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Big Mean Jerk posted:Going all in on the blue/orange is probably the worst thing about it, right after the salt lamp crystal aesthetic The crystal fingers around the edge just look so bad. The rest is pretty decent tbh, but the fingers are such a big feature it's hard to see past them.
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Cerv posted:things that are bad: making disparaging 'robophobic' comments. I loved the mention of robophobia. Brought the big finish Robophobia to mind which is probably up in my top 5 big finish. (was odd watching Robots of Death for the first time after being very familiar with robophobia)
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I loved this episode until I sat down and thought about it afterward the political stuff's been... pretty thoroughly covered and I can't contribute much more in that regard, but okay so the system can send one (1) robot man in to try and choke out Charlie while the rest of the gang is present to defend him, why couldn't it do that when Charlie was by himself, maybe even like... sending way more robots to do it. System clearly has no issue murdering somebody, just kill Charlie the second he's busy unclogging a shitter somewhere Charlie helping Graham get a map of the facility feels real weird in retrospect. If my ultimate plan to build a robot army in the basement is juuust about to come to fruition, helping this mysterious stranger learn the entire layout of the building might be a bad idea? Why is there liquification goo in the basement--did Charlie teleport a big ol' tub of it down there and no one noticed?--why doesn't it liquify the ankle monitors, why are no efforts made to dispose of the ankle monitors after the rest of the evidence is so meticulously disposed of, why do the ankle monitors read as online still "the system has a conscience," she says, like two minutes after the system straight up murdered someone with exploding bubble wrap, which the system could get access to independent of Charlie and without him even being aware of it until it was too late, why could the robots not just kill Charl--wait I already did that one, why didn't the two robots with access to the exploding bubble wrap and freedom to teleport around without Charlie's awareness not just like, take that poo poo to the Doctor (whom the system can locate at all times), I know if a robot walked up to me and handed me bubble wrap for no reason I'd start asking questions I know it's a cheesy sci-fi show and there's gonna be a plot hole here and there, but like this whole episode is just kind of haphazardly stapled together edit: The interrogation room they put the girl in had chairs, right? Am I remembering that right? Why the hell did it have chairs? Why the hell was there an interrogation room? They said nobody goes down there, is this Charlie's secret break room or Lunatic Sledge fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Lunatic Sledge posted:Charlie helping Graham get a map of the facility feels real weird in retrospect. If my ultimate plan to build a robot army in the basement is juuust about to come to fruition, helping this mysterious stranger learn the entire layout of the building might be a bad idea? Charlie had no reason to think Graham was anything but what he seemed, a lovely older man in over his head who wanted some help figuring out how to get around - plus maybe he could give him some advice on how to flirt with Kira! The fact he didn't see that Graham was putting on a bit of an act is nicely ironic, since Charlie was doing the same thing and relying on everybody else thinking he was what he thought Graham was: a nobody.
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Nov 20, 2018 10:27
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Jerusalem posted:Charlie had no reason to think Graham was anything but what he seemed, a lovely older man in over his head who wanted some help figuring out how to get around - plus maybe he could give him some advice on how to flirt with Kira! The fact he didn't see that Graham was putting on a bit of an act is nicely ironic, since Charlie was doing the same thing and relying on everybody else thinking he was what he thought Graham was: a nobody. I kind of liked the slight panic at Graham's little joke about "Being able to pick up on the most delicate of social cues" I like to think that was partially a concern like "poo poo does he suspect?" until Graham admitted he was joking about his crush.
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Nov 20, 2018 10:47
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Thinking about it this is yet another episode where the Doctor lets villains go unpunished.sunnyboy posted:Well, I'll give them props for doing one thing right in this episode. Given the number of times the phrase "Kerblam runs on PEOPLE", I was fully expecting a Matrix type reveal. You know - people in some skiffy type hamster wheel in the basement. I don’t know who that is.
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Nov 20, 2018 14:21
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Jim Varney would have been a great companion to the Doctor if you think about it.
