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The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
The criminal courts have a huge backlog, and I'm sure a good number of those are small-time pot charges. Legalization could help shorten waiting times and overcrowding at Cook County Jail.

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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

The X-man cometh posted:

The criminal courts have a huge backlog, and I'm sure a good number of those are small-time pot charges. Legalization could help shorten waiting times and overcrowding at Cook County Jail.

lol implying overcrowding prisons is a bug and not a feature.

ArgaWarga
Apr 8, 2005

dare to fail gloriously

Personally I think licenses for growers and sellers should be given to those with weed convictions previously along with full exoneration but that will never happen.

The crown poo poo jewel of the things Pritzker has talked about has to be the casino. Look at the way his eyes light up every time he talks about it! Let's take a state where the biggest city is already vilified for its crime problems and add a casino :hmmyes:

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009

ArgaWarga posted:

Personally I think licenses for growers and sellers should be given to those with weed convictions previously along with full exoneration but that will never happen.


Christan Mitchell has been talking a lot about how marijuana legalization needs to address affected communities, and he's in the transition team. So it will probably be considered in some way, but who knows what will happen.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

ArgaWarga posted:

Personally I think licenses for growers and sellers should be given to those with weed convictions previously along with full exoneration but that will never happen.

The crown poo poo jewel of the things Pritzker has talked about has to be the casino. Look at the way his eyes light up every time he talks about it! Let's take a state where the biggest city is already vilified for its crime problems and add a casino :hmmyes:

Now why in the world would an heir to a hotel chain who also has a riverboat business be interested in expanding casinos? :iiam:

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Pity we will never know

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




I want to smoke weed with JB.

that billionaire weed

ArgaWarga
Apr 8, 2005

dare to fail gloriously

banned from Starbucks posted:

I want to smoke weed with JB.

that billionaire weed

Elon not returning your calls?

Sound Insect
May 27, 2010

So I'm genuinely curious about the extent to which Madigan and state Democrats allegedly deserve blame for the state's financial situation. The vast majority of information I find on this subject feels like it's coming straight from the IPI, or it's the Tribune waxing poetic about Indiana. If I ask on /r/chicago, I'll just get a bunch of responses from libertarian crypto-fascists.

From what I keep reading, our pension situation can't be resolved without changes to the state constitution, and Democrats are allegedly blocking changes from ever being made. I have a hard time accepting that the situation is that simple, because state Republicans don't seem satisfied simply pursuing a fix to the pension crisis, but want to pursue additional GOP goals like deregulation, cutting services, cutting taxes, union busting, etc.

Is there a place where I can read up on why this is such a difficult issue to tackle? Obviously in a situation regarding Illinois politics, corruption and ineptitude can't be ruled out, but sometimes this feels like a cop out. Tell me what it is, goons

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Sound Insect posted:

So I'm genuinely curious about the extent to which Madigan and state Democrats allegedly deserve blame for the state's financial situation. The vast majority of information I find on this subject feels like it's coming straight from the IPI, or it's the Tribune waxing poetic about Indiana. If I ask on /r/chicago, I'll just get a bunch of responses from libertarian crypto-fascists.

From what I keep reading, our pension situation can't be resolved without changes to the state constitution, and Democrats are allegedly blocking changes from ever being made. I have a hard time accepting that the situation is that simple, because state Republicans don't seem satisfied simply pursuing a fix to the pension crisis, but want to pursue additional GOP goals like deregulation, cutting services, cutting taxes, union busting, etc.

Is there a place where I can read up on why this is such a difficult issue to tackle? Obviously in a situation regarding Illinois politics, corruption and ineptitude can't be ruled out, but sometimes this feels like a cop out. Tell me what it is, goons

The problem has been ongoing for 40+ years, with both parties in their turn kicking the can of funding pensions down the road and spending like there was no tomorrow, with Republicans refusing to raise taxes when they were in charge and Dems getting shellacked the times they did raise taxes.

