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SatoshiMiwa posted:Except unless your the top guy the WWE money is the same and the merch money may not be as much. And NXT still doesn't pay you what you can do on the indies They won't spend it on talent to use, but they would spend it on talent for spite.
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I don't see Vince being Gung-ho on blowing his salary structure up. He wants to control the wrestling business but he wants to do it on what he wants to pay. Sadly most of the talent seems to think that's okay and signs NXT level deals on the vague hope they could get Main event money....
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RealFoxy posted:They're becoming WCW paying people to sit at home Donovan Dijak has been in NXT for over a year.
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Web Jew.0 posted:Donovan Dijak has been in NXT for over a year. There were also guys that were right about to hit their peak and got scooped up to do nothing in WWE like Gran Metallic Or guys that should have had a good retirement tour before signing but did anyway, like KENTA.
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Dijak had a 5 star match last year and turned a crowd who had no idea who he was against Adam Cole at an NXT show I went to. They just need to put him on TV.
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This just reminds me how NXT made me miss La Sombra and the main roster then made me miss Andrade Cien Almas.
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Nov 18, 2018 08:06
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Yes but his appearances are very limited.
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Incessant Excess posted:Yes but his appearances are very limited. "Limited" Keith Lee
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RealFoxy posted:He's a good example of guys that were just C+ indy guys that got signed too soon.
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Just let Dijak and Kieth Lee wrestle each other on tv and they will get over.
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I’m sorry Apollo Crews...C+, limited? What. Dude was hype in Dragon Gate. Did he lose all his powers in Orlando?
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coconono posted:I’m sorry Apollo Crews...C+, limited? What. Dude was hype in Dragon Gate. Did he lose all his powers in Orlando? No, he was only in NXT for like 8 months. Then they called him up and tried to make him "smiling babyface Bobby Lashley" v2. So he didn't even have the usual NXT hype that these guys come up with where they come out to a big pop from a hardcore crowd, then his first feud was against Heath Slater.
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PaybackJack posted:No, he was only in NXT for like 8 months. Then they called him up and tried to make him "smiling babyface Bobby Lashley" v2. So he didn't even have the usual NXT hype that these guys come up with where they come out to a big pop from a hardcore crowd, then his first feud was against Heath Slater. He pinned Sheamus at MitB and fought Miz for the IC Title at SummerSlam, then he totally vanished.
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VJeff posted:He pinned Sheamus at MitB You say this, and I believe you, but I have zero recollection of it happening.
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Incessant Excess posted:You say this, and I believe you, but I have zero recollection of it happening. I forget it often too.  That was the same night Titus kissed his son, AJ beat Cena, Rollins beat Reigns and Ambrose cashed in. WWE in Summer of 2016 was Good.
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Crews 100% should leave when his deal is up, he's going nowhere and I don't see that changing at all in the future
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Crews/Uhaa was cool as hell when he was chucking around tiny japanese flipmen, WWE doesn't know what they're doing.
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Has anyone taken to clipping highlights from Cornette's podcast again? There was a guy doing it on YouTube forever, but that doesn't seem to exist anymore. I really enjoyed his stuff on some topics but I don't want to listen to another whole podcast for it.
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surf rock posted:Has anyone taken to clipping highlights from Cornette's podcast again? There was a guy doing it on YouTube forever, but that doesn't seem to exist anymore. I really enjoyed his stuff on some topics but I don't want to listen to another whole podcast for it. Cornette threatened to sue the guy who was doing it, iirc.
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The guy giving him free promotion? What a nerd.
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He was probably taking away views and maybe ad revenue from the official channel.
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Jim Cornette's Talking Sense? I thought they had a deal of some kind. The guy had a video on the front page of his channel with Cornette talking about how they had reached an agreement to keep the channel up.
