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Bad Seafood posted:Bill is Hisoka. I thought I clicked the red dead redemption 2 thread in my bookmarks and this really threw me for a loop
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Spoilers are out and I hope you guys are ready for even more characters!
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So to gash just read part 5 of Jojo and decided he wanted to give it a shot?
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Nov 23, 2018 04:48
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Is there any point in reading through every part of the novels we're getting each week? I just skip those pages entirely. It doesn't feel like I'm missing anything significant.
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Nov 23, 2018 07:19
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Nov 23, 2018 08:20
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I can't imagine being able to follow what's happening while skipping the huge text dumps. tho speaking of text dumps, chapter's up https://readms.net/r/hunter_x_hunter/390/5492/1
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KittenofDoom posted:Is there any point in reading through every part of the novels we're getting each week? I thought shitposting wasn't allowed! New chapter: A mafia chapter, with more action too, which is a nice pace of change. Three new nen abilities in use, some of them are cool. Lol at the blood user needing regular transfusions. Before the fight starts, it seemed they planned to use his ability to do another thing, so maybe he has a second ability with his blood related to finding information.
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Holy poo poo I love these new dudes already. Add em to the pile of the thousands of characters introduced this arc.
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Nov 23, 2018 11:41
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Is Shang right with his theory of the coins not being useful until he is king? If things like that are part of his personality as he mentioned, then it's very possible he is right, Nen beats are supposed to inherint traits or base their powers on their Princes. On the other hand he could be wrong as it's like the guard says, you have to enter the coin in the beast mouth.
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Nov 23, 2018 11:58
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Turin Turambar posted:Is Shang right with his theory of the coins not being useful until he is king? If things like that are part of his personality as he mentioned, then it's very possible he is right, Nen beats are supposed to inherint traits or base their powers on their Princes. I think he's basically right, in that his power seems more like the power of a king, or a CEO or crime boss or something, than someone engaging in a deathmatch. It could still be useful to him, for sure, but it's not like Halkenburg's ability, which is meant to see his revolution through directly. It isn't quite as poor for the situation as Sale-Sale's ability was, but it's still rather passive on his part. He needs to leverage it properly, which means directing his men and resources effectively since they're the ones who actually activate it. Which is pretty appropriate for him, really. Still, it's not ideal for the current circumstances. Tangent, the "light and dark" thing he mentioned reminds me of my analysis of his beast's appearance; the mix of Buddhist symbolism, opulence, and a particular Japanese demon seemed like it was meant to be a major hint as to the kind of person he is, and while Shimano's thoughts on him hinted at it earlier in the arc, this makes it pretty clear that that's what Togashi was going for in its design, if even Zhang Lei himself acknowledges his nature that way.
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Nov 23, 2018 12:14
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Roland Jones posted:
You remember Shimano, the maid? She made a comment about Shang in the same lines, of how he was a Prince capable of doing good deeds, and the next day being an evil bastard. This chapter was basically confirmation. I interpreted it as Shang being a consummated power player, and he is familiar with both the carrot and the stick as tools of his trade. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Nov 23, 2018 12:20
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Lynch Fullbocco is a drat good name
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Nov 23, 2018 13:47
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All three of those abilities are fun as hell. God drat what a comic.
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Nov 23, 2018 14:27
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Now Gio Gio appears. As part of a mafia to boot.
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Nov 23, 2018 14:46
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Aaaaand hiatus begins again. I'm legit going to die before this ever gets finished.
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Nov 23, 2018 16:02
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Yo these guys loving rule
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Blood dude's hatsu at the moment seems to just be bungee-gum but worse. Wonder what other applications we'll see from it. I feel like Zhang Lei's nen beast sets him up very well to be a potential winner of the contest. If he's correct then it's his ability is about being smart about he treats his subordinates, and looking ahead to see the more complete picture. User Turin Turambar a few posts up brought up the maid's assessment of him as someone who is equally willing to do good or bad depending on the circumstances, which at least to me seems like a skill that would be necessary for a proper king to have a good handle on. This, plus the comparison with his father that the Mafia dude made all seems like its pointing in the direction of Zhang Lei to, if not be the winner, at least be a very formidable opponent to the others. I think it's really interesting to see the different strategies that are emerging from the different Princes. Benjamin is hanging back, making good use of his subordinates, observing the others and making quick decisive strikes when he has the opportunity. Camilla appears to be unhinged, ruthless, and absolutely willing to make full use of her resources, even if she isn't smart about how. Zhang Lei I already discussed. Revolution-man whose name I forget is taking drastic and direct action with his newly discovered arrows. I don't recall anybody else that we've seen make much action in the interest of winning. Putting the Princes in a situation like this really does push them into action and reveal what kind of leader they'd be. So many of them are entirely disengaged from the situation, the drug Prince wasn't even participating in the strategy discussion, he was just chilling with his bong on the sofa the whole time. Sale-Sale just wanted to live lavishly and be coddled and was punished for it, the Twins attempted to run and, again, were punished. I expect Tyson, drug-dude, and Tubeppa will be too (though I predict Tubeppa has more going for them once they get really pulled into it.)
