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Sham bam bamina! posted:Link? Alas, Twitter ate it. But I'll see if I can piece it together from notes when I get home.
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latinotwink1997 posted:I personally like longer books and having to invest more time to read them. Why? I don’t quite know the answer to that. If Le Guin is ~200 pages, it wouldn’t hold my interest long enough to be worth it, regardless of the quality. More things happen in A Wizard of Earthsea than in some 1000 page doorstoppers, and all of it memorable.
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So I saw a couple Kingkiller Chronicles at my local library. I’ve never read them and wondered: can these books truly make a chronicles?
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It's false advertising. The framing device makes it explicit that they are actually the Kingkiller Anecdote.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:It's false advertising. The framing device makes it explicit that they are actually the Kingkiller Anecdote. Also no kings get killed. Or are ever likely to unless Rothfuss runs out of money.
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So I’m rewatching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood which is a way better story about a 15 year old magic prodigy with an unusual hair color. It’s convinced me that long fantasy stories gain the most by being done in animation (where ridiculous things come off as less ridiculous) and also reminds me how badly Kingkiller maintains a sense of tension.
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We're supposed to feel tension? I remember just wondering when the gently caress the Chandrian were going to come back.
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The only tension comes from wondering when Bast and Kvothe will bump uglies.
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This is the story of some gently caress and his student loans. Yeah I think other things happen but I don't remember them. I listened to the audiobook so I spent most of the time trying to differentiate between "talent pipes" and "talent coins."
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:We're supposed to feel tension? I remember just wondering when the gently caress the Chandrian were going to come back. Hey, we don't know if there will some day be an attractive woman who isn't overtly bad but also doesn't want to gently caress him.
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Ccs posted:So I’m rewatching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood which is a way better story about a 15 year old magic prodigy with an unusual hair color. It’s convinced me that long fantasy stories gain the most by being done in animation (where ridiculous things come off as less ridiculous) and also reminds me how badly Kingkiller maintains a sense of tension. Trap sprung and all that poo poo but it works in FMA while it fails here because the central event in the story is Ed and Al being severely punished for their prodigious nature, and because in practice all Ed's genius really allows him to do is function at the level of seasoned adults he's surrounded with rather than being able to own them all
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Karnegal posted:Hey, we don't know if there will some day be an attractive woman who isn't overtly bad but also doesn't want to gently caress him. A lady who doesn't want to gently caress Kvothe? You've lost your mind.
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Ccs posted:So I’m rewatching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood which is a way better story about a 15 year old magic prodigy with an unusual hair color. It’s convinced me that long fantasy stories gain the most by being done in animation (where ridiculous things come off as less ridiculous) and also reminds me how badly Kingkiller maintains a sense of tension. Okay but hear me out: KKC would not be significantly improved by being animated and FMA:B would not be significantly worse if it were a book series. The difference between the two isn’t about how ridiculous things look, it’s that KKC is a bad story with bad characters and FMA:B is a good story with good characters. FMA:B has actual clear themes that the story directly supports, KKC does not.
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Benson Cunningham posted:A lady who doesn't want to gently caress Kvothe? You've lost your mind.
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Doctor Faustine posted:Okay but hear me out: I think Kingkiller wouldn’t be as bad animated because a 15 year old being awesome at everything comes off as less absurd in animation. It would probably be an above average anime when compared with all the Isekai nonsense that sells like hot cakes. I can’t picture real people in the setting saying the lines from Kingkiller but I can imagine that dialogue from anime characters. Characters like Auri would also fit better because she’s basically an anime cliche already. I cannot imagine that character in any way being played by a real human and coming off as anything less than grossly insulting
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You haven't explained how being an anime would improve the book; you have merely stated the obvious fact that anime is bad.
