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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/emoprog/status/1064309930570776582 They're smart/sane enough to realize supporting the party of blood gargling psychopaths is a bad look, but not smart enough to do any sort of self reflection past that.
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Payndz posted:Looking at some of the comments on that AOC tweet from a couple of pages back, I literally cannot fathom the mindset of people who say "I would sooner be driven into bankruptcy or watch my children suffer terrible preventable illnesses because I can't afford to pay for their treatment than accept ONE PENNY OF ASSISTANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT FOR SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE!!!" America is a place where people don't know the first thing about any kind of ideology, all they know is that the only reason America is Great is that we don't have socialism. If we got socialism — why would we ever want to do that? — we would immediately cease to be America.
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Payndz posted:Looking at some of the comments on that AOC tweet from a couple of pages back, I literally cannot fathom the mindset of people who say "I would sooner be driven into bankruptcy or watch my children suffer terrible preventable illnesses because I can't afford to pay for their treatment than accept ONE PENNY OF ASSISTANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT FOR SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE!!!" Well, a lot of them are bots, but a lot of them are also right wing brainwashed, so you don't really.
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Fun Times! posted:Been on a trip with no internet the past 4 days. Anything happen? Trump called Adam Schiff "Adam Schitt" on Twitter.
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Alkydere posted:They're smart/sane enough to realize supporting the party of blood gargling psychopaths is a bad look, but not smart enough to do any sort of self reflection past that. Basically their goal has been to take the ideology of the blood gargling party and incorporate it into the other one that has less monstrous branding. It's why Never Trumpers and other ex-Republicans should not be trusted or allowed to act like they aren't just a Trojan Horse of bad politics waiting to happen. Every one that has claimed to have a crisis of concience always reveals that they just didn't like social ramifications of their ideals which didn't change at all. I could see a Republican that admits everything they believed was wrong to have changed but any saying "the party has left me" or "Trump has ruined the party" is 100% full of poo poo. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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cr0y posted:https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1064507136670146560?s=19 Holy poo poo this is hilarious. Trumpy Boy can't let this stand so he going to double down into oblivion.
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Sometimes the chud ladies at my office turn on Fox News and the airplay AOC gets is unreal. It peaked when she surprise primaried Crowley and now again that shes officially elected. The funniest thing is that the Dem "let her get some experience first before we listen to her" arguments are identical to a whole lot of what Fox News says
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my bony fealty posted:Sometimes the chud ladies at my office turn on Fox News and the airplay AOC gets is unreal. It peaked when she surprise primaried Crowley and now again that shes officially elected. The funniest thing is that the Dem "let her get some experience first before we listen to her" arguments are identical to a whole lot of what Fox News says The good news is that those chuddites that are religiously watching Fox News are not the demographics she is most popular with. She has the backing of my generation who is becoming more and more politically active because Boomers loving suck and we can't trust y'all to run jack poo poo anymore. Boomers are the single most narcissist and FYGM generation in modern history
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reignonyourparade posted:US marshals are going to end up forcibly escorting that dude into the whitehouse. Nah, that is the Secret Service's job. People who are worried about a coup are really funny to me because you have to make sure your personal guards are on your side as well as the military. They most assuredly are not because Trumpy Boi refuses to pay the Secret Service for all the overtime.
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friendbot2000 posted:Nah, that is the Secret Service's job. Enforcing federal court orders IS the marshal's job though.
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my bony fealty posted:Sometimes the chud ladies at my office turn on Fox News and the airplay AOC gets is unreal. It peaked when she surprise primaried Crowley and now again that shes officially elected. The funniest thing is that the Dem "let her get some experience first before we listen to her" arguments are identical to a whole lot of what Fox News says Do they ever play her responses? I'm sure she drives ratings because she's a young, good-looking, brown-skinned socialist, she's all their fears in one package.
