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I downloaded instagram to try to watch AOC's videos and I can't figure out how to use it. So I guess I'm old now.
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mcmagic posted:I downloaded instagram to try to watch AOC's videos and I can't figure out how to use it. So I guess I'm old now. Even when you were young you were old.
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Nov 22, 2018 05:34
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Covok posted:"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." That quote just feels so incomplete without this song following it.
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Nov 22, 2018 05:35
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Prester Jane posted:No, minorities like you and I have to indulge racism, sexism, and xenophobia for the greater good. He gets to sit on his comfortable white rear end and preach to us about how important it is that we take this one for the team. This isn't as cut and dry when you can't feed yourself or breathe on your own. e: I'm speaking broadly not about a specific politician, I'll delete if it counts as Manchin derail. Spoke Lee fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Nov 22, 2018 05:41
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Nocturtle posted:SNL selling out to terrible conservatives for ratings was a plot point in Bob Roberts, which was released in 1992. Not much has changed. Imagine thinking a handful of conservative-neutral gags across the last few years is the same as selling out.
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Nov 22, 2018 05:48
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Haven’t seen this posted yet https://twitter.com/LADAOffice/status/1065343482024214528?s=20 The only headline I saw regarding this is a Huffpo article stating that LA is declining felony charges, so just so you know it still sounds like they are going to charge him with something.
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Nov 22, 2018 06:10
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Stexils posted:the results weren't conclusive one way or the other, basically. there's enough races and results that you could draw whatever conclusion you wanted and have evidence for it. but overall the people who voted for dems remained the people who usually vote for dems, the suburbanites. they just turned out at a higher rate than normal, hence the swing. i'll see if i can find the article i read about it. Thanks. That was the impression I got as well. What I wanted to find though, was confirmation that tacking left was the way to go, and happily I found an article on the same site you posted that argues pretty convincingly for that: https://jacobinmag.com/2018/11/midterms-2018-donnelly-indiana-democrats-sanders
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Nov 22, 2018 06:16
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Josef bugman posted:Wrong action is worse than inaction. No, you are exactly as culpable, you are just exactly as culpable for more deaths. It doesn't matter if your purity crusade made you feel better, you still caused much much more misery and death by handing power over to people who gleefully do much worse things, you just did it while stroking your own ego. And great job just devolvng to the "SMASH THING!" response. Yes, I'm sure THIS time you try that, unlike every other goddamn time in human history, it won't just magnify the problems dozens of times over. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Nov 22, 2018 06:20
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Grapplejack posted:There's no ground support for Dems in a lot of these states and they feel cast aside by the Dem leadership. Like, Ohio, for example. The national party has left them swaying because the neoliberal platform they love so much has severely damaged the state and they have zero interest or plans to deal with it. Brown is popular in Ohio because he gives a poo poo and is trying to make things better there. Byrd loving annihilated everyone who tried to challenge him in WV, primarily because he rode so hard in diverting funds and jobs to the state. It's a lack of interest from the party writ large that is the problem and something that needs to be changed if you want to see more left-y people in Congress from the rust belt states. 
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Nov 22, 2018 06:25
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Fulchrum posted:No, you are exactly as culpable, you are just exactly as culpable for more deaths. It doesn't matter if your purity crusade made you feel better, you still caused much much more misery and death by handing power over to people who gleefully do much worse things, you just did it while stroking your own ego. Hey quick question, if you push a failure of a candidate who is hated by most of the nation and can't beat the most hated candidate in living memory does that also make you culpable for the horror of the winner? Asking for a friend.
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Nov 22, 2018 06:27
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Z. Autobahn posted:Can someone please put me in a time capsule and only let me out once AOC is president, tia Umm, thats called a coffin. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Nov 22, 2018 06:27
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Deeply, deeply loving all the brain geniuses in the comments, giving the hottest of takes about science.
