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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Yes it is; Rose’s story is the story of the First Order in microcosm: they gained popular support on various ‘blue collar’ planets, accrued tons of wealth, and then started the military operations. Like...Trump...
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It is also interesting that the First Order, a fascist-like all human organization fond of austere aesthetics is led by a deformed alien who likes to wear a fancy golden robe.
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Nov 20, 2018 23:24
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Brother Entropy posted:snoke is an alien? Yes; he's 20% bigger than a normal person and has claw fingers. Just like the baddie in Solo has a claw thumb and gets slightly redder when hes mad.
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:What I've wondered since TLJ came out is why everyone's just taking Kylo's word for it
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McCloud posted:
The problem with telling people that their favorite movies are a waste of time is that they will agree with you and stop watching. Masterstroke.
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I think everyone would have been fine with Rey not being a skywalker and Snoke being no one if the rest of the movie wasn't poo poo.
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LividLiquid posted:Because Rey's parents not being Skywalkers or Kenobis makes for a way bigger and better universe than everybody important being loving related to each other. Rey grew up piloting the Millenium Falcon and has personality befriended Luke, Leia, Han Solo, Chewbacca and R2D2. She online-dated Han Solo’s son.
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Brother Entropy posted:snoke is an alien? everyone in the film is an alien
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mandatory lesbian posted:everyone in the film is an alien you know what i meant!!! 
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FN and Hux are legitimately unrelated to anyone, but nobody cares.
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mandatory lesbian posted:everyone in the film is an alien Thank you. Why don’t people understand this!!
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:FN and Hux are legitimately unrelated to anyone, but nobody cares. Hux is related to his dad
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Electronico6 posted:Benicio Del Toro character was one of the few things in these Disney movies that actually felt something that George Lucas would come up with. For the better and for the worst. He's weird, baffling, but odd in a fantastical sense and immediately memorable. I completely agree. I also liked that he doesn't have any sort of convoluted backstory, has extremely obvious motivations and there's no need to ever have him again in future films. He's a pretty subversive character in a world of fan theories, spinoffs and 'canon', because his entire character is just a rogue who only cares about himself, but the fact that they cast a well known actor for the role makes him seem so much more "mysterious". He sells out the heroes, not because of some backstory outlined in a comic or some secret connection to the main characters, but because he's just a selfish dick, and that's fantastic.
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I guess he died on the big ship anyway.
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JfishPirate posted:I completely agree. I also liked that he doesn't have any sort of convoluted backstory, has extremely obvious motivations and there's no need to ever have him again in future films. He's a pretty subversive character in a world of fan theories, spinoffs and 'canon', because his entire character is just a rogue who only cares about himself, but the fact that they cast a well known actor for the role makes him seem so much more "mysterious". He sells out the heroes, not because of some backstory outlined in a comic or some secret connection to the main characters, but because he's just a selfish dick, and that's fantastic. The weird part about him is that even though his whole betrayal and statement of beliefs is presented as wrong, we in the audience know he is right. They will never stop making these movies, so the in-universe power dynamic will never change, so one should never risk themselves over ideals because the universe is caught in some Sisyphean nightmare.
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Brother Entropy posted:snoke is an alien? I guess he could just be a really deformed human but just for the fact that he's cgi I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be a human.
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LividLiquid posted:Because Rey's parents not being Skywalkers or Kenobis makes for a way bigger and better universe than everybody important being loving related to each other. By far the most interesting and I'd wager most popular character in the ST is the son of two OT characters so all this talk about creating a bigger universe by having new OG characters rings very hollow. The movies do gently caress all with characters like Fin, at least Fin being Lando's secret lovechild would be something.
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Brother Entropy posted:you know what i meant!!! :p JfishPirate posted:I completely agree. I also liked that he doesn't have any sort of convoluted backstory, has extremely obvious motivations and there's no need to ever have him again in future films. He's a pretty subversive character in a world of fan theories, spinoffs and 'canon', because his entire character is just a rogue who only cares about himself, but the fact that they cast a well known actor for the role makes him seem so much more "mysterious". He sells out the heroes, not because of some backstory outlined in a comic or some secret connection to the main characters, but because he's just a selfish dick, and that's fantastic. He's han solo if solo wasn't attracted to any of the mc's
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mandatory lesbian posted:He's han solo if solo wasn't attracted to any of the mc's Han Solo (at first) doesn't have any convictions to the Empire or the Rebels because he doesn't care enough to have given it any thought. DJ doesn't have any convictions to the First Order or the Resistance because he has given it thought, and actively decided to reject them both.
