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Gorman Thomas posted:1. Weed Old Rasputin is so goddamn good. Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Burn After Reading is pretty far down in my Coen Bros rankings based on initial impressions, but it has some amazing moments. It’s the most politically relevant Coen Bros. movie, because idiots are in charge and they think conspiracy is everywhere.
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Don’t get me wrong, Burn After Reading is very good, I just don’t like it as much as, say, Fargo or Lebowski.
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Nov 19, 2018 15:23
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Don’t get me wrong, Burn After Reading is very good, I just don’t like it as much as, say, Fargo or Lebowski. They are the kinda directors where even their weakest movies (Intolerable Cruelty And The Ladykillers) rank pretty high among other movies, they’re just great filmmakers in general.
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Nov 19, 2018 15:25
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X-Ray Pecs posted:It’s the most politically relevant Coen Bros. movie, because idiots are in charge and they think conspiracy is everywhere. I've always wanted a movie about the true story of a Soviet spy who worked for British intelligence for like twenty years and was only found out because he drunkenly drove into a tree and his trunk was full of secret documents. X-Ray Pecs posted:They are the kinda directors where even their weakest movies (Intolerable Cruelty And The Ladykillers) rank pretty high among other movies, they’re just great filmmakers in general. Ladykillers isn't bad for a Coen Brothers movie, it's just bad
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Nov 19, 2018 15:28
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Anyone can be a spy. loving scientologists infiltrated the FBI for years and they didn't discover it until a night cleaner figured it out.
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Nov 19, 2018 15:49
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During the Korean War, the CIA took North Korean refugees and dropped them behind enemy lines with little to no support, and so many got caught it basically lead to thousands being tortured, executed, or forced to pass along bad intelligence to the CIA before being tortured and executed.
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Nov 19, 2018 15:52
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Don’t forget the assassination attempt a few years ago when the CIA tried to get a trashy talk show host to poison Kim Jong Un. They were not happy about that.
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Nov 19, 2018 16:12
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I made a Western thread. Will do a recommendation dump for the 2nd OP when I have some time.
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Coffee And Pie posted:Don’t forget the assassination attempt a few years ago when the CIA tried to get a trashy talk show host to poison Kim Jong Un. They were not happy about that. The CIA has always been so full of stupid ideas. Read Legacy of Ashes for a good look at just how hosed the CIA is and how they’ve basically never been held accountable for any of their numerous fuckups that have gotten tens of thousands of people killed.
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Nov 19, 2018 16:20
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X-Ray Pecs posted:During the Korean War, the CIA took North Korean refugees and dropped them behind enemy lines with little to no support, and so many got caught it basically lead to thousands being tortured, executed, or forced to pass along bad intelligence to the CIA before being tortured and executed. PRC and USSR intelligence have/had an incredible hit rate on CIA agents and assets, which finally led them to have the obvious brainstorm that it makes much more sense to just back rebel groups and so on. Samuel Clemens posted:It is a great list, but I can't help but be a bit disappointed whenever I see a top 100 featuring only familiar names. The Japanese spotlight pretty much always rests on Kurosawa, Mizeoguchi, and Ozu, but never Kobayashi or members of the New Wave, and Swedish cinema always seems to begin and end with Bergman. I don't want to knock it too much, because an aggregate list obviously tends to gravitate towards widely respected options and none of the selected films are undeserving of inclusion, it'd just be nice to see more oddball choices that go beyond the established canon is all. It's the standard list and as such really boring. It's just homework, like yes, you probably ought to watch Floating Weeds. One I never ever get being on there, of all the Italian films there have ever been, is why the gently caress Cinema Paradiso always ends up on these lists. It straight up sucks rear end, treacly, maudling crap.
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Nov 19, 2018 16:38
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Fuckin' CIA, those cunts toppled Gough Whitlam, the best Prime Minister Australia ever had
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Nov 19, 2018 16:39
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's the standard list and as such really boring. It's just homework, like yes, you probably ought to watch Floating Weeds. One I never ever get being on there, of all the Italian films there have ever been, is why the gently caress Cinema Paradiso always ends up on these lists. It straight up sucks rear end, treacly, maudling crap. It's either that or some Benigni poo poo.
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Nov 19, 2018 16:44
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There are like two dozen Italian movies I could just rattle off from the top of my head better than that, and they're not remotely obscure. What's wrong with these people.
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Nov 19, 2018 16:46
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I think it's interesting that Leone gets left out of these lists completely.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:One I never ever get being on there, of all the Italian films there have ever been, is why the gently caress Cinema Paradiso always ends up on these lists. It straight up sucks rear end, treacly, maudling crap. I absolutely agree with this. How the gently caress is it above Beehive and F&A and All About My Mother and basically everything else there
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Nov 19, 2018 16:58
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X-Ray Pecs posted:The CIA has always been so full of stupid ideas. Read Legacy of Ashes for a good look at just how hosed the CIA is and how they’ve basically never been held accountable for any of their numerous fuckups that have gotten tens of thousands of people killed. The wildest part is how history books years from now will have to explain Seth Rogen and James Franco to teenagers.
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Nov 19, 2018 16:59
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How is it even on the list when there are zero Pasolini films on the list.
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Nov 19, 2018 17:00
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Coffee And Pie posted:The wildest part is how history books years from now will have to explain Seth Rogen and James Franco to teenagers. That's not even close to the wildest poo poo the CIA does and did Phoenix Program for starters "rape, gang rape, rape using eels, snakes, or hard objects, and rape followed by murder; electric shock ('the Bell Telephone Hour') rendered by attaching wires to the genitals or other sensitive parts of the body, like the tongue; the 'water treatment'; the 'airplane' in which the prisoner's arms were tied behind the back, and the rope looped over a hook on the ceiling, suspending the prisoner in midair, after which he or she was beaten; beatings with rubber hoses and whips; the use of police dogs to maul prisoners." The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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Nov 19, 2018 17:13
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:How is it even on the list when there are zero Pasolini films on the list. Okay, now this pisses me off
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Nov 19, 2018 17:13
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The issue with that list is that it's aggregated from a number of critics, so the films that get on are the most widely admired. The individual lists would, I am sure, make much more interesting reading.