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Nov 19, 2018 21:39
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Sounds like Rothfuss probably watches lots of anime
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Ccs posted:I think Kingkiller wouldn’t be as bad animated because a 15 year old being awesome at everything comes off as less absurd in animation. It would probably be an above average anime when compared with all the Isekai nonsense that sells like hot cakes. I can’t picture real people in the setting saying the lines from Kingkiller but I can imagine that dialogue from anime characters. Counterpoint: Sword Art Online is an anime about a fifteen year old being awesome at everything and, even though it’s animated, it still loving sucks. The problem with KKC isn’t that it’s hard to buy a character being good at everything in book format. The problems with KKC are it’s meandering nonplot, complete lack of stakes, and extremely bland characters. None of these things would improve by virtue of it being animated; in fact, the only way animating KkC could improve it would be if in the adaptation process they changed a shitload about it. Literally the only thing you’ve proven is that most anime fans have 0 standards. Doctor Faustine fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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Doctor Faustine posted:Counterpoint: Sword Art Online is an anime about a fifteen year old being awesome at everything and, even though it’s animated, it still loving sucks. That's not fair at all Kirito is good at one thing, Kvothe isn't just good at music, and applies that to magic or something no hes good at EVERYTHING, except for relationships. Basically he's a more lame version of a John Ringo protagonist, who's only flaw is getting laid too much.
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Doctor Faustine posted:
explains why every anime on Netflix is rated five stars
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Pretty sure that was the joke. I was being sarcastic you idiot.
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Wheeee posted:explains why every anime on Netflix is rated five stars Netflix's shown "ratings" are actually an algorithm predicting how you'll like a show or movie based on viewers with similar viewing habits leaving their own ratings. So cool self own I suppose?
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FMA good, Kingkiller bad
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Sham bam bamina! posted:No, I picked up on that. Then you have a pretty limited grasp on normal social interaction.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:No, I picked up on that.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Impossible, it's 500 pages too short  That's better than any response I had HIJK posted:Sounds like Rothfuss probably watches lots of anime I always pegged Sanderson for the anime fan since all of his books read like an anime - a big excuse to have a convoluted fighting system with too many technique names.
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At least the characters dont yell the name of the skill while performing it.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:You haven't explained how being an anime would improve the book; you have merely stated the obvious fact that anime is bad. Alright it would still be as bad but it would be less obviously absurd as an animated adaption vs a live action adaption.
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animation is the only medium able to capture the depth and feeling of those sex scenes.
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Karnegal posted:
Mistborn really pissed me off with how badly written the fight scenes were. Everybody is spider-manning all over the place, flinging themselves crazily through the air, and it should be all graceful and frenetic. But aside from a few early fights it's written in such turgid detail that it's a boring slog to get through. So he even fails at being entertaining schlock.
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ShinsoBEAM! posted:That's not fair at all Kirito is good at one thing, Kvothe isn't just good at music, and applies that to magic or something no hes good at EVERYTHING, except for relationships. It's like when he was living on the streets, until he realized that he could effortlessly talk his way into free boots and admittance to the top magic school. Or when he was unable to pay for tuition, until he remembered that he was the greatest musician and could just go win a contest. You could probably make an interesting story about someone with godlike powers but crippling self-doubt, but I don't think Rothfuss is the author to do it. Instead, Kvothe just fails to apply himself when it would otherwise break the story.
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Even just a bit of sense would tell you that Abercrombie and Sanderson are as bad as Rothfuss. Hell, Rothfuss even has both beat in terms of psychological complexity, because he recognizes that there are other things in life than gruff men of violence talking about how bad everything is and endless magic anime fights.
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Benson Cunningham posted:Then you have a pretty limited grasp on normal social interaction. From reading their posts, yea, I've picked up on that
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Even just a bit of sense would tell you that Abercrombie and Sanderson are as bad as Rothfuss. Ah I see, you haven't read Sanderson.
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What aspect of Sanderson's nuanced writing have I ignored?
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Even just a bit of sense would tell you that Abercrombie and Sanderson are as bad as Rothfuss. This tells me nothing of the prose.
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Their prose is equally bad.,
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Sorry mate, you forgot the two most important parts of any good book. The page count and the World-Building
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third: penis
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