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I like how he really doesn't have a name in a franchise where every background puppet has a name species and history
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Grendels Dad posted:By far the most interesting and I'd wager most popular character in the ST is the son of two OT characters so all this talk about creating a bigger universe by having new OG characters rings very hollow. The movies do gently caress all with characters like Fin, at least Fin being Lando's secret lovechild would be something. yep i'm basically only sticking it out at this point for more kylo
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Uncle Wemus posted:Shouldnt there be episode 9 leaks or trailers by now? I was asking a friend this the other day. We don't even have a title yet, which seems odd.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Shouldnt there be episode 9 leaks or trailers by now? Either December if they want to throw something out, or for sure early next year. That's when they normally drop the trailers.
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Yeah, there's several big Disney releases on the horizon (Mary Poppins, Captain Marvel, Infinity War 2). Typically big trailers come out 1-2 weeks online before they are then attached to those movies in theaters. Additionally, Celebration is in April next year. Might hit there first, coinciding with a release online, then be attached a few weeks later to Infinity War part 2.
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IX is reportedly filming into February, so I wouldn't expect much until Celebration next year. Title might drop a bit earlier than that.
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It is way too early for a trailer. But I'm surprised nothing has leaked yet. We had that "Luke's hand floating through space" leak pretty early on into TFA development. I don't remember when they usually announce the titles, because it always seems to catch me by surprise.
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I wonder if Rian's gonna brave that poo poo and head up there. Someone's gonna beat that poor man with a force fx lightsaber.
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Most of the leak scene is currently focused on The Mandalorian since their shooting set is almost literally in the MSW guy's backyard. What's known about IX right now is mainly that they've been shooting in Jordan for the past month or so. There was what seemed to be a legitimate leak on the subreddit (and it now conspicuously appears to be gone) with some second-hand details on some of the scenes they were shooting there. This ain't the spoiler thread, so I won't get into them in detail, but it was mainly a handful of "[known character] dodging explosion/swinging a weapon" tidbits. Nothing substantial. Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Nov 21, 2018 |
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Force Awakens title hit in November and Last Jedi title hit in January. 9 seems to be filming later than those did, so it might still be February or March before it comes out.
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There's plenty of bits and pieces leaking out about Episode IX but they're "debunked" (never by Abrams on his Twitter or by Lucasfilm or anyone else) almost immediately by someone on Screenrant or YouTube or someplace insisting upon why it's impossible. Of course I don't expect there will be many leaks; at least, there will be leaks, but they won't get a lot of attention paid to them for various reasons, one of which being that I imagine people will be trying to second-guess everything.
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Prequels get a lot of love these days but Obi's mullet is still critically underrated
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LividLiquid posted:Because Rey's parents not being Skywalkers or Kenobis makes for a way bigger and better universe than everybody important being loving related to each other. I'm sorry, but it's only realistic. Like everyone important to me is related to me. SuperMechagodzilla posted:FN and Hux are legitimately unrelated to anyone, but nobody cares. Have you asked the Story group about this? Maybe one of them is a failed clone of the other. Grendels Dad posted:By far the most interesting and I'd wager most popular character in the ST is the son of two OT characters so all this talk about creating a bigger universe by having new OG characters rings very hollow. The movies do gently caress all with characters like Fin, at least Fin being Lando's secret lovechild would be something. Actually, I'm kind of wondering if the new Starwars movies are even popular with their target demographic. I don't hear my son about it(nor his friends), I don't see/hear the kids at school talking about it when I drop him off or pick him up. And I never see kids leaving the toystores with any Starwars toys except occasionally Lego. I do see plenty of SW action figures/Hot Wheels filling the sales bins with big discounts. (obviously all very statistically relevant) Are only the adults invested in this?
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Darth TNT posted:Actually, I'm kind of wondering if the new Starwars movies are even popular with their target demographic. I don't hear my son about it(nor his friends), I don't see/hear the kids at school talking about it when I drop him off or pick him up. And I never see kids leaving the toystores with any Starwars toys except occasionally Lego. I do see plenty of SW action figures/Hot Wheels filling the sales bins with big discounts. (obviously all very statistically relevant) Kids like the cartoons but not the movies.
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Kids like the movies if going by my anecdotial evidence at Disney World. Which if Wheat Loaf's BS counts as fact for him, mine counts as fact for me. Therefore, ergo, visa-vi, kids like the movies and Rey. And porgs.
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Darth TNT posted:That's more of a failing of the story telling. No one cares about Rey. (I cared before TLJ, TLJ didn't do her any favors) Well, yeah. I'm saying that giving these characters relationships to the old characters would make it easier for writers to come up with stuff for them. It might be boring and makes the fictional universe feel small, but it's drat well better than the big pile of nothing these characters have right now. Kylo is literally trying to be a character from the OT and it's fun because it connects the old with the new movies and makes Kylo an interesting if somewhat pathetic character. Nobody knows what the gently caress Poe is about.
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