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I thought the people goo was going to be some kind of fuel to solve the power problem for a bit
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Lunatic Sledge posted:okay so the system can send one (1) robot man in to try and choke out Charlie while the rest of the gang is present to defend him, why couldn't it do that when Charlie was by himself, maybe even like... sending way more robots to do it. System clearly has no issue murdering somebody, just kill Charlie the second he's busy unclogging a shitter somewhere That's...hey, yeah, why didn't the system just kill Charlie?
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No Doctor Who Xmas Special  [e]: It's a joke video  VVV Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Nov 20, 2018 16:04
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We know. It's been discussed for a while, and frankly, considering we've kinda touched on every single Christmas theme, it's not a bad idea.
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Nov 20, 2018 16:55
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I think the Doctor has only ever done New Year's twice, anyway - once during the Tennant specials and once with the TV movie.
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Nov 20, 2018 19:54
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If a postman robot can teleport into the Tardis with a bomb, why can't the Cybermen.
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Nov 20, 2018 20:20
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Because that'd threaten to be interesting.
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happyhippy posted:If a postman robot can teleport into the Tardis with a bomb, why can't the Cybermen. The Doctor has the settings on to allow for packages, Time Lord message cubes, and psychic paper messages from scared children.
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Nov 20, 2018 20:43
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marktheando posted:Thinking about it this is yet another episode where the Doctor lets villains go unpunished. Just wait for the usual Christmas roundup of terrible X-Mas movies. Somewhere in the endless stream of Santa-Clause movies you should get "Earnest Saves Christmas". It's really hard to watch, but worth it if only for the "helper elms" running gag. IMO. YYMV.
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It's just Ernest, everyone, he's not an adjective. I will go to my grave claiming that Ernest Goes to Jail is a work of art, and it's a crying shame Jim Varney died of lung cancer before he could somehow be in an episode of Doctor Who as a carnival barker or something.
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Nov 20, 2018 21:47
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You know combining the New Years theme with the ongoing political discussion, how about that Obama speech that was going to save the world's economy?
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Nov 20, 2018 22:23
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thrawn527 posted:That's...hey, yeah, why didn't the system just kill Charlie? It tried. Those darn humans got in the way! Poor planning on its part really, everybody knows that Julie Hesmondhalgh will decapitate anything that gets within 3 feet of her given half the chance.
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Nov 20, 2018 22:33
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Give me Salamander or give me death. He's currently making his push for world domination. I would even take an in-episode onscreen chyron about him meeting with Trump.
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Nov 20, 2018 22:39
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Earnest is the best thing of the 90s and no one can ever prove otherwise
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Bicyclops posted:The Doctor has the settings on to allow for packages, Time Lord message cubes, and psychic paper messages from scared children. So what's the Tardis' postal address then. And to deliver to a time machine, you need time travel detection to detect where to go and time teleportation to it. Meaning the robots were Tardises themselves. So the Kerblam company is just as powerful as Gallifrey. Just without the heavy robes and headgear.
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Nah, the Doctor just said,"Deliver it to me here in the TARDIS" and then promptly forgot about it, and then a few centuries later the TARDIS happened to pass near enough by at roughly the same time as the original order that the poor Kerblam! Man in the teleport beam locked on and got dragged along into the vortex along with it trying to complete the order! Or if you wanna be MORE nerdy about it, Kerblam! was founded by the Gods of Ragnarok, so Twirly and the like are made with the same tech as the Advertising Bot from The Greatest Show in the Galaxy 
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Jerusalem posted:I still laugh when I think about 11 wandering about in the console one night inbetween distinct adventures with Clara and River and deciding,"I'll get the Kerblam! Man to bring me a new Fez!" and then complete forgetting about it for roughly 800 years. Same. happyhippy posted:So what's the Tardis' postal address then. happyhippy posted:If a postman robot can teleport into the Tardis with a bomb, why can't the Cybermen. The TARDIS knew that the Doctor had ordered the package so let it in. As for how the package knew where the TARDIS was, I assume they just happened to be moving through the same part of space that they were however many centuries ago when the Doctor placed the order. That would be a nice little scene at some point actually, a standard shot of the TARDIS moving through space/time but we see another one go zooming past in the opposite direction. Inside a companion asks "What was that?" and the Doc mentions it's them as well. Maybe from the past, or perhaps the future. Generally best to try and stay out of each others way.
