've seen a lot more "gently caress Schumer" from the left than "gently caress Pelosi" since Schumer has very publicly sold the country out for his  . But Pelosi is the spineless turd that can be dislodged, so...
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I hate Schumer a lot more than I hate Pelosi, but I don't think it's surprising more people are talking about Pelosi given that the House just went blue. Schumer's not going to be relevant until 2020, but the way Pelosi handles things will be crucial. Also gently caress Avenatti.
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Random Stranger posted:I've seen a lot more "gently caress Schumer" from the left than "gently caress Pelosi" since Schumer has very publicly sold the country out for his The problem is that the people trying to dislodge her want to replace her with someone a hell of a lot closer to Schumer
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Nov 15, 2018 00:03
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He probably wasn't going to win anyway, but we really needed to snuff out his putative presidential campaign before it got going. So, this works I guess.
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pumpinglemma posted:I hate Schumer a lot more than I hate Pelosi, but I don't think it's surprising more people are talking about Pelosi given that the House just went blue. Schumer's not going to be relevant until 2020, but the way Pelosi handles things will be crucial. it doesn't help that pelosi is immediately mumbling about decorum and bipartisanship and is trying to give republicans more power
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Nov 15, 2018 00:04
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Hopefully this'll also snuff out any future media appearances. Dude was nightmare optics.
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Z. Autobahn posted:Hopefully this'll also snuff out any future media appearances. Dude was nightmare optics. he was actually one of the few people willing to call out how loving useless the democrats have been at actually resisting trump in any capacity, which unfortunately did not disqualify him from being a piece of poo poo himself
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Yinlock posted:he doesn't get a free pass, but for some reason remains in power Have you seen the color of his skin and what's inbetween his legs?
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Yinlock posted:it doesn't help that pelosi is immediately mumbling about decorum and bipartisanship and is trying to give republicans more power You’re going to have to bring some facts with this dumb bullshit. Her recent remarks about bipartisanship have already been debated endlessly and did not suggest what you think they did.
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Z. Autobahn posted:Hopefully this'll also snuff out any future media appearances. Dude was nightmare optics.
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Who the gently caress on the left would give Chuck loving Schumer a pass? E: Other than a one-way pass to the Gulag, that is.
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Random Stranger posted:I've seen a lot more "gently caress Schumer" from the left than "gently caress Pelosi" since Schumer has very publicly sold the country out for his LOL at calling Pelosi "spineless". Compromised, sure, and not far left enough, but spineless?
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Cerebral Bore posted:Who the gently caress on the left would give Chuck loving Schumer a pass? The entire membership of the Dems in the Senate. Just easily got his Minority Leader job again today.
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skylined! posted:You’re going to have to bring some facts with this dumb bullshit. Her recent remarks about bipartisanship have already been debated endlessly and did not suggest what you think they did. bipartisanship is always code for "willing to cave", also she's willing to change the rules to let republicans run around her easier https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/1062810957276160002 Retro42 posted:The entire membership of the Dems in the Senate. Just easily got his Minority Leader job again today. dems aren't the left
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evilweasel how do you think the judge will rule in the CNN/WH case?
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Yinlock posted:bipartisanship is always code for "willing to cave", also she's willing to change the rules to let republicans run around her easier the package is meaningless fluff if you would bother to read it https://gottheimer.house.gov/uploadedfiles/break_the_gridlock_packet.pdf
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Swell
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Groovelord Neato posted:he was a marine who served there so acts as a talking head for how it was hosed up. How presidential
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She's just worried that Dumbledore is angling for that job.
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Crows Turn Off posted:I guarantee at least 90% of the US population has no idea who he is. Mostly agree, but I think his involvement hurt the Kavanaugh proceedings, as one example.
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Nov 15, 2018 00:13
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Retro42 posted:Schumer is He's only been the Democratic leader for 2 years, never in the majority. The real difference between Schumer and Pelosi is that Schumer only needs to win a majority of his caucus. Pelosi, because she wants to be Speaker, needs to win a majority of her caucus and keep the number of people willing to publicly buck her under a certain amount. Anti-Pelosi members are nowhere close to a majority of the House Dems, but they don't need to be.
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exploded mummy posted:the package is meaningless fluff if you would bother to read it lol #1 is literally "to keep me in power so i don't have to answer to those dirty leftists" the entire thing is set up so republicans can hinder her more easily
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Yinlock posted:bipartisanship is always code for "willing to cave", also she's willing to change the rules to let republicans run around her easier Hot takes and twitter links don’t really provide a strong argument to your points that have both been thoroughly debunked in like the last five pages of this thread.
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Lemming posted:How presidential All he had to do was grab her crotch and brag about it on tape and he'd have been elected.
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Yinlock posted:bipartisanship is always code for "willing to cave", also she's willing to change the rules to let republicans run around her easier please consider reading the last couple pages on the rule change it's probably unreasonable to expect you to go find the parts of the thread discussing her use of the b-word and the immediate and total fixation on it to the exclusion of everything else she said in the immediate post-election press engagement, but tldr, it's essentially meaningless and a perfectly reasonable and entirely traditional and precedented club to craft and beat the republicans with, "we wanted to work with them and submitted all these neat bills that are objectively good and then the senate buried them without even bothering to debate, look at these insane ghouls"
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skylined! posted:Hot takes and twitter links don’t really provide a strong argument to your points that have both been thoroughly debunked in like the last five pages of this thread. she's trying to compromise with nazis GreyjoyBastard posted:please consider reading the last couple pages on the rule change they've tried this so many times and it never works because the republicans just claim that the democrats are unwilling to work with them, and the spineless dems respond by giving them everything they want
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why, i mean i get she is from a red state but the majority want this.
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Yinlock posted:she's trying to compromise with nazis  You are being willfully ignorant.
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Schumer is less vulnerable than Pelosi because he only needs a majority of his caucus and the job of senate minority leader is a dead end that nobody wants A rebellion against Pelosi counter-intuitively has a lot more leverage because the Speaker needs a majority of the whole House, so they have to command like 95% of the Dem caucus
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Groovelord Neato posted:he was a marine who served there so acts as a talking head for how it was hosed up. God, they're not going to shut up about this for a month.
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Retro42 posted:The entire membership of the Dems in the Senate. Just easily got his Minority Leader job again today. I said people on the left, buddy 
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So she is gone now? Have they gotten their story straight on this yet?
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Now he's as finally as qualified as Trump to be president Really want to understand how this came to be.
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