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Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Fart City posted:


Like if you really wanted to open the bloodgates on some true trash dad reading, we could start talking about Rogue Warrior.

Were his hands the size of California Condors?

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I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

MonsieurChoc posted:

I want a movie where Batista plays a smart professor or something. Because he had glasses in Blade Runner and I think he could pull it off and it would be funny.

Batista and Dolph Lundgren as the Professor Brothers in the live action thrill ride China, IL: Summa Cum Fully Loaded

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
Jack Reacher, Jack Reacher
Twenty foot tall espionage creature
Opponents beware, Opponents beware
He's coming, he's coming, he's coming.

DoctorWhat fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Nov 16, 2018

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

I watched the new Fantastic Beasts movie and apparently Wizard Hitler's goal is to stop Real Hitler.

They didn't outright say Dumbledore is gay, but the non-sexual stuff they show him doing with Grindelwald sure is gay. Also he's the best-dessed guy in the movie.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Colostomy Bag posted:

Were his hands the size of California Condors?

Watch out buddy, you're talking about "Demo" Dick Marcinko there, aka The Shark Man Of The Delta.

No but seriously, Rogue Warrior is the worst kind of jingoistic trash. The main character is "based" on the author (who really was a special ops guy in Vietnam - and later got sent to jail on fraud charges because "the man didn't like what I had to say"), but regularly has him doing poo poo like fist fighting Al-Qaeda on top of the Vatican.

That is not hyperbole.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Fart City posted:

Watch out buddy, you're talking about "Demo" Dick Marcinko there, aka The Shark Man Of The Delta.

No but seriously, Rogue Warrior is the worst kind of jingoistic trash. The main character is "based" on the author (who really was a special ops guy in Vietnam - and later got sent to jail on fraud charges because "the man didn't like what I had to say"), but regularly has him doing poo poo like fist fighting Al-Qaeda on top of the Vatican.

That is not hyperbole.

They can never help themselves. I read 'The Men with Green Faces' a couple of years ago, and while it's mostly pretty sensible milporn, it ends with the chief navy seal using his karate against an NVA officers Tae Kwon Do. No, it is not explained why a Vietnamese guy does Tae Kwon Do.

Basebf555 posted:

If you want to see a major influence on John Wick check out Le Samourai. Le Cercle Rouge is brought up more often because of the specific reference to it in the movie, but I think there's more of Le Samourai's DNA in there as far as Melville influences.

Suzuki Seijun too, stuff like 'Tokyo Drifter' or 'The Youth of the Beast'

Snowman_McK fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Nov 17, 2018

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

Colostomy Bag posted:

Were his hands the size of California Condors?

No but in every book he is losing a fight then remembers that he bench presses 200lbs one hundred times every day and then wins the fight

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Fart City posted:

I mean Reeves is 54, so it still kind of works. I don’t remember, did they ever firmly nail down how long he’s been retired in the movies?

The bartender says she hasn’t seen him in 4 years, so probably around that long.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

Colostomy Bag posted:

Were his hands the size of California Condors?

If the book is anything like the game voiced by Mickey Rourke, his hands are big loving commie-killing cocksucker stranglers, I believe.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Alan Smithee posted:

I dont know how I felt about Road to Perdition. Felt weirdly lifeless to me for all its accoutrements

That's how I feel about Sam Mendes in general.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Fart City posted:

Watch out buddy, you're talking about "Demo" Dick Marcinko there, aka The Shark Man Of The Delta.

No but seriously, Rogue Warrior is the worst kind of jingoistic trash. The main character is "based" on the author (who really was a special ops guy in Vietnam - and later got sent to jail on fraud charges because "the man didn't like what I had to say"), but regularly has him doing poo poo like fist fighting Al-Qaeda on top of the Vatican.

That is not hyperbole.

I met Dick Marcinko for a few seconds at a GameStop conference in like 2009 or 10 because the very very very long delayed and completely awful Rogue Warrior video game was finally coming out. It was supposed to launch with the 360 but I guess for quality/book timing/whatever reasons it kept getting pushed back and bouncing from dev to dev. Anyway I got an autographed free copy of one of his books which I threw away the same day and he kept greeting everyone by going up to anyone coming by the table shaking one's hand while handing them a book, and boldly stating HEY KID......I'M THE ROOOGUE WARRRIOR™.

I want to say it was 2009 because I remember that it was within the time period where SquareEnix bought Eidos and WBIE became a thing but before Arkham city came out so I had to go to like five different publisher presentations where each one was acting like they, personally, coded and created every aspect of Batman: Arkham Asylum. :lol:

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Nov 17, 2018

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I'm torn over this.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006


I honestly love the Val Kilmer film. Everyone's engaging in it, it gave the world Rade Serbedzija, the villains were prescient and now frighteningly familiar and the soundtrack is pure '90s EDM.