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Nov 19, 2018 17:17
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:How is it even on the list when there are zero Pasolini films on the list. To be fair, Pasolini probably has the problem that there isn't a single film everyone can coalesce around, so votes are split between multiple entries. Whereas pretty much everyone agrees that Cinema Paradiso is Tornatore's best film (for better or worse). Which is why I think a 100 best directors list would probably be more interesting to see.
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Nov 19, 2018 17:20
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:PRC and USSR intelligence have/had an incredible hit rate on CIA agents and assets, which finally led them to have the obvious brainstorm that it makes much more sense to just back rebel groups and so on. The really funny/horrifying thing is how long it took for the CIA to catch on whenever they were being played, it took thousands of dead people for the CIA to realize something was up.
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Nov 19, 2018 17:44
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I would honestly rather get bitten by a dog than watch that video.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:The really funny/horrifying thing is how long it took for the CIA to catch on whenever they were being played, it took thousands of dead people for the CIA to realize something was up. Yeah, you get the impression that they really didn't give a poo poo and loved having the official mission statement of "intelligence gathering" to fall back on whenever one of their cockamamie schemes got a ton of people killed.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Yeah, you get the impression that they really didn't give a poo poo and loved having the official mission statement of "intelligence gathering" to fall back on whenever one of their cockamamie schemes got a ton of people killed. "Let's give LSD to random people to see if it makes them psychic" is one of their cuter plans.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Yeah, you get the impression that they really didn't give a poo poo and loved having the official mission statement of "intelligence gathering" to fall back on whenever one of their cockamamie schemes got a ton of people killed. I’m guessing the people calling the shots thought that maybe they’d get some intelligence from these missions, and that was worth the lives of however many Koreans they airdropped behind enemy lines, because the boots on the ground are always expendable, while top brass is safe and cozy at home base.
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Power of Pecota posted:I would honestly rather get bitten by a dog than watch that video. It's important to understand how the media platforms we use affect our politics.
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Finally caught buster Scruggs this weekend. Loved it, even in it's bleakness. I feel the titular short could've gone last and it would've been even better. Tom Waitts section was the highlight. Though it was super whiplash with how white it was since we had just watched blazing saddles a moment before.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:I’m guessing the people calling the shots thought that maybe they’d get some intelligence from these missions, and that was worth the lives of however many Koreans they airdropped behind enemy lines, because the boots on the ground are always expendable, while top brass is safe and cozy at home base. No
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Power of Pecota posted:I would honestly rather get bitten by a dog than watch that video. Three Arrows is a leftist youtuber and is good
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Best songs about the CIA, go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aent-o3n5-Y
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Nov 19, 2018 18:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjd0hgwqJVs
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ruddiger posted:Best songs about the CIA, go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW9cCWm53H4
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Nov 19, 2018 18:37
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Considering this CIA derail was inspired by someone watching Burn After Reading, this answer’s almost cheating, but it’s a great song.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Considering this CIA derail was inspired by someone watching Burn After Reading, this answer’s almost cheating, but it’s a great song. I dunno which company makes their trailers, but Coen Bros. trailers/teasers always have kick-rear end music. Burn After Reading's promos also used "Grounds For Divorce" by Elbow (which was more thematically relevant than at first glance) and "I Got A Line On You" by Spirit, both of which became huge jams for me in '08/'09 edit: Around the same time Observe & Report's trailers were using "The Man" by Patto, which was loving crazy cool, and was only surpassed by the actual film using "(When I Paint) My Masterpiece" by The Band for the opening credits, which was just inspired. Still one of the best opening credit song choices used in the past 10+ years.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's the standard list and as such really boring. It's just homework, like yes, you probably ought to watch Floating Weeds. One I never ever get being on there, of all the Italian films there have ever been, is why the gently caress Cinema Paradiso always ends up on these lists. It straight up sucks rear end, treacly, maudling crap.
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Franchescanado posted:I dunno which company makes their trailers, but Coen Bros. trailers/teasers always have kick-rear end music. Burn After Reading's promos also used "Grounds For Divorce" by Elbow (which was more thematically relevant than at first glance) and "I Got A Line On You" by Spirit, both of which became huge jams for me in '08/'09 That A Serious Man trailer set to the dream sequence bit where the main character gets his head smashed into the chalkboard was incredible.
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Electronico6 posted:I think it's interesting that Leone gets left out of these lists completely. They're not really foreign-language films. This list said "primarily in a language other than English" and while the English and Italian versions of Leones movies are both kind of the original and both partially dubbed, the main characters are mostly Americans and the movies can't really be said to be primarily in Italian.
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ruddiger posted:Best songs about the CIA, go Kinda basic and ain't gonna be as good as other suggestions but hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjotfd4_3TE
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X-Ray Pecs posted:That A Serious Man trailer set to the dream sequence bit where the main character gets his head smashed into the chalkboard was incredible. Yeah, I'd easily believe that the Coens have enough clout and interest to be involved in making the promos for their films. They're always perfect while never revealing too much, and the music choices are too good. The only filmmaker I know of, though, that was openly involved in that, is James Gunn with his two Guardian flicks. Dude was involved in a lot of those decisions, especially with picking "Fox on the Run" for the sequel's trailer.
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