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Tyson and Tubeppa definitely have things going on like Zhang, but it'll take a bit for them to come to fruition. Ostensibly Sale-Sale could have too, but he was targeted first and spent too long cooped up in his room. Tyson's could definitely be potent if given a proper channel to start propagating his teachings. Besides sucking up aura and giving back happiness, it's not yet clear what the full ramifications are for Nen users are or what the punishment is for breaking it (I think). Tubeppa's beast seems a lot more subtle and definitely indicates Tubeppa's lack of personal interest in rule or leadership. As for its ability to create chemicals and such, it's definitely something that has a lot of potential, but requires some extra assistance to put it into action as compared to the others. Luzurus (drug guy) also seems to have a beast that's not specifically targeted towards rule or command/control so it may be unclear as to where that might go. And then there's Wobble which is basically a wild card in all of this.
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Turin Turambar posted:You remember Shimano, the maid? She made a comment about Shang in the same lines, of how he was a Prince capable of doing good deeds, and the next day being an evil bastard. This chapter was basically confirmation. I interpreted it as Shang being a consummated power player, and he is familiar with both the carrot and the stick as tools of his trade. I do, yes; I mentioned her by name in the section of my post you quoted. But yeah, barring him getting Worf'd, Zhang Lei should at least put up a good showing and get far enough that he either ends up turning on Team Woble, or him getting taken out is part of things taking a really bad turn for Team Woble.
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A summary of the Succession War Arc until now: (Note, I like to call this Arc the Succession War arc, as separate entity of the DC arc. The real Dark Continent Arc is still far away. It really starts around chapter 355, so there are 3.5 volumes of the SW right now) 341-349: The Prologue or, Setup for DC Dark continent, calamities, DC guide, Beyond, Black Whale, Princes presentation. Ging vs Pariston, Beyond's group, Leorio & Kurapica setup, Tse & Benjamin intro, Don Freecs mention. Gon's lack of nen, Zodiac's roles, Saiyuu's betrayal, Pot's ritual is done. 350-360: Hisoka fight & Spiders, SW starts. Kurapica's friends and Oito intro, Kurapica starts working for her. Hisoka vs Chrollo fight, Hisoka's revival, Spiders death. Black Whale departure, Woble's guards start to being killed, Kacho & Fuu intro. Queen's spies explanation, nen beasts appear. 361-370: Warming Up Kurapica's Steal Chain, Emperor Time aging. Woble's guards are dead or in prison. Halk, Cammy, Sale Sale,Theta, Musse, Balsamico intro, more nen beasts, Prince learn of their existence. Benjamin start sending assassins, Vincent dies. Tsubeppa and Zhang intro & alliance with Kurapica. Momoze dies. Tse's nen training & Kurapica's classes starts. Silent Majority strikes. 371-380: Nen everywhere Spiders on board, Mafia three families explained, lieutenants intro, Morena's ability and plan. Hanzo's avenging Momoze. Halk nen beast ability is noticed by some parties. Maryam nen beast ability manifest and is experimented with. Musse's death, Benjamin & Camilla abilities, Camilla is captured. Rihan's ability and his plans for using it against nen beats. Several other nen beats abilities start working in the background. Halk's plan against Nasubi starts. Kurapica's nen classes problems. Fuu's nen beast ability, Fuu tries to learn how it works. Kacho & Fuu plans to escape starts. Theta's 'zetsu' plan starts forming. Illumi appears as a spider, search for Hisoka starts. Luisny ability, and he starts messing with the Spiders. Phinks group temporal alliance with the Mafia starts. Mizaiston's lockdown in inferior decks, Fuu appears on them. 381-390: War ensues 381: Fuu returns to the 1st deck. Hunter's support for Fuu's escape. Keeny's plan starts. Glasses guy mysterious 'heartbeat' heard by Melody. Rihan's eliminate Sale Sale's beast. Ushouhi's assassin ability explained. 382: Halkenburg attempt on his father, he finds a new resolution. Shikaku's body is captured. Sale Sale's death. 383: The Banquet. Fuu & Kacho escape, Keeny's death as escape goat, it ends with Kacho's death and reveal of her ability. 384: Mafia war system explanation, Spider's involvement in war against Morena's faction starts. Tse specialist beast appears. 385: Theta's assassination attempt, it fails. Tse's nen beast ability revealed. 386: Melody's arrest, Halk faction start investigating how their ability works. 'Shikaku's apparent suicide. Kurapica explains next phase of nen training. 387: Tse's point of view of Theta's attempt, ability explained. 388: Kurapica's nen test type starts, Benjamin's guards confirm is really working. Rihans & Balsamico meditations, Tsubeppa plans to avoid assassination. 389: Benjamin's side deduces Halk's powers, counter it by arresting Halk. Tyson's nen beast affects Juliano. Kanjidol starts investigating plot in Luzurus room. Curser's Camilla faction appear, explanation of abilities, setup for plot against Woble. 390: Zhang starts being more proactive on the War, reveal he isn't Nasubi's son?, Xi-Yu family starts war againt Hei-ly family for real, three of their top men abilities shown. As a bonus, an obsessive recount of characters in panels and chapters https://www.reddit.com/r/HunterXHunter/comments/9zo0qe/black_whale_arc_panel_count_chapters_358390_other/ Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Dec 16, 2018 |