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They had a falling out after Cornette and Brian Last wanted him to hand over the channel to them and they would "keep him on" putting together the videos for whatever money they decided to give him. He felt like Last was jealous of him and would get rid of him pretty quickly afterward if he accepted the deal. Cornette's buddy basically kept drilling it into Jim's head that this YouTube guy was trying to screw them and Cornette doesn't know anything about YouTube or the internet so he bought it all. Unfortunately the editing and presentation is the only reason those videos weren't a hassle to bother with compared to what Brian Last does on his channel with music and various other things that no one wants to hear. This is all from the perspective of the guy who ran that channel; he could be a lying rear end in a top hat who was trying to extort them because his stuff got views, as well. It is not possible to know at this time. Cavauro fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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I mean, I feel like stealing paid content and putting it on Youtube isn't exactly the strongest beginning for a relationship even if I miss those easily-digestible clips popping up in my feed.
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lmao B&V why do you watch this I'm paid to is it worth it?
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I miss being a subscriber on nights like tonight, where them making GBS threads on the product makes me feel less like I wasted my time, because at least there's some entertainment to be had in the aftermath.
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LividLiquid posted:I mean, I feel like stealing paid content and putting it on Youtube isn't exactly the strongest beginning for a relationship even if I miss those easily-digestible clips popping up in my feed. That's a very fair assessment. The guy who put the clips together and made the package seem meme-like had very little to no ground to stand on in that situation. I believe that Cornette and Last benefited pretty heavily from the exposure to non "Cult of Cornette" members, numbers-wise. They should very much continue what he was doing on their own but I don't think either really understands what was going on there or cares to.
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The only other channel I've seen Cornette clips on has much less of a range of them and also has a really obnoxious intro at the start so, weh. There goes something I enjoyed using to kill some time at work.
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The thing you have to remember is that Brian basically made the deal *instead of shutting down Talking Sense* when he and Jim (rightfully) decided to shut down the third party uploads so they could properly monetize everything. I dunno if they would have been better of just shutting down Talking Sense like ended up happening kind of, but maybe asking to make a deal to take over the channel would have been the best bet. It's all moot now, though.
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I apologize for not providing a law-abiding response to the situation initially. I stole music from the music industry in 1997 through 1999, which shows what kind of person I am.
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Cavauro posted:I apologize for not providing a law-abiding response to the situation initially. I stole music from the music industry in 1997 through 1999, which shows what kind of person I am. I'm very ashamed of you for not continuing to steal music to this day.
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It's simply too easy to not steal music
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Cornette said in his latest podcast that they’re giving the YouTube guy another chance and his stuff should be back up there soon Also why not just download a podcast app and listen through there? It’s what I do and I’ve been listening to Cornettes shows whenever a new one comes out. It’s not hard to just jump around for stuff you’re interested interested in
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It's too hard
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Because listening to hours of podcast content to get through to what Jim thinks about one particular thing I'd like to hear about isn't necessarily a waste of my time, but having the topics sectioned out is convenient.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Cornette said in his latest podcast that they’re giving the YouTube guy another chance and his stuff should be back up there soon As for the "why YouTube" question: For Corny-centric content, at least, the segmented clips by topic are clearly a big deal. But there are also a lot of people that just, for whatever reason, like opening podcasts audio in a background tab on YouTube and playing it that way. (And I gotta say, as a reporter, finding segmented interview clips from shoots, old podcasts, etc. is a godsend for sourcing purposes.)
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davidbix posted:No, he said they're giving YOUTUBE another chance. New, separate channel, not Talking Sense or Arcadian Vanguard. Ah I must have misheard, I thought he said “our YouTube guys” and assumed it was one of the previous ones
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https://twitter.com/BTSheetsPod/status/1064418530316173312 Actual 1990 Dave Meltzer sentence read on this week's show: "While the Barr situation may well have been blown out of proportion in the Portland media--sex crimes often are--the fact is he did admit to police to having sex with a woman against her well and he did plea bargain a guilty plea rather than stand trial." It was definitely a different time.
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c bryan s: HEEEEEEAT
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