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As a southerner we’ve got our fair share of racists but uh, lol both at the idea that a significant amount of southern racists are any kind of neopagan rather than christian, and lol 10x as much at dalael getting onto a dane for his US bias.
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I’d be more likely to move slower and keep my head down if I was worried about incoming crazy noise stones.
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LingcodKilla posted:I’d be more likely to move slower and keep my head down if I was worried about incoming crazy noise stones. But wouldn't really freak you out if all of a sudden you would hear this weird howling? Especially at night, who knows what weird ghosts are roaming around.
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LingcodKilla posted:I’d be more likely to move slower and keep my head down if I was worried about incoming crazy noise stones. Can’t make war without some crazy noises. The usual late Roman battle standard was a goofy looking dragon-shaped windsock that hissed. Aztecs blew skull-shaped whistles that sound like this on special occasions — we don’t know for certain that it was in battle, but if not they were missing a trick.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:As a southerner we’ve got our fair share of racists but uh, lol both at the idea that a significant amount of southern racists are any kind of neopagan rather than christian, and lol 10x as much at dalael getting onto a dane for his US bias. It seems a common denominator on this forum that whatever a few Nazi/white supremacist does, everyone else need to stop it immediately or be branded nazis themselves. Whoever first started this discussion seems to care about his roots and trying to emulate as much of it as possible, and a few others immediately went, "but but nazi do it too" Admitedly, Tias's post wasn't like that and I misunderstood it but there definitely was a "but southern racists people" in someone's post. I guess I conflated the two.
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When it came to gods, Romans had this a super fun approach. See to them, each town or city had a god of that city. More like a protective spirit that shrouded it. So when you sieged a place, you couldn't just barge in. There was a ritual to be performed, an appeasement almost, whereby the Roman priests would promise the god or goddess of that particular place a new home in Rome itself. And after the siege they would actually no bullshit "capture" that god and drag its statute or altar or whatever back to Rome. This led a problem though, because temples were expensive. Sooo, they had to start hot bunking these gods with other gods, and now you've got temples for multiple gods and one god is down in the basement and some of them, poo poo. They didn't even remember where they got them. But they kept them all. But what then, was the actual god of Rome-as-place? Ahhhh, now that's the mystery. We have no idea. Because the name Rome/Roma was just a stand in, like YHWH. The true name of Rome was possibly the name of this god or goddess, and literally a state secret, it was a capital crime to reveal it. Because if outsiders ever learned it, they could summon it and steal it! We're not talking ancient Romulus time myth here either, Sulla had someone executed for it. The most favored suspect was a goddess called Angerona (no Greek analog of which I am aware), who was frequently depicted with a covered mouth or a finger across her own lips. But we don't know for sure, and may never know again, the true name of Rome.
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Let's stop with the weird Nazi pagan derail poo poo now. Fun thing about slings is they don't seem like much but a good hit with a lead slingstone is roughly the same kinetic energy as a .45 pistol. They weren't anything to gently caress with.
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physeter posted:When it came to gods, Romans had this a super fun approach. See to them, each town or city had a god of that city. More like a protective spirit that shrouded it. So when you sieged a place, you couldn't just barge in. There was a ritual to be performed, an appeasement almost, whereby the Roman priests would promise the god or goddess of that particular place a new home in Rome itself. And after the siege they would actually no bullshit "capture" that god and drag its statute or altar or whatever back to Rome. This led a problem though, because temples were expensive. Sooo, they had to start hot bunking these gods with other gods, and now you've got temples for multiple gods and one god is down in the basement and some of them, poo poo. They didn't even remember where they got them. But they kept them all. Do you have some links/source about this? I would like to know more.
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There isn't much about Angerona. She was a very old Italian goddess. Myself, I don't think she was the protector of Rome, just the keeper of the secret name of the city-god, but that's just because I like the idea that the true name of the most hardcore Roman spirit-god is obscured forever. Though if anyone in the world does know it, that person is probably in the Vatican somewhere.
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I know it but you'll have to wire me some cash and I'll whisper it to you.
