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Pondex posted:Can anyone recommend some good newer graphic novels about, I guess, contemporary issues? John Lewis' March?
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Rhyno posted:DMZ? I hadn't even thought of that. It seems like that book is getting less and less speculative every day.
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Pondex posted:I hadn't even thought of that. It seems like that book is getting less and less speculative every day. I know, it's a little scary. Fantastic series though.
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Nov 19, 2018 20:39
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Pondex posted:Can anyone recommend some good newer graphic novels about, I guess, contemporary issues? Just pick up any graphic novel by Guy Delisle. John Lewis' March is also really solid so give that a look. edit: Here are some other books sans links: Persepolis (autobiography about a girl growing up in Iran during the revolution) Maus Louis Riel (about a Canadian native who fought against the Government to achieve native rights) Rolling Blackouts (about Syria by Gliddens) The Best We could do (about a girl and her family growing up in Vietnam during the war and their experiences moving to America). Trinity: graphic history of the first atomic bomb (pretty self explanatory) AD: New Orleans after the Deluge Madkal fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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Nov 19, 2018 20:40
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Transmetropolitan (Ok not really but it feels like it gets closer every year)
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Pondex posted:Can anyone recommend some good newer graphic novels about, I guess, contemporary issues? Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi
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Nov 19, 2018 21:41
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Madkal posted:Just pick up any graphic novel by Guy Delisle. Scaramouche posted:Transmetropolitan Alhazred posted:Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi You realize they asked for newer graphic novels, right? Put me down for another recommendation of March by John Lewis.
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Nov 19, 2018 22:04
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this is just shining a light on how underutilized the graphic novel format is for nonfiction
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Nov 19, 2018 22:14
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Skwirl posted:You realize they asked for newer graphic novels, right? The Guy Delisle stuff is all from the last 10 odd years. Also the classics never go out of style.
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Nov 19, 2018 22:19
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Pondex posted:Can anyone recommend some good newer graphic novels about, I guess, contemporary issues? I recently read two books by an Israeli cartoonist, Rutu Modan, Exit Wounds and The Property that I found to be pretty sensitive and subtle. Nick Drsano's Sabrina (not the teenage witch, although that's also a good comic) is super timely and a gut punch, I think it came out within the last year or so.
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Nov 19, 2018 22:48
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Personal: Pedro and Me by Judd Winick: Judd tells about his friendship with Pedro from MTV's Real World and how Pedro made him into a better person, WAY better than it sounds. Asterios Polyp by Dave Mazzuchelli: Middle aged architect & teacher loses his apartment due to a fire and it changes his life. Visually impressive. Ambitious as poo poo. Political: Punk Rock Jesus by Sean Murphy: Corporation locks up a semi-willing virgin and uses alleged DNA from the shroud of turin and her egg to give "Virgin Birth" to a second coming, who eventually rebels. Heavy handed and a little one sided, but visually pretty drat great and still enjoyable. Citizen 13660 by Mine Okubo: Memoir of Japanese intern camp survivor. Exceptional. Incognegro by Mat Johnson: An African-American reporter who often passes for white investigates his darked skinned brother's death in 1930's Mississippi. Sad, but really good. La Lucha: The Story of Lucha Castro and Human Rights in Mexico' by Jon Sack and Adam Shapiro: Graphic novel about Lucha Castro, an activist who fights against the lack of proper law enforcement in Juarez, where something like 90% of murders go unsolved.
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Nov 19, 2018 22:56
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El Gallinero Gros posted:
There's an Incognegro sequel about the Harlem Renaissance that isn't quite as good but still fascinating. Johnson also has a fantastic novel, Pym, which is a great interrogation of Poe and Lovecraft and the role of race in the origins of American genre fiction, as well as really funny.
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Nov 19, 2018 22:59
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Madkal posted:The Guy Delisle stuff is all from the last 10 odd years. Also the classics never go out of style. I meant to only call out Persepolis and especially Maus, screwed up my editing. Q: What are some Newer graphic novels A: Something published in 1991.
