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Rent-A-Cop posted:As much as sending Governor Skeletor to the Senate sucks I can't muster any sympathy for Bill Nelson. A wafted fart of a man who didn't bother to campaign. Yeah I loving hate Rick Scott and his continued success in politics continues to baffle me, but Bill Nelson seemed about as exciting as a wet napkin. I am still a bit in shock that Gillum lost but racists gonna be racist. edit: tax 
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what's dumb about florida's ballot measure was it didn't re-enfranchise all felons. if you did your time you should get your vote back i don't care what the crime was. (i mean you should never lose the vote but talking bout flo rida.)
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Nov 16, 2018 16:45
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Groovelord Neato posted:what's dumb about florida's ballot measure was it didn't re-enfranchise all felons. if you did your time you should get your vote back i don't care what the crime was. (i mean you should never lose the vote but talking bout flo rida.) not reenfranchising murderers and (felony) sex criminals is really the least of our worries in florida
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Nov 16, 2018 16:46
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In retrospect I’m really glad that McCain held onto his Senate seat for so long even when he was clearly incapable because based on how tight the election was for the one open seat I highly doubt the Dems would have picked up two. There would have been a lot of dumbass split ballot “balance” voters and the prospect of having to defend two seats may have encouraged additional Republican turnout. So yeah, we’re going to need that seat in 2020.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:47
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Prophecy0 posted:Yeah I loving hate Rick Scott and his continued success in politics continues to baffle me, but Bill Nelson seemed about as exciting as a wet napkin. I am still a bit in shock that Gillum lost but racists gonna be racist. His success is exclusive to Florida in the same way Chris Christie was exclusively successful in New Jersey
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Nov 16, 2018 16:47
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Groovelord Neato posted:what's dumb about florida's ballot measure was it didn't re-enfranchise all felons. if you did your time you should get your vote back i don't care what the crime was. (i mean you should never lose the vote but talking bout flo rida.) That's an opinion you can hold reasonably, but probably not something that would have passed in a million years. Re-enfranchising almost every second black man in the state is still extremely good.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:48
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Rent-A-Cop posted:As much as sending Governor Skeletor to the Senate sucks I can't muster any sympathy for Bill Nelson. A wafted fart of a man who didn't bother to campaign. How does a guy who is ON TAPE taking the 5th about 150 times in a Medicare fraud case get elected to public office once? Let alone 3 times.... Shammypants posted:His success is exclusive to Florida in the same way Chris Christie was exclusively successful in New Jersey Christie won his first and 2nd elections BEFORE the big scandal broke though.
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Prophecy0 posted:Yeah I loving hate Rick Scott and his continued success in politics continues to baffle me, but Bill Nelson seemed about as exciting as a wet napkin. I am still a bit in shock that Gillum lost but racists gonna be racist. rick scott has giant pockets; when you can afford to dump a good 20 million of your own cash into ad buys it goes a long way
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Nov 16, 2018 16:49
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rick scott personally committed more welfare fraud than every other american combined.
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The_Donald reacts rationally and accepts the rulingquote:Hilarious we are a banana republic
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Nov 16, 2018 16:50
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For some reason Scott was able to make major inroads with the Hispanic community.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:50
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Groovelord Neato posted:what's dumb about florida's ballot measure was it didn't re-enfranchise all felons. if you did your time you should get your vote back i don't care what the crime was. (i mean you should never lose the vote but talking bout flo rida.) It's a compromise to avoid political attacks on the measure that would have risked sinking the whole thing. It didn't have any real moral justification but it had a very strong political justification in that including murderers and sexual offenders ran a real risk of defeat.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:51
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:For some reason Scott was able to make major inroads with the Hispanic community. It's because he put a lot of effort into it, and Nelson was an incredibly  campaigner.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:51
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The_Donald reacts rationally and accepts the ruling They'll be rejoicing over Florida before long.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:52
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mcmagic posted:How does a guy who is ON TAPE taking the 5th about 150 times in a Medicare fraud case get elected to public office once? Let alone 3 times....
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Nov 16, 2018 16:52
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evilweasel posted:It's because he put a lot of effort into it, and Nelson was an incredibly Yet he got more votes than Gillum did who was the opposite heh. https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1063227563387088897 New Founding Fathers.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:53
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One of the big problems that Florida Dems face is that a huge contingent of their base are conservative Hispanics who are getting turned off by the increasingly progressive policies that the party is beginning to push, especially economically. The ingrained hatred of Castro’s regime and the GOP’s fear mongering about Dems wanting to turn Florida into Venezuela resonated well. I don’t know how Dems can deal with that without compromising their values.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:58
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Teddybear posted:Yeah, sounds like the ballot design was the cause of the massive undervote and, in all likelihood, the loss of the senate seat. Florida, man. Don't really see anything wrong with the ballot. It sucks that people ignored it because it was in the lower corner, but it is clearly visible. I don't think any election should be given priority of placement over another, it should be basically randomized
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Nov 16, 2018 16:59
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Don't really see anything wrong with the ballot. It sucks that people ignored it because it was in the lower corner, but it is clearly visible. I don't think any election should be given priority of placement over another, it should be basically randomized it goes against fairly well-established best practices in ballot design
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Nov 16, 2018 17:01
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:One of the big problems that Florida Dems face is that a huge contingent of their base are conservative Hispanics who are getting turned off by the increasingly progressive policies that the party is beginning to push, especially economically. The ingrained hatred of Castro’s regime and the GOP’s fear mongering about Dems wanting to turn Florida into Venezuela resonated well. I don’t know how Dems can deal with that without compromising their values.