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friendbot2000 posted:Nah, that is the Secret Service's job. People who are worried about a coup are really funny to me because you have to make sure your personal guards are on your side as well as the military. They most assuredly are not because Trumpy Boi refuses to pay the Secret Service for all the overtime. No doubt, Trump charges the secret service for rooms and golf carts at mar-a-lago while they're there guarding his life. Anything for a penny.
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reignonyourparade posted:Enforcing federal court orders IS the marshal's job though. Oh poo poo. My bad. I thought this was in reference to ousting Trump and completely glazed over the word "into". Welp, time for another cup of coffee. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Do they ever play her responses? She is all my dreams in one package. 
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Interesting tidbit I found on the politics subreddit:quote:Mueller has a surprise coming for them.
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I wonder how much traction they'll get trying to drag her over mistakes and misstatements made during her Instagram streams. On the one hand, it's not hard to assemble sound bites that appear damaging, but on the other, you've got an incoming member of Congress talking extemporaneously to people and taking live questions. I feel like that second one is gonna leave a bigger impression on most folks.
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my bony fealty posted:Sometimes the chud ladies at my office turn on Fox News and the airplay AOC gets is unreal. It peaked when she surprise primaried Crowley and now again that shes officially elected. The funniest thing is that the Dem "let her get some experience first before we listen to her" arguments are identical to a whole lot of what Fox News says That's because they're like a Republican grandfather pretending to have been a lifelong Democrat.
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EdithUpwards posted:That's because they're like a Republican grandfather pretending to have been a lifelong Democrat. Also because "she just needs to mature more," is historically one of the most common and most effective lines of attack against any professional woman under the age of 45. Patronize and infantilize until they either give up or conform.
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Skippy McPants posted:I wonder how much traction they'll get trying to drag her over mistakes and misstatements made during her Instagram streams. On the one hand, it's not hard to assemble sound bites that appear damaging, but on the other, you've got an incoming member of Congress talking extemporaneously to people and taking live questions. I feel like that second one is gonna leave a bigger impression on most folks. She is doing retail politics on an internet medium, which....hasn't really been done before? I think this will resonate with younger voters and a portion of the generation before millennials(people in their 30s idk what the term for them is) because unlike a lot of our representatives, she is accessible. In an age where you can barely get a Rep or Senator to have a town hall, you have a young, charismatic, Congresswoman reaching out and saying "ask me anything" and actually LISTENING to people. That is going to be wildly successful because it sponsors trust and sincerity. friendbot2000 fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/1064517775723499521 My hope is that when people repeatedly badger her with "how are you going to pay for all this," she just starts saying " Or has she already said that, and I missed it?
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Skippy McPants posted:Also because "she just needs to mature more," is historically one of the most common and most effective lines of attack against any professional woman under the age of 45. Not just for attacking women. Really any person under 45 is viewed as immature and not worth anything because they don't have "experience". Ageism is HUGELY prevalent in American culture because we hole the older generation up on a pedestal as a measure of respect because they know the "real world". Young people upset the apple cart because they don't fall in line as easily and frighten olds. This is a tool int heir toolbox to disenfranchise young women, but let's not pretend it isn't directed at ALL young people the moment they voice their opinion. We saw it during the Occupy Movements. We saw it during the advocacy of the students from Parkland. Hell, we saw it during Obama's campaign. My own family questions my sources when I voice an opinion because they must be "from blogs". People over 60 are venerated in this society and it needs to stop.