The situation cannot be resolved without changes to the state constitution, and now that Democrats have supermajorities in both houses and the governorship they can, theoretically, call one and do the needful, which means they will be solely on the hook for slashing pensions and raising taxes, which you can bet your rear end the Republicans will run on in the next election and will lose them seats. They want that fig leaf of bipartisanship and they won't get it, and they don't have the courage to bite the bullet and fix poo poo, because the recipients of those pensions are state workers (read: Democratic base). And honestly the workers have the right to be pissed off, they just want what they were promised. Its a clusterfuck and it will never be solved unless they discover oil or diamonds or some poo poo on state land.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
Pissed off state workers probably cost Quinn the election.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
I dunno, I just better get my loving step raises and the pay I should have been getting the past 5 years.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

quote:

House Speaker Michael Madigan, who also chairs the Democratic Party of Illinois, gave indication on Tuesday that Democratic leaders will present a unified front.
He told reporters he’s had several “very friendly and very productive” conversations with Gov.-elect J.B. Pritzker since last week’s election, and that he backs two of Pritkzer’s major campaign promises – legalizing marijuana, and moving from a flat to a graduated income tax.
Madigan helped to draft the current constitution, which forbids taxing on an income-based sliding scale; it would be difficult to amend the state constitution without his muscle.



Promising.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Oracle posted:

And honestly the workers have the right to be pissed off, they just want what they were promised. Its a clusterfuck and it will never be solved unless they discover oil or diamonds or some poo poo on state land.

I mean yeah but they were promised anything and everything that would secure their unions endorsements, so it's not like they were reasonable offers. It would've been a sweet deal for them if they had funded the pensions instead of throwing all the money at contractors to secure their unions endorsements also, but thems machine politics for you. Classic have your cake and eat it too.

is weed legal yet

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Dang, one on hand it was unlikely for pritzker to be so pro-weed if madigan opposed it, but I wasn't expecting the full-on push for recreational this soon:

quote:

State Sen. Heather Steans and state Rep. Kelly Cassidy introduced legislation last March to legalize recreational cannabis in Illinois, but the bills failed in both houses of the Legislature.

A lot has since changed in Illinois politics, and the Chicago Democrats now plan to give it another try.

On Election Day, pro-pot Democrat J.B. Pritzker cruised to victory past Gov. Bruce Rauner and fellow Democrats expanded the party’s majorities in both houses of the General Assembly. On top of that, powerful Illinois House Speaker Mike Madigan announced last week that he now supports Pritzker’s proposal to legalize marijuana for adult use.

When lawmakers reconvene in January for the first legislative session of the new year, Steans and Cassidy plan to introduce new legislation aimed at fully legalizing weed.

“It is a more encouraging landscape, for sure,” Steans said. “Particularly since Governor Rauner had been pretty outspoken in opposing [legalization].”

“It definitely has shifted the environment and we think that it gives us a lot more momentum to get it passed in the General Assembly in short order,” she added.

While many details are still being hashed out, the plan would legalize the sale and use of cannabis for people over 21 years old and include a six-month period for officials to create rules and issue licenses should it be passed into law.

Steans and Cassidy have already been getting input from various groups in Springfield and discussing their plan with Pritzker, who made recreational pot legalization a centerpiece of his gubernatorial campaign.

“JB supports legalizing and taxing the recreational use of marijuana, and is confident we are ready to do this in a safe and economically beneficial way in Illinois,” said Jason Rubin, a Pritzker spokesman. “As governor, he is committed to working with leaders in the General Assembly, listening to experts and community leaders, and drawing lessons and best practices from other states to move this forward.”

https://chicago.suntimes.com/cannab...er-jb-pritzker/

(and of course the anti-weed SAM campaigning against it has patrick kennedy as an advisor. Every last kennedy needs to stfu when it comes to anything to do with weed, especially when half of them have committed felonies under booze & prescription drugs.)

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Willa Rogers posted:

Dang, one on hand it was unlikely for pritzker to be so pro-weed if madigan opposed it, but I wasn't expecting the full-on push for recreational this soon:


https://chicago.suntimes.com/cannab...er-jb-pritzker/

(and of course the anti-weed SAM campaigning against it has patrick kennedy as an advisor. Every last kennedy needs to stfu when it comes to anything to do with weed, especially when half of them have committed felonies under booze & prescription drugs.)

Something positive from the statehouse! Amazing!

Can we talk about the Chicago Mayoral election in here? I have zero clue who to vote for, and I'm not even sure if there has been any polling yet. Signatures are now being turned in, so that we weed out some of the candidates. I imagine Preckwinkle has the advantage, but Mendoza probably has some backing from the machine, and then you have Enyia who is getting free publicity from Chance and Kanye.

Something I just learned, you can only sign a petition for one candidate. If you signed for multiple ones, then the only petition signature that counts is the one you signed first, but the date signed is not always known. Fun stuff.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.
It seems too early to really tell. There’s a ton of candidates and there’s no one particularly exciting.

