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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Delayed to tomorrow Is that good, bad, or meh?
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cities debasing themselves in a bid to get an Amazon HQ is pretty loving gross maybe if u taxed Amazon like the behemoth they are you could use that money to invest in your city! what a thought!
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Nov 15, 2018 20:15
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Your Taint posted:Is that good, bad, or meh? It's probably just because of the snow
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Nov 15, 2018 20:16
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Are we talking about laughing at other people? Because I still feel a warm breath of shame from when I got scared about a tornado in Kansas. It was an F1 a couple miles away and my friends acted like I was being scared of a rabbit.
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Soothing Vapors posted:There are many reason to poo poo on Sasse but this is a dumb one. He's on the upper edge of gen x and was a teenager in the 80s, "dude" is not a millennial invention It doesn't actually work like that. It's more that there are more conservative generations and more liberal generations. Most adults don't change much. Edit: beaten. Lycus fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Nov 15, 2018 |
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Nov 15, 2018 20:18
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Carlosologist posted:cities debasing themselves in a bid to get an Amazon HQ is pretty loving gross But if they were going to be taxed like that they wouldn't move there. But you should give the breaks you were willing to give them to stimulate small business growth or something.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:20
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Carlosologist posted:cities debasing themselves in a bid to get an Amazon HQ is pretty loving gross You get that the reason they give perks to attract stuff is because they then get the tax money right? That is the literal whole concept of this.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:22
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Amazon got literally 2x times the offers they got from New York and DC at other locations and still didn't go there, because it was never about the incentives. They already knew where they were going before they started this little grovel-fest. It was simply a matter of eating the public's lunch because they knew they could.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:25
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Amazon got literally 2x times the offers they got from New York and DC at other locations and still didn't go there, because it was never about the incentives. They already knew where they were going before they started this little grovel-fest. It was simply a matter of eating the public's lunch because they knew they could. Boy if I'm an active voter in some of these cities that debased themselves only to be turned down by Bezos in the end, I name and shame the electeds responsible until the next elections and give them the heave ho. What whores.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:26
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Mantis42 posted:Yep, most people's partisan affiliation is set during their early adulthood and never changes. The biggest conservative cohort is the late Boomer/early GenXers who came of age during the Reagan Era. Them and the Silents, who came of age during the collapse of the New Deal Coalition during Vietnam and were turned on conservativism by Goldwater and Nixon. I'm an early X'er who grew up under that gently caress Ronald Reagan and I can't explain how people who were teenagers at that time could grow up to be conservative assholes. I remember Watergate and Vietnam, and the Cold War and goddamn there wasn't a single bright spot to the "conservative" movement from that time all the way up to right now. Back in high school I had a pin on my jacket with an unflattering caricature of Reagan and the words "SENILE DRIBBLING FOOL" and only one classmate had a negative reaction to it and I told him he could pound sand.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:26
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Amazon got literally 2x times the offers they got from New York and DC at other locations and still didn't go there, because it was never about the incentives. They already knew where they were going before they started this little grovel-fest. It was simply a matter of eating the public's lunch because they knew they could. The new aristocracy's favorite pastime is mocking their own subjects.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:26
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Pelosi should throw her support behind someone more visibly progressive than her but less publicly demonized and famous. That way she is not "ousted", people who pledged against her can honor that pledge and kind of have to vote for the only viable candidate.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:29
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The new Foreign Minister of Brazil believes climate change is a Marxist plot. Trivia: Did you know Amazon was named after a now extinct rainforest?
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Nov 15, 2018 20:30
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Pelosi should throw her support behind someone more visibly progressive than her but less publicly demonized and famous. That way she is not "ousted", people who pledged against her can honor that pledge and kind of have to vote for the only viable candidate. She should go back in time 8 years and start grooming this hypothetical person for the position
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https://twitter.com/jlemonsk/status/1062477197469011968
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Nov 15, 2018 20:35
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:You get that the reason they give perks to attract stuff is because they then get the tax money right? That is the literal whole concept of this. Theoretically but in practice the tax revenue is often the first thing that gets handed back to the corp.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:36
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Dick Trauma posted:I'm an early X'er who grew up under that gently caress Ronald Reagan and I can't explain how people who were teenagers at that time could grow up to be conservative assholes. I remember Watergate and Vietnam, and the Cold War and goddamn there wasn't a single bright spot to the "conservative" movement from that time all the way up to right now. Reagan benefitted from the end of an inflationary cycle (Ford, Carter), he also probably screwed up Carter's situation with the Iran Hostage situation via some back-channel nonsense. Note the date when the Hostages were released, January 20, 1981, same date as Reagan's inauguration. Also, as a former marketing person, "Morning In America" is the 2nd best political ad ever created IMHO. Oh, and Reagan pretty much started the end of the middle class in the USA.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:37
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Lemming posted:She should go back in time 8 years and start grooming this hypothetical person for the position It's not like anyone she chooses would be less prepared than Marcia Fudge or Tim fuckin Ryan. I can think of someone she was grooming who is relatively progressive - Joe Crowley. How about him? John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Nov 15, 2018 |
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Nov 15, 2018 20:38
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:It's not like anyone she chooses would be less prepared than Marcia Fudge or Tim fuckin Ryan I meant it as a broader criticism of Democrats that they've put zero visible effort in getting younger generations of candidates more visibility to get ready for when they get the torch passed to them
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Nov 15, 2018 20:40
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It's almost like Republicans have to cheat constantly to win. The "Silent Majority!"