I swear to God that, when I die, I want Superior's "Polaroid Millennium" to be the last thing I hear. Instead of smashing my wristwatch across the rocks to tell everyone when I died, it will be a MP3 player timed so the last lines are "these four walls are lost forever/I could never be that clever". That's such a great outro song.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


One of the weirder old hollywood things is in the original Saint series, the main actor George Sanders left to do the series The Falcon which was functionally identical to The Saint (to the point where they got sued), then he left that series but instead of recasting The Falcon they invented his brother and killed him off, the brother was played by Sanders's actual brother.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Maybe this could be the start of ITC Action-Adventure Show Reboot Shared Extended Cinematic Movie Universe.

Your post-credits scene is Chris Pratt as Simon Templar going back to his house and being confronted by a man in a bowler with a brolly played by Tom Hiddleston saying he's here to talk to him about the Avengers Initiative.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Wheat Loaf posted:

Maybe this could be the start of ITC Action-Adventure Show Reboot Shared Extended Cinematic Movie Universe.

Really, it won't take off until they do an Action Man/Secret Agent Man with Tom Hardy as John Drake, which inevitably turns into The Prisoner.

Also, you gotta throw in Space: 1999 and UFO in there as well.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Young Freud posted:

Really, it won't take off until they do an Action Man/Secret Agent Man with Tom Hardy as John Drake, which inevitably turns into The Prisoner.

Also, you gotta throw in Space: 1999 and UFO in there as well.

Of course you'd need to get CGI Peter Wyngarde to play Jason King because nobody else could.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

davidspackage posted:

If the book is anything like the game voiced by Mickey Rourke, his hands are big loving commie-killing cocksucker stranglers, I believe.

So they're for strangling commie-killing cocksuckers?

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



The MSJ posted:

I watched the new Fantastic Beasts movie and apparently Wizard Hitler's goal is to stop Real Hitler.

They didn't outright say Dumbledore is gay, but the non-sexual stuff they show him doing with Grindelwald sure is gay. Also he's the best-dessed guy in the movie.

Everything I’ve heard about this just makes me more and more baffled. Did Centrist Disease finally infect J.K. Rowling’s writing?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Friends Are Evil posted:

Everything I’ve heard about this just makes me more and more baffled. Did Centrist Disease finally infect J.K. Rowling’s writing?

She’s always been a third-way liberal galaxy brain, at least on twitter. Dumbledore being gay but not being “in your face about it” is exactly her kind of rainbow capitalism.

Friends Are Evil
Oct 25, 2010

cats cats cats



Antifa Turkeesian posted:

She’s always been a third-way liberal galaxy brain, at least on twitter. Dumbledore being gay but not being “in your face about it” is exactly her kind of rainbow capitalism.

Of course. What I mean is, has it infiltrated her actual stories before now?

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


The spoilers I read made little sense so I'll probably just end up watching it one day at a hotel like I did the last one.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Dumbledore being gay but not being “in your face about it” is exactly her kind of rainbow capitalism.

I think it's important to note that with the Dumbledore thing, the book series ended in 2007 after a decade-long run. Being able to include gay characters in kids media without coding it or attracting absolutely insane amounts of controversy is a pretty new development. The way Dumbledore is actually handled in the books is way less consistent with how you characterize it, and more consistent with Rowling probably not thinking she'd be allowed to say it outright without getting a lynch mob of fundies after her- it's pretty blindingly obvious if you're looking at all.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
She’s British, fundies can’t do much to her.

Oh no they might boycott a franchise they would never purchase

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
I liked the new harry potter, it reminds me a lot of Empire Strikes Back

The worst part was seeing the new Mary Poppins trailer, it looks totally devoid of originality and Lin miranda appears to be a show-stoppingly bad actor in any scene he's in

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

CharlestheHammer posted:

She’s British, fundies can’t do much to her.

Oh no they might boycott a franchise they would never purchase

Fundies hated Harry Potter regardless for witchcraft and constantly tried to get it banned when it was first taking off.

Sorcerer's Stone is still in the 100 most banned books around the globe.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Cythereal posted:

Fundies hated Harry Potter regardless for witchcraft and constantly tried to get it banned when it was first taking off.

Sorcerer's Stone is still in the 100 most banned books around the globe.

Yeah trying to sell fundies on witchcraft was already a non starter, gay people ain’t gonna do poo poo

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Cythereal posted:

Fundies hated Harry Potter regardless for witchcraft and constantly tried to get it banned when it was first taking off.

Sorcerer's Stone is still in the 100 most banned books around the globe.