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Nov 22, 2018 06:34
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Not a Step posted:Hey quick question, if you push a failure of a candidate who is hated by most of the nation and can't beat the most hated candidate in living memory does that also make you culpable for the horror of the winner? Asking for a friend. Is "Push" your word for "couldn't actually get more votes than fair and square in the primary, but refused to ever admit it or accept the results"? Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Nov 22, 2018 06:35
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gently caress all American farmers.
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Nov 22, 2018 06:45
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Fulchrum posted:Is "Push" your word for "couldn't actually get more votes than fair and square, but refused to ever admit it or accept the results"? It's quite refreshing to hear you speak about abuela that way Fulchrum.
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Nov 22, 2018 06:48
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Prester Jane posted:It's quite refreshing to hear you speak about abuela that way Fulchrum. Waiting for you to figure out that she couldn't get less votes than herself in the primary, so there's another candidate there who you might be thinking of.
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Nov 22, 2018 06:53
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i am harry posted:gently caress all American farmers. is this a hot take or a satirical expression of Donald Trump's functional position
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e: \/\/\/message received!\/\/\/
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Nov 22, 2018 07:00
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this thanksgiving i'm thankful for buttons so i can tell people to stop posting and enjoy their involuntary thanksgiving vacation
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GreyjoyBastard posted:is this a hot take or a satirical expression of Donald Trump's functional position It's both. Mexican farmers, those are some good people. They come all the way to Colorado to grow bell peppers for us to eat while all these loving natives grow soybeans and corn that help nobody except maybe cows and those sure as gently caress aren't doing anyone any good either.
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Nov 22, 2018 07:06
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What about Joel Salatin? He seems pretty cool
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i am harry posted:It's both. Mexican farmers, those are some good people. They come all the way to Colorado to grow bell peppers for us to eat while all these loving natives grow soybeans and corn that help nobody except maybe cows and those sure as gently caress aren't doing anyone any good either. reminder some states passed their own anti immigrant laws during Obama's term , had crops rot for a few seasons and they still voted for Donnie. Like the Ohio thing is an intersting problem, but if you have a people that are so racist that they keep setting fires beccause nonwhites hurt their feefees there's not much room for bridge building. Like seriously gently caress them.
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Nov 22, 2018 07:26
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Hobo Erotica posted:What about Joel Salatin? He seems pretty cool He’s (sadly) a right wing “libertarian” evangelical nut, but he’s not “all American farmers” either, so no, still don’t gently caress all of them.
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Nov 22, 2018 07:31
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Spoke Lee posted:This isn't as cut and dry when you can't feed yourself or breathe on your own. Prester Jane is so devoted to her cause she's not only willing to sacrifice her own life -- but yours as well! Wow such dedication.
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Nov 22, 2018 07:31
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This Thanksgiving I am grateful for the fact we can all still have time to hate the hell out of each other between doing something, anything to keep this country from falling ever harder into fascism.
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Nov 22, 2018 07:38
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jonboy8871 posted:He’s (sadly) a right wing “libertarian” evangelical nut, but he’s not “all American farmers” either, so no, still don’t gently caress all of them. I think that when you've got the government telling you you can't do this or that, and being ridiculous with their regulations, you're allowed to be a bit of a libertarian. Feels like the internet has a bit of a knee jerk reaction against that word sometimes. I haven't really heard anything 'right wing' from him though so maybe I'm missing something.
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Nov 22, 2018 07:41
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PhazonLink posted:reminder some states passed their own anti immigrant laws during Obama's term , had crops rot for a few seasons and they still voted for Donnie. Their crops may have rotted but the actual farmers didn't lose any money, thanks to farm subsidies.