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Davinci posted:Blood dude's hatsu at the moment seems to just be bungee-gum but worse. It didn't seem to be particularly powerful, it seemed more a bother as it can be used to immobilize several limbs and strangulate you in an unexpected way, but also it seemed as something you can overpower if you are strong enough. He beat easily a 'civilian' with it, against a someone with nen he will have a harder time. Shadow beast level, imo. The girl ability is nicer, but it's more an interrogation tool. As emission user, I guess she also can throw nen balls or something like that in a pinch, same as Enhancers can always throw a good punch even if they have a more complicated hatsu. Biohazard seems the best, but it also depends of how much the user (in other words, Togashi) is creative with it in the middle of combat, as in Jojo. It will be interesting to see how big he can create an effect. As big as a person? As big as a horse? Elephant size?
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Turin Turambar posted:
The blood control also let him shrug off getting his throat slashed, which is a pretty useful benefit. Bungee gum could patch up the wound, but not before some blood loss.
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Turin Turambar posted:A summary of the Succession War Arc until now: cheers for this because i decided to reread the hisoka chrollo fight as a result
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Was that picture of Kurapika and the 4th prince fake?
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He keeps adding new characters that I want to survive through the end, stop doing that Togashi! I guess they'll get to survive for at least 6 months. 
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Why did Zhang say that three of his siblings died. Kacho's death should still be unconfirmed given that an exact duplicate is running around.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Why did Zhang say that three of his siblings died. Kacho's death should still be unconfirmed given that an exact duplicate is running around. Oh good, I was wondering if I was somehow forgetting something that should be pretty major, the translators made a mistake, or Togashi made a mistake. Glad it's not just me.
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Roland Jones posted:Oh good, I was wondering if I was somehow forgetting something that should be pretty major, the translators made a mistake, or Togashi made a mistake. Glad it's not just me. It could be an intentional plot point.
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Every chapter raises a lot of questions: this time it's about Zhang's relationship with Onior and the nature of his coins. For Zhang not being Nasubi's son, that doesn't restrict him from participation assuming Nasubi's assistant was being very specific with his wording. In chapter 349 he states that: "This scramble for the throne will be limited to the children of legal wives of King Nasubi Hui Guo Rou". So whether or not Nasubi knows the truth, Zhang is just as fit to compete as any other sibling. Which is interesting because my theory on the conditions of the Pot Ceremony had it set that you would be recognized as a accepted for competition if you were a direct blood descendant of the previous winner. Zhang being Onior's son still has him being related to Nasubi by blood, but it's not the same. Also, the reason for the double scars on the face may be linked not just to showing status, but a restriction to keep other blood descendants from competing. Like that mark acts as a marker forbidding them from receiving a guardian spirit. Although I do hold a thought that Zhang is under some manipulation ability that is causing him to think that Onior is his father (Onior lied about not knowing about nen), but I can dig this new development. The relationship between Nasubi and Onior is going to need some further information though. We do know that Zhang went to talk to Nasubi about something, and it related to the answer "the sole survivor is the official heir to the throne" meaning Zhang might have gone there asking about whether his birth invalidated him from the succession war. In this case, if he can survive it doesn't matter who his father is. The value of the coins and their purpose are the other thing. It's nice to know that Zhang's personality is such that he thinks about the long game so the full effectiveness of his beast probably won't be realized until he's made the throne. But I also think his coins are still going to get play this arc so the value is still important, but we'll probably never see the full extent of what they can do. Since he makes a coin each day and it's the 10th day, the first assumption is that the value of the coins are cumulative and dependent on how many are in circulation, it could also just be a counter for how many days Zhang has had the ability, meaning it will always keep increasing even if coins are utilized. The frustrating part is that we know there are multiple activation conditions, to in addition to the obvious one of putting the coin into the Spirit, it could be something as simple as flipping the coin while whistling Dixie and you activate another ability. And because there are multiple activation conditions this could also mean that what abilities you get access too depends on what you do to "spend" the coin. Regardless of what causes the number on the coin to increase. I would like to guess that abilities have a variable intensity to them. For example; if the coin can be used to heal it might cost 1 value to heal a cut, 10 value to restore a severed limb, and 40 to completely heal someone like the Greed Island card could do. Maybe 100 could be spent to revive the dead. But the means of specifying the magnitude of the effect is most likely tied to the way the coin is spent. With the harder one (using the Guardian Spirit directly) getting the highest payout of the ability. It would also fit since Zhang is all about influence, so while people can use his coins to their benefit, in order to get the best returns they need to be close to him both in proximity, and trust-wise. Silver2195 posted:It could be an intentional plot point.