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Nov 19, 2018 23:06
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Skwirl posted:I meant to only call out Persepolis and especially Maus, screwed up my editing. Counterpoint: telling folks to check those books out is pretty much never a bad idea
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Nov 19, 2018 23:08
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Counterpoint: telling folks to check those books out is pretty much never a bad idea Counter counterpoint: googling "best graphic novels" will get you both of those, probably in the first link. And it's well outside what they were looking for, I loving love Spider-man and I think Ultimate Spider-man is an excellent book, but if I asked, "Hey my niece is twelve and likes superhero movies, what's a good comic about a teenage girl superhero?" Ultimate Spider-Man would be a piss poor answer.
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Nov 19, 2018 23:15
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Here is a slightly more comprehensive list (with more recent titles): Age of License - Lucy Knisley quote:Cartoonist Lucy Knisley got an opportunity that most only dream of: a travel-expenses-paid trip to Europe and Scandinavia, thanks to a book tour. An age of license is Knisley's comics travel memoir recounting her adventures. It's punctuated by whimsical visual devices; peppered with the cats she meets along the way; and, of course, features her hallmark--drawings and descriptions of food that will make your mouth water. But it's not all kittens and raclette crepes. Knisley's experiences are colored by anxieties, introspective self-inquiries, and quotidian revelations--about traveling alone in unfamiliar countries, and about her life and career. All the answers- Kupperman quote:The author traces the life of his reclusive father--the once-world-famous Joel Kupperman, Quiz Kid. Now that hat his father is slipping into dementia, it means that the past he would never talk about might be erased forever. Joel Kupperman became one of the most famous children in America during World War II as one of the young geniuses on the series Quiz Kids. With the uncanny ability to perform complex math problems in his head, Joel endeared himself to audiences across the country and became a national obsession. Following a childhood spent in the public eye, Joel deliberately spent the remainder of his life removed from the world at large. This book is both a powerful father-son story and an engaging portrayal of what identity came to mean at this turning point in American history, and shows how the biggest stages in the world can overcome even the greatest of players. Cuba: My revolution by Lockpez Harlem Hellfighter by Brooks quote:In 1919, the 369th infantry regiment marched home triumphantly from World War I. They had spent more time in combat than any other American unit, never losing a foot of ground to the enemy, or a man to capture, and winning countless decorations. Though they returned as heroes, this African American unit faced tremendous discrimination, even from their own government. The Harlem Hellfighters, as the Germans called them, fought courageously on - and off - the battlefield to make Europe, and America, safe for democracy. The Harlem Hellfighters brings this history to life. From the enlistment lines in Harlem to the training camp at Spartanburg, South Carolina, to the trenches in France, Max Brooks tells the heroic story of the 369th in an action-packed and powerful tale of honor and heart. Best of enemies by Filiu quote:It was an American who first described the "Barbary" lands of the Mediterranean basin as "the Middle East" - a region by which America, ever since its own revolutionary foundation, has always measured its power. Acclaimed historian Jean-Pierre Filiu and award-winning artist David B. here tell the story of the blockades, broadsides, and betrayals of this foreign affair - a wary co-dependency that, from the Epic of Gilgamesh to the Eisenhower era, and from gold to oil, has continued to define our modern world. The plot by Eisner quote:The late Will Eisner, the great American master of comics, regarded this, his last work, as his most powerful. This nonfiction book in graphic-novel style examines the outrageous fabrication of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which purports to be the blueprint by Jewish leaders to take over the world. Hatched as an anti-Semitic plot by the Tsar's secret police to deflect widespread criticism of the Russian government, the forgery, first published in 1905, succeeded beyond the propagandistic ambitions of its originators; the lie became an internationally accepted truth. Presenting a pageant of historical figures including Tsar Nicholas II, Henry Ford, and Adolf Hitler, Eisner exposes the twisted history of the Protocols from nineteenth-century Russia to modern-day Klan members to Islamic fundamentalists. The plot unravels one of the most devastating hoaxes of the twentieth century. These are just some that I have pulled from my library's catalog. I have read most of these titles and can vouch for them. Also they were written in the current century. I can try find some more if you guys want other recommendations.