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happyhippy posted:So what's the Tardis' postal address then.
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CommonShore posted:The Sun Makers A few issues with The Sun Makers: 1. Bob Holmes wrote it as an anti-taxation screed. Making it aimed at a Company and not a government makes it OK, ish, but I support taxation, so I have mixed feelings about that. 2. It's unclear how many of the revolutionaries get gunned down. Surprisingly few based on what we see. Evidently the Company cut corners with the Inner Retinue. 3. So the Company has been defeated, and maybe the humans will return to a revitalized Earth (though evidence suggests they will mess it up again later, environment-wise). Who is going to lead them? Cordo? Mandrel, Mr. "do it or die" in the undercity? The ex-Company employee? We know Earth still has money and corporations in the future, so the revolution doesn't seem to have produced meaningful change. (Fake edit: plus what ewe2 said on the last page.)
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Charlie: "I'm blowing things up so more humans get hired!" <later> Judy: "We're hiring more humans." What a weird ending.
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Jerusalem posted:It tried. Those darn humans got in the way! It sent the "HELP" thing previously and knew very well what was going on so????
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Narsham posted:So the Company has been defeated, and maybe the humans will return to a revitalized Earth (though evidence suggests they will mess it up again later, environment-wise). Who is going to lead them? Expanded Universe Says:  her, off Sarah Jane Adventures.
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thinking about twelve's console room, I went back and did some screencaps       this one is before he put more round things on the walls 
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Absolutely my favorite non-TV movie Tardis. They really nailed it. Thirteen's is suuuuuuuuch a step down from that.
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Ya, it's the best one ever.
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Terry Grunthouse posted:thinking about twelve's console room, I went back and did some screencaps I’m not a fan of this console room, but I do think it looked better during 11’s tenure when the rotor and other lights were more blue/green than orange.
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What a garbage loving episode lmao
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Now to be fair, maybe the reason 12's console room looks go good is because Moffat spent an entire year's worth of budget on building it? Then got upset when the BBC found out and he had to pretend he'd commissioned it for the series and not a redecoration of his own living room.
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The final version of 11/12's console room is the absolute best. What companions have seen the most variations? Sarah-Jane? edit: Or maybe Clara.
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Edward Mass posted:Charlie: "I'm blowing things up so more humans get hired!" lol, yeah, the episode goes out of the way to create a labor rights villain who's all "Nothing is too extreme for my cause! I'm a revolutionary, violence be damned!" with a ludicrous, ultra-violent, murdering-innocents plan, but ultimately, the "big" societal changes of them maybe hiring more humans to work menial jobs and never see their families that we're meant to see as a happy ending are... actually a direct result of Charlie's terrorism and not the Doctor's intervention? This episode would be like if the if the Red Eye Ood had gathered a psychic explosive to erase humanity, and the Doctor had given a big speech about how it wasn't the Ood corporation that was the problem, it was the way people were using the Ood corporation, and then, after the Doctor put a stop to the Ood rebellion, the Hair Tonic Guy had said "I'm starting my own company, where the Ood 'servants' you buy get to keep their tiny hand-brains, as long as they don't sing with them."
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Same destination, but the Doctor got fewer people killed getting there
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Terry Grunthouse posted:thinking about twelve's console room, I went back and did some screencaps Man, that thing’s gorgeous. Have some of my pics from my set visit. 
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Azhais posted:Same destination, but the Doctor got fewer people killed getting there And the way the Odd got one back on the guy was noted as being monumentally hosed. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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