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Brought To You By posted:Every chapter raises a lot of questions: this time it's about Zhang's relationship with Onior and the nature of his coins. A fan theory is not only his father is Onior, but that all the Princes with Mafia's ties (Tse and Luzurus) are the same, children of the mafia dons. This is based in the suspicious similarity of Luzurus and the other don:   This was a silly theory weeks ago, but with the new development in the past chapter, it suddenly seems possible.
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blood bag nen guy could probably shoot out his blood like bullets out of fingertips or make armor out of it. the more he gets hurt the better the ability gets. but he also loses blood. depends on how good his fundamentals are. same with emission lady.
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Maybe I'm missing something but I read Zhang's "I'm counting on you, father" internal monologue as him alluding to relying on his father's strategy of being patient and careful (as opposed to, say, Benjamin, Camilla, and Halkenburg going on the attack). If he's the don's son, he's the don's son, but something about this feels like overthinking it. That probably sounds dismissive - especially when all the rampant speculation is one of the best parts of the thread - but that's how I feel. Re: Zakuro's power being kinda weak, I disagree; it's probably a pretty good counter to getting ambushed by anybody eager to draw blood (case in point). It's niche, for sure, but they knew they were hunting kill-happy scoundrels. Lynch's ability is pretty unambiguously cool, however. I wonder if one of her limitations is having to hit her opponents at full power, curtailing how much information she can glean relative to how sturdy her foe is.
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I read somewhere that the original Japanese text had an exclamation when he said Father, as remarking it was a reveal. Re: Zakuro's power: well, we know about he hatsu 'quality', not how powerful he is. It's like Biskie explained in GI, you can do emission exercises from level 1 to level 10, from a mini ball that travels a few centimeters, to a much more impressive result. With the blood is the same, technically we don't know how fast, strong or hard he can manipulate or transform his blood. I wrote some posts ago he didn't seem particularly powerful to me, but that's more on how Togashi showed to present the ability in the combat, the drawing itself didn't convey a great power or speed.
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Zakuro can probably pull off a Deadman Wonderland powerset if need be.
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Turin Turambar posted:I read somewhere that the original Japanese text had an exclamation when he said Father, as remarking it was a reveal. I'd argue that it's flexibility would be like that of Killua's or Hisoka's in that it can be used for simple and direct stuff, but could also be used for something more esoteric like shoving his blood into people and puppeteering them or controlling his own blood to increase his physical ability. It's just basically up to Togashi to set the limits since the field is wide open.
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"it was a blood clone all along hahaha"
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Bad Seafood posted:Maybe I'm missing something but I read Zhang's "I'm counting on you, father" internal monologue as him alluding to relying on his father's strategy of being patient and careful (as opposed to, say, Benjamin, Camilla, and Halkenburg going on the attack). If he's the don's son, he's the don's son, but something about this feels like overthinking it. And like Turin mentioned, Luzurus has features that don't match Nasubi with regards to his hair and jawline. Neither Nasubi or Duazul have comparable features. We also know Morena is Nasubi's kid so it's not like he doesn't have other kids running around, yet the only ones permitted to participate are the children of his legal wives. I think the technicality of rules and wordings is important here and like I'd mentioned I think that might have been what Zhang went to Nasubi to talk about. quote:Lynch's ability is pretty unambiguously cool, however. I wonder if one of her limitations is having to hit her opponents at full power, curtailing how much information she can glean relative to how sturdy her foe is.
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She’s going to accidentally find out who Hisoka is.
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Wild Horses posted:blood bag nen guy could probably shoot out his blood like bullets out of fingertips or make armor out of it. the more he gets hurt the better the ability gets. but he also loses blood. tbh all the coolest characters are the ones with the most solid fundamentals
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