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Scaramouche posted:Transmetropolitan Reread the whole series either during the election or right after and was shocked by how real it was
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Skwirl posted:I meant to only call out Persepolis and especially Maus, screwed up my editing. The planet's billions of years old, man.
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Unmature posted:Reread the whole series either during the election or right after and was shocked by how real it was Yeah I reread it last night. I'm kind of letting it settle in before freaking out too much. It doesn't help that it's essentially evergreen in that respect and can be applied to any set of occurrences between it's publication and today
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Scaramouche posted:Yeah I reread it last night. I'm kind of letting it settle in before freaking out too much. It doesn't help that it's essentially evergreen in that respect and can be applied to any set of occurrences between it's publication and today Yeah I had that thought too. Like "WOW this is upsetting and will only get worse."
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What about Sheriff of Babylon? I haven’t read it yet, but I hear it’s good.
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Open Marriage Night posted:What about Sheriff of Babylon? I haven’t read it yet, but I hear it’s good. I read it recently, and it was very good. Cries out to be adapted, too.
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Sheriff of Babylon is very good. If newer (well, new to being translated) books about older stuff are ok then the two Tardi' books It Was the War of the Trenches and Goddamn This War! are excellent tales about how super-lovely WW1 was for a regular soldier. I've only finished the first Inside Moebius by Jean Giraud but it's good so far, it's about Moebius' thought processes through his characters as he tried to give up smoking pot. Zachack fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Madkal posted:Just pick up any graphic novel by Guy Delisle. Yeah, he did four travelogues and they’re all good: Shenzen, Pyongyang, Burma Chronicles, and Jerusalem. He also did Hostage, which is a first person account from a NGO worker who was kidnapped and held for ransom for four months in Russia. I think that’s the best of his topical books.
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Can I suggest Pride of Baghdad by Brian K. Vaughan? It's about Lion's escaping a zoo during the Gulf War
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Are any of the follow-ups to 1602 Marvel good?
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I liked them well enough. The FF one was ok, the Spider-Man one is good, and the actual sequel was decent enough. Been a while since I read them though
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Neurosis posted:Are any of the follow-ups to 1602 Marvel good? Peter Parquagh became lunch
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Everyone seems to call him Cap. Has he ever corrected someone he thought hadn’t earned it? Like “that’s Captain Rogers to you, boot”
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Beerdeer posted:Everyone seems to call him Cap. Has he ever corrected someone he thought hadn’t earned it? Like “that’s Captain Rogers to you, boot” I don’t think he ever made it past private. I remember a comic where he tells an officer that he should be saluting them.
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I'm pretty sure ranks are entirely meaningless in the marvel u considering Nick fury was a colonel and still lead an organization that gave him command over every armed forces on the planet when necessary E: heck even cap was the head of shield at the end of Hickman's run site fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Nov 26, 2018 |
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What site said, even if Steve Rogers was an enlisted man and was fast-tracked from Private to Captain against regulations, Bucky Barnes never rose above private and Sam Wilson wasn't ever even enlisted, to my knowledge. John Walker had no military experience when they made him Captain America, either. Mar-Vell was actually a Captain in the Kree Space Fleet, but Carol Danvers is/was actually a colonel in the Air Force, which is several ranks higher than Captain. Monica Rambeau was a lieutenant, though maybe she got bumped up a rank when she became a superhero. I don't think most of the other Captains were ever involved with the military or law enforcement. All of this reminds me of the dying days of WCW when they had a comedy stable of low level wrestlers who had a military theme and were called the Misfits in Action (not to be confused with the punk group the Misfits, who also wrestled for WCW concurrently). They included: Captain Hugh G. Rection, who was later promoted to General and was the leader Lieutenant Loco, the Latino member Corporal Cajun, Lt. Loco's tag team partner from New Orleans Sergeant AWOL, a German Major Gunns, a large breasted woman and Private Stash, who had a stoner gimmick. This would have made the hierarchy of the group be: 1) Major Gunns (until Rection got promoted by GI Bro, who had exactly the gimmick you assume he did) 2) Captain Rection 3) Lieutnent Loco 4) Sgt. AWOL 5) Corporal Cajun 6) Private Stash Van Hammer/Private Stash was upset at being ranked the lowest, so after he protested he was renamed (before debuting) as Major Stash, despite still having a stoner gimmick and having recently shaved his mustache. A few weeks later he left the company and a few months after that the faction ended and a few months after that the company died. I am not sure what the point of this is, other than that historically lovely wrestler Van Hammer cares/knows more about military ranks than me, Marvel's editorial, or Vince Russo. 