But gently caress McCarthy, Daley, and Vallas. Mendoza seems fairly suspect too.

Unless someone really distinguishes themselves I’ll probably vote for Toni.

Man_of_Teflon
Aug 15, 2003

most of them suck in various ways imho

- mccarthy sucks because ACAB
- daley sucks because daley
- vallas sucks because of daley admin history (and he is a financial wonk or whatever)
- chico sucks because of daley admin history (chief of staff lol)
- valencia sucks because of emanuel admin history
- preckwickle sucks for supporting berrios who was typical of terrible chicago politics
- mendoza sucks because she is an establishment politician who will take no concrete stances
- lightfoot sucks from prior service in OPS when CPD was extra terrible, also she led the police board during some stupid poo poo
- fioretti sold out and endorsed rahm last election
- brown is corrupt, ford probably is too, green is a protest candidate, sales-griffin would be a slightly more human zuck, and idk anything about kozlar or kelly.

so, you should vote for Amara or Willie Wilson or perennial candidate William 'Dock' Walls (i'm sad LaRaviere dropped out).

(vote for Amara)

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Bird in a Blender posted:

Something positive from the statehouse! Amazing!

Can we talk about the Chicago Mayoral election in here? I have zero clue who to vote for, and I'm not even sure if there has been any polling yet. Signatures are now being turned in, so that we weed out some of the candidates. I imagine Preckwinkle has the advantage, but Mendoza probably has some backing from the machine, and then you have Enyia who is getting free publicity from Chance and Kanye.

Something I just learned, you can only sign a petition for one candidate. If you signed for multiple ones, then the only petition signature that counts is the one you signed first, but the date signed is not always known. Fun stuff.

Yah; Enyia was forced to drop out of the last mayoral race bc of signature challenges. I just came across a Trib story about how the petition challenges favor old-style establishment pols, from the wired lawyers who work for them to the people who rule on the challenges to the county employees like Preckwinkle who have 24/7 access to the signatures.

It's the most typically Chicago-politics system you could come up with.

I don't live in the city, but if I did I'd vote for Amara:

quote:

Enyia is the daughter of Nigerian dissidents who settled in the Chicago suburbs in the 1970s and continued to be active in their country’s politics. She speaks five languages and competes in Ironman triathlons. Her campaign has included running on neighborhood streets, joining would-be constituents in one- and three-mile jogs.

***

Enyia advocates for an elected school board, a public bank, restorative justice, a boom in cooperative enterprises and greatly increased government transparency. She’s campaigned around the city, spending quality time in neighborhoods that residents say Emanuel and other candidates in the race ignore.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/19/amara-enyia-chicago-mayor-candidate-chance-the-rapper-kanye-west?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
Amara is a total fake. She didn't get challenged, she never filed her signatures because she didn't collect enough.

She then endorsed Bob Fioretti. She also endorsed Chris Kennedy, who was the only Democratic candidate against a $15 minimum wage.

She worked for Daley, too and, her nonprofits were funded by Machine insiders.

And then there's Kanye.

Man_of_Teflon
Aug 15, 2003

I'm not surprised she didn't get enough signatures, she was pretty unknown last time around. I am surprised to learn that both her and LaRaviere endorsed Kennedy... I wonder if they didn't endorse Biss because of the (dumb) way he dropped Ramirez-Rosa as running mate. I agree that is a lame move.

Her involvement with the Daley administration is less concerning to me than the others, and I'm pretty sure that most non-profits here take money from insiders.

Kanye is a mess to have involved but I do feel like he only got involved because of Chance. Basically I trust Chance and Amara both to actually give a poo poo about Chicagoans in a broader sense.

Best of the worst I guess? Hard to find someone squeaky clean around here.

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

I know it's early and there will probably be some terrible stuff I'll find out about her, but I'm leaning toward Mendoza. She's really smart and did a great job as Comptroller. That transparency bill she pushed ended up being vital in getting Rauner out of office.

Then again maybe she just looks good because the competition looks so weak.

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
the chicago mayoral election is going to be like the st louis one - you don't vote for a candidate so much as you vote against the people you don't like

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

the chicago mayoral election is going to be like the st louis one - you don't vote for a candidate so much as you vote against the people you don't like

that is every election for every race everywhere

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Amara went to high school with my wife, so that means I’ll probably vote for her unless something stupid comes up. That and she seems to be the most progressive candidate so far, which is an actual good reason to vote for her.