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Nov 15, 2018 20:41
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Lemming posted:I meant it as a broader criticism of Democrats that they've put zero visible effort in getting younger generations of candidates more visibility to get ready for when they get the torch passed to them Well, when they try, they drool on themselves in a widely televised event
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Nov 15, 2018 20:43
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Lemming posted:I meant it as a broader criticism of Democrats that they've put zero visible effort in getting younger generations of candidates more visibility to get ready for when they get the torch passed to them As if anyone Pelosi started working with wouldn't be immediately labeled a bad dem.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:43
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*sing song voice* my state is garbage!
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Nov 15, 2018 20:46
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VideoGameVet posted:Reagan benefitted from the end of an inflationary cycle (Ford, Carter), he also probably screwed up Carter's situation with the Iran Hostage situation via some back-channel nonsense. Note the date when the Hostages were released, January 20, 1981, same date as Reagan's inauguration. I'm curious which ad you think was the best one
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Nov 15, 2018 20:47
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2020 is going to be extremely dirty with the GOP trying to keep its gerrymanders in place. At some level they're probably far more concerned about that than keeping Dumbass in office.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:47
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TulliusCicero posted:It's almost like Republicans have to cheat constantly to win. There's some chud in the comments arguing the graphic is misleading because Milwaukee and Madison skew the numbers by having more people.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:50
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Winning the governor's race was critical. As irritating as this state house and congressional result was, winning the governor's mansion means the Dems will be able to force a "fair" map for the next decade in Wisconsin for the 2022 elections.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:51
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Guze posted:There's some chud in the comments arguing the graphic is misleading because Milwaukee and Madison skew the numbers by having more people. Nothing more undemocratic than lots of people coexisting in the same tough geographical area
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Nov 15, 2018 20:52
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Via Voxquote:Crow, an Army veteran who recently flipped a Colorado congressional district blue, also reiterated he’s an unequivocal no to Pelosi. Remember this dude? Remember when he was in the news for a little while and everybody forgot about the humdinger he was involved in for the party primaries? That's Steny Hoyer's boy.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:52
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If the poo poo Dems manage to coup Pelosi in favor of some piece of poo poo “identity politics are bad, let’s compromise with Republicans” jackass I’m going to be pissed. Pelosi is many things but at least she can more or less lead the coalition to minimize harm while in control of only the House.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:54
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The Glumslinger posted:I'm curious which ad you think was the best one This is, IMHO, the greatest political ad of all time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k
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Nov 15, 2018 20:55
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The Glumslinger posted:I'm curious which ad you think was the best one Daisy, perhaps?
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Amazon got literally 2x times the offers they got from New York and DC at other locations and still didn't go there, because it was never about the incentives. They already knew where they were going before they started this little grovel-fest. It was simply a matter of eating the public's lunch because they knew they could. This is a pretty normal part of doing business now. The entire visual effects industry has been moved around the country and abroad via subsidies. Canada pays 50% of vfx companies wages for them to make Avengers 4 up there with no back end participation. Literally all they care about it the "jobs" figure. Same with the Foxcon plant or a dozen other large interests. It's a tricky situation because as it becomes easier to move business around the country and world everyone gets caught up in this race to the bottom. It is self reinforcing as well because as one company gains a competitive advantage by extorting the public others have to follow the example. The odd thing about the Amazon move to Queens is that usually the community that will directly benefit from the investment helps the politicians sell the graft. In Vancouver everyone there will argue with you until they are blue in the face that their taxes paying a 50% wage subsidy is totally above board and fair and just "balances" out competitive disadvantage. Here the local community is saying gently caress you to Amazon because they see that there will likely be no upside for them. In essence they will directly subsidize the business to move in and displace them out of their community.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:55
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This is all a New Coke style plan to get the "Dems are bad" people to come around to defending Pelosi and Schumer.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:55
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It's really hard to fuckin believe we basically have a democratic Freedom Caucus holding us hostage but there you are
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Nov 15, 2018 20:56
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Daisy is hands down the most effective political ad of all time but I think the recent “we’re all [candidate]’s siblings and we’re here to tell you he’s trash” ad was probably the funniest. Did that guy lose, by the way?
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Rigel posted:Winning the governor's race was critical. As irritating as this state house and congressional result was, winning the governor's mansion means the Dems will be able to force a "fair" map for the next decade in Wisconsin for the 2022 elections. I'm not sure what they need to override a veto, but it looks like they might have it if it's the same as the federal override level 
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Nov 15, 2018 20:56
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Z. Autobahn posted:Schumer. No.
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Nov 15, 2018 20:56
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Z. Autobahn posted:This is all a New Coke style plan to get the "Dems are bad" people to come around to defending Pelosi and Schumer. I’m totally willing to defend Pelosi from the right but Schumer may be a bridge too far lol.
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