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Hey E&C, I really got into wrestling around 1997, especially WCW (coinciding with the rise of Goldberg as an unstoppable face), and followed it through some really weird stuff, then the WCW/ECW/WWF mergers, and stuck around until 2004-ish. Watching from week to week and not following the backstage drama online, I always wondered what the hell was going on. Can you recommend a good book that goes into detail on that era, the personalities involved, and the bizarre decisions that were being made?
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Hey E&C, I really got into wrestling around 1997, especially WCW (coinciding with the rise of Goldberg as an unstoppable face), and followed it through some really weird stuff, then the WCW/ECW/WWF mergers, and stuck around until 2004-ish. Watching from week to week and not following the backstage drama online, I always wondered what the hell was going on. Can you recommend a good book that goes into detail on that era, the personalities involved, and the bizarre decisions that were being made? Death of wcw
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bobkatt013 posted:Death of wcw Chris Jericho's first book also goes into some detail about how it started going off the rails, although he jumped ship before Russo came on board if I remember right.
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fire russo 👏👏👏
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Hey E&C, I really got into wrestling around 1997, especially WCW (coinciding with the rise of Goldberg as an unstoppable face), and followed it through some really weird stuff, then the WCW/ECW/WWF mergers, and stuck around until 2004-ish. Watching from week to week and not following the backstage drama online, I always wondered what the hell was going on. Can you recommend a good book that goes into detail on that era, the personalities involved, and the bizarre decisions that were being made? If you like the WCW book and you're really interested in diving into that whole weird period, the most bang for your buck might be paying for a month's subscription to Wrestling Observer/Figure Four Weekly, which is the site co-run by Alvarez and Dave Meltzer. It's $12 a month (you just missed their Black Friday sale) but they've got literally thousands of newsletters and podcasts archived and you could just subscribe, download a shitload of stuff to check out, and unsub. They were both running newsletters throughout that period; Meltzer is probably the best connected and knowledgeable US wrestling guy out there, though his newsletter is like 30,000 self-edited words a week and he definitely has his tics. Alvarez is a trained wrestler and his earlier stuff is sometimes less pure journalism and more opinions/ranting/stuff explicitly influenced by Hunter S. Thompson and "gonzo" journalism. They've also interviewed pretty much everyone involved with that time period repeatedly in the podcast archive, and Alvarez and his friends have been doing a week-by-week rewatch of Raw/Nitro for the past few years, currently up to November 1999. Both of the big creative 'minds' behind the Death of WCW have written book(s) about that time, but both are self-serving and ahistorical, though searching through the Observer newsletters to read Meltzer doing OCD point by point refutations of each book is kind of fun.
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I imagine Director of SHIELD is some sort of appointed position that authorizes command of whatever troops you need at a given time, similar to the Director of CIA.
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Edge & Christian posted:They were both running newsletters throughout that period; Meltzer is probably the best connected and knowledgeable US wrestling guy out there, though his newsletter is like 30,000 self-edited words a week and he definitely has his tics. Alvarez is a trained wrestler and his earlier stuff is sometimes less pure journalism and more opinions/ranting/stuff explicitly influenced by Hunter S. Thompson and "gonzo" journalism. They've also interviewed pretty much everyone involved with that time period repeatedly in the podcast archive, and Alvarez and his friends have been doing a week-by-week rewatch of Raw/Nitro for the past few years, currently up to November 1999. It's still shocking how bad Meltzer is at constructing a sentence when that's been his job for the last few decades.
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Death of WCW it is! Does it go into the "Monday Night Wars" and all that, and talk about the post-merger WWF? I'm interested in what was going on at WWF too.
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