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Grand Theft Autobot posted:No, the interpretation here is that Chaffee Would Have Won. need to see the metrics for this one
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The electoral college is loving bogus and has absolutely no place in a modern society.
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Screaming Idiot posted:The electoral college is loving bogus and has absolutely no place in a modern society.
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Screaming Idiot posted:The electoral college is loving bogus and has absolutely no place in a modern society. Lock up the 2016 electors for treason
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Nov 21, 2018 19:48
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Opposing democracy to own the libs
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Nov 21, 2018 19:56
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I'm not saying the polular vote shouldn't be how the presidential election is decided, I'm saying it isn't and it realistically never will be.
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Nov 21, 2018 20:08
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:I'm not saying the polular vote shouldn't be how the presidential election is decided, I'm saying it isn't and it realistically never will be. Maybe if a constitutional amendment got rid of the Electoral College but replaced it with equivalent vote multipliers, it could pass. Instead of a popular vote amendment with red states against it, it'd be blue states and red states ganging up on the swing states. Such an amendment would also get rid of the House being the tiebreaker in the event a presidential candidate fails to obtain a majority of electoral votes.
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Nov 21, 2018 20:50
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the amendment process itself is based off of a majority of states rather than population, so we're completely stuck with the constitution as-is until we decide to completely replace the entire thing, which won't happen without blood
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Nov 21, 2018 20:55
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mods please move this thread to d&d tia
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Nov 21, 2018 20:55
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Typo posted:this is objectively wrong though, she got 48% or so of the votes if she had 50% + 1 vote she would have won
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Nov 21, 2018 21:12
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bawfuls posted:lol wtf is this?? it's d&d pedantry
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Nov 21, 2018 21:14
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:I'm not saying the polular vote shouldn't be how the presidential election is decided, I'm saying it isn't and it realistically never will be. The most realistic chance of it happening in the foreseeable future would be the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, but all the big blue states have already passed it and it's going to be a much tougher sell elsewhere. But hey, maybe in a blue wave year enough states would be willing to climb on board. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
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Nov 21, 2018 21:24
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:I'm not saying the polular vote shouldn't be how the presidential election is decided, I'm saying it isn't and it realistically never will be. Not with that attitude it won't 
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Nov 21, 2018 21:58
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The midterms are essentially over and this thread has devolved into a bunch of stupid opinions it's time to close it
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Nov 21, 2018 22:10
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it aint over til the last house race is called!
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Nov 21, 2018 22:21
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this thread is simply a preview of the Horrors to come when the primaries start up
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logikv9 posted:this thread is simply a preview of the Horrors to come when the primaries start up the primaries started two weeks ago
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Nov 21, 2018 23:50
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Typo posted:a democrat would have won 2008 no matter what, the extent of democratic victory had more to do with iraq war and great recession than obama's personal appeal A quality candidate could have blown Trump the gently caress out in 2016.
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Like, a first term or "theoretically legal third term" Obama would have won by a bigly margin, and I'm not sure how anyone would even begin to construct an argument against that. Btw I'm leaving Bernie out because I know you'll melt down if someone suggests he also would have won (he would have).
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Vox Nihili posted:A quality candidate could have blown Trump the gently caress out in 2016. Seriously. I actually think just a "not historically terrible" candidate would have Trump BTFO in 2016. Everyone made a big deal about how trumps overall favorability numbers were the worst ever for a incoming presidential candidate, but Hillary was the second worst. I think she was literally just like 3 points better than him on favorability while herself being like 9 points worse than the third worst candidate (who I believe was also named Clinton). One of my big worries is that the Democrat establishment and primary voters basically decide:, "what if 2016 campaign, but not Hillary??" They run with it, (prob Booker or Biden) win 2020, fail to change or fix anything, and the republicans come back in 4-8 years with a semi competent, non-sundowning fascist. They really need to make it clear in the primary\general that they have learned some kind of lesson beyond "don't run an incompetent charisma vacuum" and yes, I know I shouldn't sign my posts
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bernie would have beat trump in a blowout at least as big as obama's against mccain an obama third term vs trump would have won by like 15 percentage points
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Nov 22, 2018 00:27
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Screaming Idiot posted:The electoral college is loving bogus and has absolutely no place in a modern society.
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Nov 22, 2018 00:28
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literally any other candidate would have beaten trump in 2016
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Nov 22, 2018 00:29
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lmao trump would have beaten literally anyone except Joe Biden
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Nov 22, 2018 00:33
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Anyway, moving away from the brief bout of D&D, it's happening in CA (media all called this race for the GOP candidate weeks ago):
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Nov 22, 2018 00:33
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John Kerry or Al Gore would have gotten Obama sized wins.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:John Kerry or Al Gore would have gotten Obama sized wins.  oh my godedit: a whole lotta jebs in this thread who think you can just Jeb! your way to victory
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Billzasilver posted:lmao trump would have beaten literally anyone except Joe Biden  Nov 8, 2016
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VROOM VROOM posted:____________/ Hahaha the loving reg date, Jesus.
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Imagine having a gigantic racist toddler in the most powerful position in the world single handedly take down the economy. I mean poo poo last time it took the entire financial sector being idiots to do it last time and this motherfucker did it by himself
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Nov 22, 2018 01:33
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logikv9 posted:this thread is simply a preview of the Horrors to come when the primaries start up
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Nov 22, 2018 03:09
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You, an idiot: the midterms are over! Me, a politics genius: https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1065428045274759169
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brugroffil posted:You, an idiot: the midterms are over! Coin toss PTSD kicking in
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brugroffil posted:You, an idiot: the midterms are over! wait...this piss brained state does coin tosses instead of run-off elections? 
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Billzasilver posted:wait...this piss brained state does coin tosses instead of run-off elections? It's an entire state full of intensely weird white people and the natives who wish they could kill them. Of course it's decided by a coin toss.
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Serf posted:imagine getting owned for 2 years straight and then teleporting back in like you're king poo poo of turd mountain lmaoooo he's been around, just stuck to posting dumb anticommunist tripe before
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R. Guyovich posted:he's been around, just stuck to posting dumb anticommunist tripe before yep, and each time he's dared to post his bullshit he gets owned
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:And yet in MN this cycle, the shitstain GOP governor candidate who everyone hates lost bigly to the best retail politician in the state. GOP got owned in statewide races because Hennepin county is full of people who hate Trump like poison and turnout was heavy. Minneapolis saved Keith Ellison's rear end and broke the "Red Minnesota" plan for the foreseeable future.
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See Republicans are loving monsters who want to do evil things and centrist Clinton decorum dems all have this fantasy where all they have to do in an election is go "Sir, have you no DECENCY?" and their opponent will go "aaaaah I'm defeated!" and melt into some kind of ooze but in real life that poo poo doesn't work and the Republican just goes puppet you're the puppet or whatever.
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Zeroisanumber posted:GOP got owned in statewide races because Hennepin county is full of people who hate Trump like poison and turnout was heavy. Minneapolis saved Keith Ellison's rear end and broke the "Red Minnesota" plan for the foreseeable future. Ah, yes, the noted Minneapolis neighborhoods of Inver Grove Heights and Dellwood.
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