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Nov 16, 2018 17:01
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:One of the big problems that Florida Dems face is that a huge contingent of their base are conservative Hispanics who are getting turned off by the increasingly progressive policies that the party is beginning to push, especially economically. The ingrained hatred of Castro’s regime and the GOP’s fear mongering about Dems wanting to turn Florida into Venezuela resonated well. I don’t know how Dems can deal with that without compromising their values. Isn't that older Cuban population really small?
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Nov 16, 2018 17:02
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Don't really see anything wrong with the ballot. It sucks that people ignored it because it was in the lower corner, but it is clearly visible. I don't think any election should be given priority of placement over another, it should be basically randomized It’s objectively a flaw but if you had handed me that ballot a week ago I would have seen absolutely nothing wrong with it even if I was outright told that there was a flaw somewhere in it and I tried to find it. It simply would not have occurred to me.
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Nov 16, 2018 17:02
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mcmagic posted:Yet he got more votes than Gillum did who was the opposite heh. Mitch the Bitch making a speech.
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Nov 16, 2018 17:04
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Munkeymon posted:Hope is a lie again huh lol what? Florida was always a longshot. Sinema winning + the House wave was fantastic. Anything in Florida would have been an extremely pleasant surprise but I wasn't counting on it. Wait til next go around when 1.1 mil more people have the ability to vote again.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:And another huge chunk is pro-cop, anti-taxes, homophobic, racist geriatrics from New York. That’s always an issue but if the conservative voting bloc in Florida was just isolated to the FYGM retirees and the racist swamp people then the Dems would be able to easily overcome that. The big problem is that the Hispanic population in Florida is simply not a reliable Democratic contingent like it is in the rest of the nation because they lean more conservative. As sad as it is to say there’s a good chance that Gillum’s openly progressive campaign, combined with the racism, was enough to sink him. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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Nov 16, 2018 17:06
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Bill Nelson voted for PROMESA, which may be just the most unpopular bill among Puerto Ricans.
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Chilichimp posted:lol, this guy owns. I just want to re-iterate that this tweet is the most Perd Hapley thing I've seen outside of Parks and Rec and it's amazing. Also, whoever had the notion that "Thank god for Arizona." isn't ever said unironically obviously doesn't live in Arizona. There are a lot of people here who voted a billion times to re-elect Arpaio after all.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Don't really see anything wrong with the ballot. It sucks that people ignored it because it was in the lower corner, but it is clearly visible. I don't think any election should be given priority of placement over another, it should be basically randomized It’s something like 3% of votes cast there didn’t pick someone in that race versus 1.7%(I think) the rest of the state. That does equal enough votes to change the results of the election though. Randomizing wouldn’t have helped any race in that spot because they basically put that particular race in a optical/mental dead zone on the ballot (only race under instructions). How many people do you know that would read enough of the instructions to get the gist and then move to the next page?
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Deified Data posted:They'll be rejoicing over Florida before long. I don't understand I thought the dems were going to steal the election???
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Nov 16, 2018 17:08
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Electric Phantasm posted:I don't understand I thought the dems were going to steal the election??? all of the attention that donald trump, praise be upon him, focused on the race prevented democrats from stealing it
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Nov 16, 2018 17:10
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Electric Phantasm posted:I don't understand I thought the dems were going to steal the election??? Poor graphic design wins the day yet again
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Retro42 posted:It’s something like 3% of votes cast there didn’t pick someone in that race versus 1.7%(I think) the rest of the state. That does equal enough votes to change the results of the election though. I can't imagine someone who wouldn't! That's frustrating.
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mcmagic posted:How does a guy who is ON TAPE taking the 5th about 150 times in a Medicare fraud case get elected to public office once? Let alone 3 times.... Did anyone try cutting some ads with the tape? Sounds like it would have been worth a couple mil in ads at least.
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I just can’t wrap my mind around how someone outright forgets that they need to vote for Senate.
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Nov 16, 2018 17:17
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DLC Inc posted:lol what? Florida was always a longshot. I was hoping that Florida's general incompetence w.r.t. elections meant there would be a machine fault.
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Chilichimp posted:I'm having a hard time imagining a COUNTY having 6 loving congressional districts in it. poo poo man, the metropolitan area of Atlanta has six congressional districts.
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Nov 16, 2018 17:18
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pookel posted:My whole state has one. Can't gerrymand that fucker
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I just can’t wrap my mind around how someone outright forgets that they need to vote for Senate. Rent-A-Cop posted:geriatrics from New York. Forget it Jake, it's Broward County.
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Electric Phantasm posted:I don't understand I thought the dems were going to steal the election??? lol just going by the established Trump playbook, claim the system is rigged until you win - if you lose it's their fault, if you win you won despite the opposition systematically opposing you.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I just can’t wrap my mind around how someone outright forgets that they need to vote for Senate.
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