Mendoza is probably my second choice, maybe Preckwinkle after that. It’s kind of a mish mash of people in the middle of the ticket.

Clouseau
Aug 3, 2003

My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie.
Enyia endorsing Fioretti is one of the weirder things about her. That guy seems like such a transparent phony, and that's before he flipped and endorsed Emanuel.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
She says a lot of progressive things and has never actually acted on any of them during her entire career.

Literally none.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Happy final day to file for a mayoral Run Chicago goons.

How are you all up north celebrating this fine day of petition filing.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Dexo posted:

Happy final day to file for a mayoral Run Chicago goons.

How are you all up north celebrating this fine day of petition filing.

We're getting snowed on and asking candidates for their stance on dibs.

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

I know Mendoza is an unknown of sorts but the way she totally hosed over Rauner is admirable. She seems really smart, especially on the financial issues which the city could probably use help on.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
In terms of pure competence, Mendoza is the best candidate by far.

Unfortunately, she's pretty conservative for Chicago, and she's always worked closely with the establishment.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Niwrad posted:

I know Mendoza is an unknown of sorts but the way she totally hosed over Rauner is admirable. She seems really smart, especially on the financial issues which the city could probably use help on.

This is why I like her where she is. The new Dem gov coming in needs someone to do the numbers and tell him realistically why what he wants is or isn't going to work, cuz you know Pritzker is goin be in there all

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
Speaking of Mendoza and Amara:

https://twitter.com/kylehillman/status/1067256414379360256

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Amara getting that many signatures is encouraging. It shows she can pull enough support and volunteers together to work the doors. I was actually concerned she wouldn't get enough.

I always thought the rule of thumb was to come in with 3x the amount of signatures required, which is like 36,000. She probably got a late start, but I imagine a lot of the other front runners are going to gun for her to get her off the ballot. I guess we find out in a few weeks who survives. Last big election we went from 20 candidates to 6 after signature challenges.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


https://twitter.com/rap30/status/10...ingawful.com%2F

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
Federal agents took over Ed Burke's office today.

https://twitter.com/CarolMarin/status/1068175257939443712?s=19

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

i believe i can speak for all in the great city of chicago not presently employed by the CPD, and indeed the whole of the great state of illinois, when I say: "heh"

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

About drat time.

Edited for link with more info. Of course its related to Trump because of course it is.

quote:

Burke has been targeted for defeat by Congressman-elect Jesus “Chuy” Garcia because of his property-tax appeal work on the riverfront tower that bears the name of President Donald Trump.

Garcia, a former alderman and departing member of the Cook County Board of Commissioners, said Burke’s work for Trump was disrespectful to his Hispanic constituents, who are now a majority in his ward.

“The fact that he has been Trump’s lawyer on reducing his property taxes and has been part of the property tax system in Chicago that has affected working people more than anybody else in a regressive manner are issues that have to be taken into account,” Garcia said earlier this year.

“It was highly offensive to the community,” Garcia added at the time. “Anyone who isn’t representing the community’s interests should be worried.”

Colleagues have been wondering aloud why Burke even is running for re-election.

Over the years, Burke also has come under fire for representing clients doing business with the city, requiring him to abstain from many votes.

He also has come under scrutiny for the $100 million city worker-compensation fund operated out of his committee. That fund also was walled off from the jurisdiction of the city inspector general even as the inspector general was given power to investigate aldermen.
I love how the article includes a picture of his pristinely-cleared street in front of his house after that big storm in 2015.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Burke's been co-mixing his public position & his law firm's business for decades (as has Madigan); the federal investigation is likely bc of this:

quote:

Over the years, Burke also has come under fire for representing clients doing business with the city, requiring him to abstain from many votes.

He also has come under scrutiny for the $100 million city worker-compensation fund operated out of his committee. That fund also was walled off from the jurisdiction of the city inspector general even as the inspector general was given power to investigate aldermen.

His law firm specializes in tax-assessment abatement; I doubt his work for Trump is anything other than "one of many." But Garcia's right inasmuch as Burke should've dropped Trump as a client after he was elected president.

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The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
A couple of people have pointed out that his firm wasn't raided. Just his campaign office and the finance committee office.

So probably just standard Chicago corruption. I hope he takes down a bunch of machine hacks with him.

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