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Skippy McPants posted:I wonder how much traction they'll get trying to drag her over mistakes and misstatements made during her Instagram streams. On the one hand, it's not hard to assemble sound bites that appear damaging, but on the other, you've got an incoming member of Congress talking extemporaneously to people and taking live questions. I feel like that second one is gonna leave a bigger impression on most folks. Dumbfuck Trumpers trying to nitpick stuff she says and act like they are the smarties is hilarious since they have lost any semblence of legitimacy they unfairly gained by years of the discourse being dictated by ghouls claiming conservatism was the "intelligent" ideogy. Also pretty much every conservative reply to that is a variation of "umm the system is SUPPOSED to disenfranchise people we don't like don't you understand that dumb dumb??" One of the best parts of AOC is she understand there's no meeting in the middle with people who considering their enemies less on the citizenship scale than themselves and treats them accordingly unlike Serious Democrats. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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friendbot2000 posted:She is doing retail politics on an internet medium, which....hasn't really been done before? I think this will resonate with younger voters and a portion of the generation before millennials(people in their 30s idk what the term for them is) because unlike a lot of our representatives, she is accessible. In an age where you can barely get a Rep or Senator to have a town hall, you have a young, charismatic, Congresswoman reaching out and saying "ask me anything" and actually LISTENING to people. That is going to be wildly successful because it sponsors trust and sincerity. Right-wing types have been able to dismiss people like her for generations by saying "Look here kiddo, we all want free candy, but it isn't that simple. You can't just HAVE free stuff like health care and racial justice. There are more complexities at work here that you just don't know about. This stuff is difficult to do, now let the grown-ups handle the hard work *pats on head*" Young people who want to appear smart have often been seduced into going along with that position because it makes it seem like they've got an inside line on the secret arcane complexities of reality, whereas all their classmates who think the answers are easy are just naive and delusional. But what might be different now is that if the younger generation is well-connected enough to a) be educated on how these goals can be brought about realistically, and b) react viscerally to that infantilization and condescension they get from boomers, they'll steamroll it.
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friendbot2000 posted:She is doing retail politics on an internet medium, which....hasn't really been done before? I think this will resonate with younger voters and a portion of the generation before millennials(people in their 30s idk what the term for them is) because unlike a lot of our representatives, she is accessible. In an age where you can barely get a Rep or Senator to have a town hall, you have a young, charismatic, Congresswoman reaching out and saying "ask me anything" and actually LISTENING to people. That is going to be wildly successful because it sponsors trust and sincerity. Twitch plays politics, as it were. It'll be interesting to see, and while it's cool what she's doing I do also worry about the negative applications it might have when wielded by someone with bad intent. Fake edit: millennial is a pretty huge net, like '81 to '95'ish. So most people in their 30s still count as millennials. Generations are kinda dumb, and I feel like the real breakpoint is if a person was young enough to integrate when social media started to blow up. Even stuff like blogs and web forms create a huge gulf between those without.
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Data Graham posted:Right-wing types have been able to dismiss people like her for generations by saying "Look here kiddo, we all want free candy, but it isn't that simple. You can't just HAVE free stuff like health care and racial justice. There are more complexities at work here that you just don't know about. This stuff is difficult to do, now let the grown-ups handle the hard work *pats on head*" The other advantage the kids these days have is that Trumpism is so loving stupid, it's excruciatingly obvious that none of these fuckers can even time-share a single brain cell between them, so that veneer of respectable opinion is gone. Buckley is dead and buried and all that's left is your crazy uncle on facebook. Nobody ever joined QAnon because they wanted to look smart. Skippy McPants posted:
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Skippy McPants posted:Twitch plays politics, as it were. It'll be interesting to see, and while it's cool what she's doing I do also worry about the negative applications it might have when wielded by someone with bad intent. Yeah, generations are weird. My primary point is I think she is just as attractive to digital immigrants like people born from 1981 to 1990. She is definitely the representative of the Digital Age so has the digital native vote locked down. AOC excites me as a voter and makes me proud to be an American in a non-creepy patriotic way. I am not super concerned about this model being used with bad intent because those models prey on a specific set of voter who let's be honest, is not going to be in the progressive camp, to begin with. Plus, it requires that person to hit back at the trolls and criticism with the now patented AOC Twitter Knockout blow which let's be honest is not really in the wheelhouse of the Conservative Party. I am leerier of it being co-opted by the olds of the Democratic Party and just falling flat because it will come across as "what's up fellow kids". Example: Pokemon Go To the Polls
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