Daztek posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/9zcpeb/there_may_be_some_bugs_in_this_build/

MedicineHut posted:

Thanks for the effort friend. But I have absolutely zero idea what that meant. All I eed to know is if this is something someone can realistically give shitizens poo poo about or not. Asking for a friend.

Sarsapariller posted:

Who was it who said that when the in-game economy was enabled the bugs would be so utterly game-breaking they would beggar belief? Oh, me, it was me.

fatal oopsie-daisy posted:

This is kind of a sad story

I'm not really a SC-hater at all, I just think it looks incredibly buggy and the plans they made for it are way too big for their ability and they got way ahead of themselves on story instead of focusing on the core game.

I have a real life good friend who is bought into the SC narrative and is one of those people who thinks it's amazing and will be amazing. He says in our facebook group chats how great the game is, how it's amazing and beautiful and stuff like that. Luckily he's just super pro-SC and not anti-goon or someone constantly defending it on reddit. One of our other friends plays with him sometimes and I just kind of go "cool" from the sidelines.

He posts photos of the landscapes on the planets daily.


My plan is basically to just let SC turn into the dead quasi-vaporware that we all know it will be and let the hype run its course. He's a really good friend and a great guy but I feel like he's been sucked in a little too deep. Does anyone have friends like this?

ewe2 posted:

Cargo-cult Theory of Star Citizen

Disclaimer: I am not a sociologist/anthropologist. I am an autodidact with a bad case of effortpost. I welcome any empirical evidence to disprove the foregoing, which is mostly theoretical.

The sociology/anthropology of the SC cult is many-layered. I wondered if there was any connection to cargo cults, and I think there is one. But first a good definition: a Quora question led to what I find is a much better definition than the Wikipedia/popular conception of cargo cults. Indeed, there's a quest for a new term since "cargo cult" is really about how we explain away colonising other cultures. Rather than fall into a similar trap about the SC backers, let's use a compact version of the real definition as a comparison: ritualistic behaviour in search of a better relationship with a disruptive force upon one's culture. It's a bit broad, and a number of applications quite aside from gaming will occur to one, but let's apply it in the time-honoured anthropological manner "gather data, but don't touch the poop". Avoid imposing value-judgements and assemble evidence.

What is the gaming culture and how does SC disrupt it?

SC backers appear to believe in a number of things about games and gaming culture that predispose them to cult-like behaviour around The Game. SC is a solution to the problems they believe plague gaming. So from their perspective:

* gaming is tired and repetitive.
* gaming is corrupted by the undue influence of publishers and media.
* gaming is also corrupted by haters and other forms of social justice warriors.
* gaming does not value community contributions and by extension its consumers.
* gaming is secretive about its production and hides its failures.
* from the previous points, it follows that the gaming business will not make The Games they want.

For these gamers, SC is a disruptive force to this culture, and to their own experience of gaming. They believe:

* The Game is directly funded by gamers.
* It is The Game they want.
* It is completely open development and always has been and always will be.
* It values their contributions with special extras.
* It does new things that other games will not do because they are inferior.
* ipso facto it will transform the nature of gaming.
* Implicitly 'might is right' vs 'social justice' underlies the true hierarchy of gamers.
* SC is a community as well as a game.
* More money spent equals higher social status and worthiness.

I would argue there is substantial empirical evidence for these, many of these points have been made explicitly by SC gamers on reddit and elsewhere.

What do SC backers do in relation to The Game?

* They defend The Game at every opportunity no matter how obscure the attention.
* They buy anything related to it with a price tag.
* They fetishize related objects and create their own objects for the purpose of ritual.
* They make up a lot of weird poo poo about it and suggest their creations to the developers.
* They acclaim Chris, Sandi or anyone else who promotes The Game as heroes.
* They make up a lot of weird poo poo about their heroes.
* They discuss The Game daily, obsessively.

Ok, that will do for a start, but again there is easily enough empirical evidence to back those assertions, just look at the threads in this subforum for that.

What do SC backers say about their cult?

This is where we begin to make observations based on the evidence, seeking to link them in a theoretical unity.

* They implicitly accept a hierarchy based on level of backing The Game and/or in-depth knowledge about it. This is an attitude of servility and respect. One only has to be seen to disagree with this hierarchy to be viewed with suspicion. Hence, those who wish to critically discuss The Game must preface their discussion with evidence that they accept the hierarchy. The hierarchy is implicit in social organisation based around The Game, including guilds, groups, streaming channels, forums, and particularly the Evocati.

* We see these assumptions repeatedly in their proselyting of The Game, particularly in the negative when they attack perceived enemies of their hierarchy, be it goons, haters, Derek Smart, or media enemy of the month.

* The disruptive use of crowdsourcing The Game leads them to believe they aren't merely consumers, but partners in The Games production and eventual retail. It is practically a truism for anyone to say that SC is a unique test of the crowdsourcing model. SC backers make repeated assertions about the different nature of The Game and the power of its community. Detractors will say they're a cult in an attempt to divide them and SC backers must be vigilant against this.