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Hobo Erotica posted:I think that when you've got the government telling you you can't do this or that, and being ridiculous with their regulations, you're allowed to be a bit of a libertarian. Feels like the internet has a bit of a knee jerk reaction against that word sometimes. I haven't really heard anything 'right wing' from him though so maybe I'm missing something. Oh, no doubt. But he’s a right wing religious nut. He censors himself pretty well in public because he knows it’s not good for business. Edit: but not always. [//quote]Salatin has also described the conservative talk show host Glenn Beck, an outspoken critic of gay marriage and illegal immigration, as “agendaless” and “truth-seeking."[//quote] https://www.upc-online.org/thinking/green_eggs.html It’s a fairly slanted outlet, but the relevant part is sourced well enough. Also, he went to Bob Jones University. jonboy8871 fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Nov 22, 2018 08:04
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Why is Prester Jane suddenly pushing for a Compaction Cycle for the Left?
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https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1065373735178461184?s=21 Apparently global warming has caused the base of the tower to expand and lessen its lean.
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Squalid posted:Prester Jane is so devoted to her cause she's not only willing to sacrifice her own life -- but yours as well! Wow such dedication. If you spent half the effort you invest in justifying evil on a hobby you'd have a ship in a bottle, and nobody would want to strangle you. I guess what I'm saying is try something productive with your time. Instead of being a bigot, why not bake a cake? Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Nov 22, 2018 08:34
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jonboy8871 posted:He censors himself pretty well in public Well, that's good enough for me... I get where you're coming from with the Glenn Beck reference, but I'm still not going to write him off. Beck is charismatic enough that I can forgive someone from rural America for falling for his schtick, especially if they're already on a libertarian type trip. There is an extent to which people are the products of their environments, and he's still a good farmer. But hey whatever. \/\/ We're talking about the same thing, you're milkshake-ducking him, and I'm just trying to defend him by justifying what are obviously some pretty bad opinions, cos I don't want to see a guy who does good farming get milkshake-ducked. We've just gone about as far as we can go I reckon! Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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Hobo Erotica posted:Well, that's good enough for me... I think, ultimately, we’re talking about different things, so, hey, whatever indeed.
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Ms Adequate posted:Deeply, deeply loving all the brain geniuses in the comments, giving the hottest of takes about science. Especially random punters dismissing an article in Nature. That plan by the US government is absolutely abhorrent. A few years back when I arrived for work at the hospital there was a small demonstration outside. Not a very usual thing for where I worked, a large teaching hospital. It turned out they were protesting against people born with hypospadia / indeterminate genitalia being operated on after birth and assigned a sex more or less on the whim of the surgeon. This is apparently the norm for what happens to these babies. Unsurprisingly in a big proportion of cases the person grows up feeling they've been assigned the wrong one. If lawmakers are aware this happens its incredibly morally corrupt to propose that law. Disgusting.
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friendbot2000 posted:Why isn't America's BFF in the Middle East Jordan? From what I have read they are fairly progressive and not antagonistic to the west or Israel. They mostly just mind their own business it seems. It's because they aren't rich enough to purchase tens of billions of dollars of wartoys from the US, the UK and France along with all the kickbacks to well-placed government officials that go with deals of that magnitude.
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Fulchrum posted:Is "Push" your word for "couldn't actually get more votes than fair and square in the primary, but refused to ever admit it or accept the results"? Be honest though, if Dems had a spine in the last twenty years - instead of only caring now how hosed elections are that their white savior lost, and the non-poor whites are under threat of voter suppression - then the candidate with the most votes would have won the election.
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Strange Poon posted:Be honest though, if Dems had a spine in the last twenty years - instead of only caring now how hosed elections are that their white savior lost, and the non-poor whites are under threat of voter suppression - then the candidate with the most votes would have won the election. When in the last 20 years did Dems have the level of power needed to enact a full on constitutional rewrite that would let them abolish the electoral college? Come on, point it out for the class.
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Nov 22, 2018 09:59
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What would it take to get the USA's relationship with Saudi Arabia to the same place the relationship is with Israel? I'm not directly comparing the two countries - but it seems the gap between "our Middle Eastern ally did a bad thing, but it's okay because they're our ally" and "our Middle Eastern ally can do no wrong, and criticism of that ally is Literally Treason" is a small one and the Saudis would be eager to bridge it.
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