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Grand Fromage posted:I know it but you'll have to wire me some cash and I'll whisper it to you. Sure what’s your bank account? I also need your SSN to report the payment for pure innocent tax purposes nothing nefarious I promise
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Presumably everybody who knew the name was a high-up priest who was very invested in the Roman state religion, and when the mandatory conversion to Christianity came whatever pagan priests were left took the secret name to their graves without passing it on to a successor first.
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cheetah7071 posted:Presumably everybody who knew the name was a high-up priest who was very invested in the Roman state religion, and when the mandatory conversion to Christianity came whatever pagan priests were left took the secret name to their graves without passing it on to a successor first.
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I really want to believe that the Vatican is sitting on a trove of roman lore for obscure reasons. Lives of Famous Whores WHEN, Holy Father?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I really want to believe that the Vatican is sitting on a trove of roman lore for obscure reasons. I'm still reading it stop bugging me
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HEY GUNS posted:there are hindu nazis my dude i was being conveniently specific in my choice of subset  but yeah i bet there are some shakta Nazis, I just don't know of any specifically probably some of Modi's Hindu Nationalists, if nothing else - Bengal has sort of a shitload of Muslims and is also the demographic center of my stuff Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Nov 15, 2018 |
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skasion posted:Depends on the projectile and the slinger of course, but ancient sources insist that slingers had the range on archers. A sling can carry a projectile surprisingly far, and you do need a lot of skilled craftsmanship and well-trained/properly exercised guys to get high and usable range with bows. Personally, I've had a way harder time learning to be accurate over a long distance with a leather sling than with a bow but I really can't discount how all the bows I've ever shot with are super high quality for what they are.
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Yeah, getting distance and accuracy with a sling, as well as not clobbering yourself in the head, is really hard, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone practicing all their life with it could outdo a roman-era bow by a fair margin.
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well, it took almost three months, but somebody in my Augustan literature class today busted out an "Agrippa... DEEZ NUTS" joke
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Dalael posted:Do you have some links/source about this? I would like to know more. It's discussed here (though it should go without saying that you should take the conclusions with a grain of salt): http://hwlabadiejr.tripod.com/roma.htm (I like the way this article affects a Victorian style despite having been written in 1996 at the earliest. It's a tongue-in-cheek way of acknowledging the silly pedantry inherent in posing the question, I think.)
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They were just really concerned that nobody find out that Rome's true name was Jeffrey.
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It's an interesting article, but consider this: The true name of a city is what everybody calls it. I mean, the city I was born is has the full name of "the town of Our Lady of the Angels" but nobody calls it that, its true name is simply Los Angeles.
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Guys the Answer to the secret name is clearly Reme
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Emor 
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Rome's secret name: Detroit.
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Tunicate posted:Rome's secret name:
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skasion posted:Can’t make war without some crazy noises. The usual late Roman battle standard was a goofy looking dragon-shaped windsock that hissed. Aztecs blew skull-shaped whistles that sound like this on special occasions — we don’t know for certain that it was in battle, but if not they were missing a trick. See also the carnyx.
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Hoboken delenda est
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Tias posted:Emor Amor  Wait, amor is Spanish for love. Holy poo poo the secret was inside of us all along 
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Iirc the ancients themselves sometimes connected the name of Rome with the Greek ῥώμη (rômê), "strength". It's spelled the exactly the same as Rome in Attic Greek. It still may have been a folk etymology.
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sullat posted:It's an interesting article, but consider this: The true name of a city is what everybody calls it. I mean, the city I was born is has the full name of "the town of Our Lady of the Angels" but nobody calls it that, its true name is simply Los Angeles.
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Troy, surely? 
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Rome’s secret name is La Paz
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Troy II - We built a smaller gate.
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Rome's secret name is Istanbul
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FreudianSlippers posted:Rome's secret name is Istanbul Istanbul's secret name is Chicago
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skasion posted:Depends on the projectile and the slinger of course, but ancient sources insist that slingers had the range on archers. this is interesting as hell more info please
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I'm one of the guys who would totally have underestimated slingers and died from having been hit smack in the face.
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Rome used to be a flood prone marsh. Reading between the lines its real name is clearly Atlantis.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Rome's secret name is Istanbul Helsinki, duh
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