It's nice that Alabama and Saudi Arabia can find common ground like this :allears:

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

If you are wondering about the big spoiler for Crimes of Grindelwald, it's about Ezra Miller's character Credence. Grindelwald told him that his real name is Aurelius Dumbledore. JK Rowling never even hinted at the character existing before this.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

CharlestheHammer posted:

Yeah trying to sell fundies on witchcraft was already a non starter, gay people ain’t gonna do poo poo

I've lived in the absolute heart of fundie-land for all my life.

As it stands, Harry Potter was only a big deal in that regard at the very outset, and as the series went on and became more widely known, everyone along those lines who wasn't a complete nut kinda went "okay, this is very clearly not teaching my children how to be wizards IRL with Satan's help, I'm grudgingly ok with this." Like, I remember watching the Prisoner of Azkaban movie with my ultra-ultra-fundie grandma when it came out on DVD (at HER suggestion), who was completely okay with it because it bore absolutely no resemblance to what most fundies understand "witchcraft" to be. (If Chilling Adventures of Sabrina had come out before she passed away, she probably would have utterly lost it with anger at that show's existence.)

Making Dumbledore explicitly gay, instead of just very very heavily coded as such, would have nuked that grudging acceptance from orbit.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Though the fact that the argument has progressed to she couldn’t do it because it would cost her money is kind of exactly what the original post was accusing her of. So I’m not even sure what is being argued

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina is interesting because one of the villains is Father Blackwood who is a sexist fundie Satanist who dislikes Sabrina because her father was a progressive Satanist who banned human sacrifice and married a mortal.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

I haven’t seen the latest movie but her Comoran Strike series (which she tried to write under a pseudonym) is a delightful crime airport thriller. Rowling clearly loves the characters. There are a few points where her politics and frustrations bleed through (a big part of The Silkworm is Rowling dunking on the publishing industry and “serious literary authors”) but they never make the books unreadable.

A Casual Vacancy is all about local British politics and it is an absolutely atrocious book.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I think it's important to note that with the Dumbledore thing, the book series ended in 2007 after a decade-long run. Being able to include gay characters in kids media without coding it or attracting absolutely insane amounts of controversy is a pretty new development. The way Dumbledore is actually handled in the books is way less consistent with how you characterize it, and more consistent with Rowling probably not thinking she'd be allowed to say it outright without getting a lynch mob of fundies after her- it's pretty blindingly obvious if you're looking at all.

Yeah depending on where you live and how old you are, it can be really shocking for a lot of folks to find out that in 2004 GWB ran a successful re-election campaign in the US with about 1\3rd to half of the messaging focusing on more or less open homophobia. Being anti-gay was a winning issue with over half the US population, less than 15 years ago. The social change we've seen since then had been massive and extremely fast.

Rowling is still pretty awful of course.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Yeah depending on where you live and how old you are, it can be really shocking for a lot of folks to find out that in 2004 GWB ran a successful re-election campaign in the US with about 1\3rd to half of the messaging focusing on more or less open homophobia. Being anti-gay was a winning issue with over half the US population, less than 15 years ago. The social change we've seen since then had been massive and extremely fast.

Rowling is still pretty awful of course.

And even then, many big companies like Disney and Blizzard still don't include or recognize gay characters in their main works because that would potentially lose them money from American conservatives and parts of the world where such things are banned.

Rowling's mediocre at best with her record, but she's still in plentiful company.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

I Before E posted:

So they're for strangling commie-killing cocksuckers?

I really needed a comma there, didn't I? As Dick Marcenko would put it, that sentence was a complete goatfuck.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

The MSJ posted:

The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina is interesting because one of the villains is Father Blackwood who is a sexist fundie Satanist who dislikes Sabrina because her father was a progressive Satanist who banned human sacrifice and married a mortal.

The way the show treats Satanism is absolutely hilarious. It's basically an ironic Chick Tract.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

How dare people mention Rogue Warrior in this thread and not also mention Mickey Rourke "singing" the greatest ending theme in videogame history.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Cythereal posted:

And even then, many big companies like Disney and Blizzard still don't include or recognize gay characters in their main works because that would potentially lose them money from American conservatives and parts of the world where such things are banned.

Rowling's mediocre at best with her record, but she's still in plentiful company.

Isn't Tracer confirmed gay?

:goonsay:

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Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Len posted:

Isn't Tracer confirmed gay?

:goonsay:

She is yes, in a relationship and everything.
But at the same time that was mentioned in a spin off comic and never brought up in game as far as I'm aware.


I kinda enjoyed the Saint revival movie that is on Netflix that has both Roger Moore and Ian Ogilvy in cameos roles. But mainly due to the banter because the plot was somewhat awful.

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