* SC backers believe they are creating a new kind of gaming community that will be free of corruption from SJW's griefers, goons etc. because The Game will prevent such corruption. Detractors say scary things and this calls for new alterations to The Game.

* Necessarily the creators of The Game are completely trustworthy, hard-working, imaginative, generous, and methodical. Detractors say horrible things about them and need to be arrested for many reasons.

* SC backers believe that if they keep believing and sending money, The Game will be good and everything surrounding The Game will be justified and by extension they too will be justified and acquire elevated social status when The Game is released. Detractors play this down because they are secretly jealous and fear The Game will be popular when released.

* The game will be released when it's ready and any perceived problems are minor, insubstantial. Detractors say it will never be released and has big problems because they are in league with publishers and bad websites or are controlled by Derek Smart and Goons.

* Detractors manufacture lies and distortions and are simultaneously stupid and extremely-well connected and powerful. This is because they too recognise the power and distinctiveness of The Game and must fight against it.

* Inventing lore, gameplay elements, artwork and game mechanics is the backers way of contributing to The Game, participating in its community, demonstrating their hierarchical value, and are a source of comfort and ritual while awaiting The Great Day of Release. Detractors simply do not understand this because they prefer to wreck things.

Conclusion:

Star Citizen is a cult-like hierarchical disruption to a status quo; for its backers it is a disruption of that status quo which frees them from its precepts and allows them to create a new hierarchy based upon themselves. "I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

Well that's my theory so far. Feel free to poke holes etc.

edit: taxxe from the Tortie Cat thread:

Baxta posted:

I have a friend whos in for a couple hundred. He plays whenever theres a new release and tells me whats good and whats poo poo. We both agree the ships are pretty though then we stop talking about SC because who cares.

Beexoffel posted:

Beet Wagon posted:

Incredibly cool how CIG is making interns push patches on Thanksgiving lmfao

AlbieQuirky posted:

Are the patches coming from the US sweatshops or from the UK/DE sweatshops?

MedicineHut posted:

Restless posts at the top of Spectrum https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/as-a-long-time-backer-and-supporter-of-star-citize

Potato Salad posted:

I had to step back for a minute to really appreciate how bad "Post moved to CONCERN" is.

To wit, "It looks like this past contains concerns. Gagged." For providing concerns. Literally /r/the_donald levels of thought policing.

Holy poo poo, how are there literally any followers whatsoever

Sarsapariller posted:

Already deleted

As a long time backer and supporter of Star Citizen, I have some criticis- EXTREMELY MOVED TO CONCERN

Morphix posted:

if you notice, a lol of the biggest star citizen posters are also deep into the don posting lifestyle as well

and like the_don, most of the posters are bots or paid shills interacting with each other. like the way I see it, there is maybe 20% real people on both forums talking to robots and advertising accounts.

Dementropy posted:

Hav posted:

An EC2 instance is a computer that you connect to. Normally you don’t connect directly to an instance, but use an ELB or ALB to balance load across multiple EC2 instances. It appears that they’re sharding the game universe in such a way that you connect to a representation of the universe. It’s not generally the way you use EC2, or how you shard a game universe.

One of the reasons that this is bad is you cannot predict the ip space supplied, you don’t know the shared residency of the hardware you’re ‘renting’ for the lifetime of the instance, and they’re probably pushing everything through the west coast at the moment. Amazon’s availability zones are a bit of a nightmare to navigate, mainly because there’s no real concept of a GeoIp or GSLB up front, so mainly people pick a point and roll with it.

Latency is really going to be the issue here. To use a car analogy, they’re trying to build a sporty roadster from tractor parts. When you request a movie from netflix, for example, it starts a number of instances and performance tests them all, then dumps a bunch of the ones that are not performant. It’s one reason why dedicated hosts are normally the way to do things; this is not dedicated hosts, but more of a ‘fabric’ of cross-communicating instances, which means network latency; not the speed of light, but the speed of network switching.

Sarsapariller posted:

More adventure images:

Star Citizen NPC's do not know how doors work. They start to bunch up and clip each other, coincidentally making it really hard to reach the open door button:

orcane posted:

The most advanced games company on the planet.

quote:

Cleveland Blakemore, the developer of “Grimoire : Heralds of the Winged Exemplar” Recently got word of a very old Reddit post on the SidAlpha Subreddit. That Reddit post made some statements and claims that the developer took exception to claiming personal defamation and slander. When he as met with resistance he resorted to making legal threats, threatening to sue Reddit, the original poster, and even threatened to sue me as well. Naturally, I thought it proper to provide my own commentary and opinion of their actions and also to take a brief look at a game that took over 20 years to make, had 3 indiegogo campaigns to fund it, and broke nearly a dozen release dates.

Sources used: https://www.reddit.com/r/SidAlpha/com... https://www.gog.com/forum/general/so_... http://archive.is/X9IZP https://techraptor.net/content/grimoi... https://store.steampowered.com/app/65... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbWRT...

Sarsapariller posted:

More adventure images:

Star Citizen NPC's do not know how doors work. They start to bunch up and clip each other, coincidentally making it really hard to reach the open door button: