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Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

I’m hype as hell for The Ballad of Buster Scruggs tomorrow

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May 11, 2008

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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

I’m hype as hell for The Ballad of Buster Scruggs tomorrow

Of course the Coens release a western during goddamn Noirvember.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
I'm looking forward to that! Sisters Brothers was kinda disappointing, not nearly weird enough.

2nding and 3rding Assassination of Jesse James, what a pretty and sad picture.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Theresa May might get :auspol:ed

And leave some constantly apologising turd in her stead as pm

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
RDR2 rules, but you kinda have to enjoy what R* been doing since GTA4 days. That said, the clunky controls are something I wish I didn't had to bear with.
The best and probably worst game of all time would be something that married R* near bullheadedness adherence to fake realism and Bethesda's "We track all the dish objects on the world in case you want to carry them around for 100hours" design goals.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I’m hoping the DUP pull out of the coalition and burn this whole thing down

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Escobarbarian posted:

I’m hoping the DUP pull out of the coalition and burn this whole thing down

Doing so would be a tacit concession to Corbyn though.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.
Not a one of you mentioned Duck, You Sucker!.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
I recall around 2015/6(?) talking to English folk back in London and some hand wringing around how they didn't want to lose their cultural identity because Europe was so homogenous and like lol? do you know anything beyond Calais, or heck, half of your people don+t even call themselves English anyhow.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Escobarbarian posted:

I’m hoping the DUP pull out of the coalition and burn this whole thing down

Never put your faith in the slaughtereous traitor Irish

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
RDR2’s gameplay is really interesting, considering they made a game that’s intentionally slow-paced and methodical for a lowest common denominator audience, but it really is bullshit that they already did the “this is a story about the end of the West!” thing and now they’re pulling a prequel that is... still about that?...

It gets by on the fact that Arthur’s a great character, but a lot about RDR1 was lightning in a bottle that I don’t think you can really recapture. I do hope this is the last we see of anyone from the Van Der Linde gang in the franchise.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pirate Jet posted:

RDR2’s gameplay is really interesting, considering they made a game that’s intentionally slow-paced and methodical for a lowest common denominator audience, but it really is bullshit that they already did the “this is a story about the end of the West!” thing and now they’re pulling a prequel that is... still about that?...

It gets by on the fact that Arthur’s a great character, but a lot about RDR1 was lightning in a bottle that I don’t think you can really recapture. I do hope this is the last we see of anyone from the Van Der Linde gang in the franchise.

Because 2 isn't about the end of the west except as a backdrop for an ad hoc family unit disintegrating in the wake of bad decision after bad decision

As opposed to the first game where it was explicitly John's story on a larger scale

You ninnies

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
Honestly being a cowboy would suck, thay's like a several thousand year old profesion were you look at animals all day

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.
I was interested in Red Dead Redemption 2 because you can go around loving up Klan members.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
also rdr2 rules because its explicitly about stealing from the rich and leaving the poor alone and helping out where you can

rockstar being the devil sucks rear end but still

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
KKK murdering is very satisfying. But also if you just stay back and watch them they usually end up accidentally burning themselves to death anyway.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

CPL593H posted:

I was interested in Red Dead Redemption 2 because you can go around loving up Klan members.

I haven’t run into them yet, but I did beat the poo poo out of a guy handing out eugenics pamphlets.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Escobarbarian posted:

KKK murdering is very satisfying. But also if you just stay back and watch them they usually end up accidentally burning themselves to death anyway.

I don't know how to link it here because it was a facebook video but I saw a great one where a guy slaughtered a Klan meeting while the theme song from Friends was playing.

edit: I'm pretty sure it was posted in the h.bomberguy appreciation group. Because people made that a group.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

CPL593H posted:

I was interested in Red Dead Redemption 2 because you can go around loving up Klan members.

reading the different stories people have about that one scene is cool. there was one guy who said he ended up feeding the lead klan guy to a gator.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Escobarbarian posted:

KKK murdering is very satisfying. But also if you just stay back and watch them they usually end up accidentally burning themselves to death anyway.

theres a different one where its two dudes carrying a cross and their boss yelling at them not to let it touch the ground

someone said they shot their gun in the air, they dropped the cross on themselves and died, and then he hogtied the boss and dragged him to the swamp with some bait and fed him to animals

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

The Peccadillo posted:

Honestly being a cowboy would suck, thay's like a several thousand year old profesion were you look at animals all day

Wasn't the traditional cowboy from history hired pretty much to kill any natives who originally held stakes on the land and to steal their neighboring farmers' livestock?

From what I read, they were basically hired goons who are partly responsible for the genocide of the native population here in the States.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

Bonus.

The Peccadillo posted:

Honestly being a cowboy would suck, thay's like a several thousand year old profesion were you look at animals all day

That's the thing with Westerns: you have to be a really clever writer to make the 19th century West not seem mind-numbingly boring without relying on extreme violence. Deadwood does this well.

The Sisters Brothers too. For the most part the violent scenes were brutal but also blasé. The scenes where people aren't murdering or fighting and instead trying to connect with each other and try to create something better (socialism) are the most thrilling.

This reminds me I still have to see McCabe and Mrs Miller.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

John Leguizamo throws around the numbers of how many millions of natives that were murdered during America's expansion in his new Netflix special. It's pretty hosed up and was a sobering moment for me in realizing how much this country has always hated us.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Budgie Jumping posted:

That's the thing with Westerns: you have to be a really clever writer to make the 19th century West not seem mind-numbingly boring without relying on extreme violence. Deadwood does this well.

coincidentally like 90% of rdr2 is about the slow quiet parts of life punctuated by brief moments of intense violence

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I

ruddiger posted:

Wasn't the traditional cowboy from history hired pretty much to kill any natives who originally held stakes on the land and to steal their neighboring farmers' livestock?

From what I read, they were basically hired goons who are partly responsible for the genocide of the native population here in the States.

Cowboys are a type of worker that have really varied class functions depending on a breadth of circumstances. The archetypical cowboy story, the Virginian, is a story that casts corporate mercenaries who murdered independent ranchers as tragic heroes whose sacrifices make them rejected by society. (Granted, it’s also likely that those independent ranchers were violent towards first nations peoples originally!)

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Honestly gens 3-6 were kind of a slump

I'm interested to see what gen 8 looks like with a new director on a console

I played lot of Pearl owing to the fact that it was on the DS and thus around long enough for me to be really into it, drop it, and then go back and do a lot of the post game stuff years later and get into it a bit again before another game came out. That relatively long lifespan also meant they did a lot of distribution events for the game, so I've got a bunch of legendaries and such on that cart.

I loved the puppet animation they finally added to battles in Black/White and thought it was funny/sad how all that work immediately got obsoleted by finally going to 3D models right after.

For a hot minute I was entranced by the ridiculousness of being able to transfer monsters all the way from Gamecube to 3DS, but then I got bored and also I only have Emerald and can't use the Jirachi bonus disc without Ruby or Sapphire, and old Pokémon games hold their value and online is plagued with bootlegs.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

does RDR2 accurately reflect that like a quarter to a third of cowboys were black?

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
YTotD is the 2009 documentary Taqwacore: The Birth of Punk Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSKRaehQheU

Not to be confused with The Taqwacores, the 2010 fiction film adapted from the 2003 Michael Muhammad Knight novel of the same name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1kDYlbQgOw

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Gripweed posted:

does RDR2 accurately reflect that like a quarter to a third of cowboys were black?

You really only interact with your gang of outlaws, which has a black guy in it, and the rest of the characters are either one off weirdos or townsfolk or both

So

Maybe?

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Gripweed posted:

does RDR2 accurately reflect that like a quarter to a third of cowboys were black?

Yes, actually, if not more. The reason why most people assume cowboys were white is from movies and novels, written by or starring white people.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Franchescanado posted:

Yes, actually, if not more. The reason why most people assume cowboys were white is from movies and novels, written by or starring white people.

That's genuinely cool. I hope it comes to the Switch

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Gripweed posted:

That's genuinely cool. I hope it comes to the Switch

lol

Coaaab
Aug 6, 2006

Wish I was there...

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

I’m hype as hell for The Ballad of Buster Scruggs tomorrow
Movie weekend is gonna be a bit complicated for me, I was too lazy to catch Burning at my nearest theater, and now it's being removed after about a week, so I have to go to a theater farther out to watch it. The good news is that 1) there was another thing I wanted to see within proximity of that farther theater, and 2) I can use my moviepass (remember that?) for the showing over there. Sunday, I'm gonna see if I can get into a screening of An Elephant Sitting Still.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
im literally only in chapter three but the mission where you go to a suffragette rally because a guy is afraid his girlfriends family will freak out over her being there and wants to stop them, only to find out you don't give a poo poo and think women voting is a good idea rules a lot

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

K. Waste posted:

YTotD is the 2009 documentary Taqwacore: The Birth of Punk Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSKRaehQheU

Not to be confused with The Taqwacores, the 2010 fiction film adapted from the 2003 Michael Muhammad Knight novel of the same name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1kDYlbQgOw

Oh hell yeah. I really liked Heavy Metal in Baghdad, this looks like a great companion piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjC3VtR8GzY

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Gripweed posted:

That's genuinely cool.

There's an episode of the podcast called The Dollop on black cowboys that's pretty good. Basically land grants were so cheap, and there was a law about squatting on land to gain ownership, and POC having a hard time finding homes and employment (plus the affordability) made it a huge opportunity for them.

It's been a year since I heard the episode, so I may have some facts wrong, but there are a ton of great stories about that point in history. If I can find it, I'll post it for you, or maybe another goon with better memory might know the one I'm talking about.

There's a Dollop thread in RGD you could ask in, if you're interested

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Gripweed posted:

That's genuinely cool. I hope it comes to the Switch

It has severe performance issues on the base PS4 and Xbone, loving :lol: at the idea of it being able to run on a Switch.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

RDR2 comes on two loving Blu-ray discs.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Who are the most prominent black cowboys in Hollywood movies? Off the top of my head there's the guy who's in charge of the gang that gets shot by Charles Bronson at the start of Once Upon a Time In the West and Danny Glover in Silverado but I probably haven't seen enough westerns.

Was the lead in The Great Silence black or was he Native American? I can't remember.

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May 11, 2008

New York
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Wheat Loaf posted:

Who are the most prominent black cowboys in Hollywood movies? Off the top of my head there's the guy who's in charge of the gang that gets shot by Charles Bronson at the start of Once Upon a Time In the West and Danny Glover in Silverado but I probably haven't seen enough westerns.

Was the lead in The Great Silence black or was he Native American? I can't remember.

Blazing Saddles :v:

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