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Also good lord i'm sick of the "Cynical shithead hiding from the security state in the iFuture" thing SR has fallen into since 4th ed. This book is a good idea. Note: I don't have a lot of hope that'll it'll be that good, since catalyst, but oh well. Edit: I take it back, hooding AND mundane only bonuses? Oh my.  Reach 5 claymore is go, or at least a reach 2 shockhand. Ronwayne fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Nov 23, 2018 |
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/259492/ that actually sounds good? and im interested in the location too? 
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Nov 23, 2018 19:12
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I've heard there's an armor mod that's just straight up bonus defense against magic, so I'm interested.
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Nov 23, 2018 19:39
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Ronwayne posted:Also good lord i'm sick of the "Cynical shithead hiding from the security state in the iFuture" thing SR has fallen into since 4th ed. This book is a good idea. Note: I don't have a lot of hope that'll it'll be that good, since catalyst, but oh well. This is more a problem with the gm imo, you can do oldschool shadowrun feel in 5e just fine.
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Nov 23, 2018 19:40
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Nalesh posted:This is more a problem with the gm imo, you can do oldschool shadowrun feel in 5e just fine. Considering the last run my group did before we stopped due to it not working out for us ended with a highway chase involving a trailer and a minigun armed helicopter I would say yes to that. But at the same time that does seem to be the tone the SR4 and 5 books have been pushing extensively.
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Nov 23, 2018 19:53
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Nalesh posted:This is more a problem with the gm imo, you can do oldschool shadowrun feel in 5e just fine. Oh yes, its ignorable, but it takes a deliberate effort to do so. The zeitgeist of the current edition is, well, annoying.
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Nov 23, 2018 20:05
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Or overbearing perhaps.
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Nov 23, 2018 20:06
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Hot drat, the Blight toxin + DMSO makes magic targets take drain tests against its 12 power, and it takes away spirits Immunity to Normal Weapons for the duration. Anti magic gas grenades are in, baby.
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Nov 23, 2018 22:04
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Ronwayne posted:Oh yes, its ignorable, but it takes a deliberate effort to do so. The zeitgeist of the current edition is, well, annoying. I feel it's better than the book in 4E where you were just straight up drug-runners, but yeah, there's a ways to go.
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Nov 23, 2018 22:27
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Nalesh posted:This is more a problem with the gm imo, you can do oldschool shadowrun feel in 5e just fine. You can't lay all of that at the feet of the GM. The tone of the writing in the actual books matters, and starting in 4e the tone of the hold changed the 'default' runner from a political activist who does runs as much to make a statement as to make money, into the new 'default' of amoral mercenaries trying to make mad bank freelancing for assholes. GMs can choose to go against that change, sure, but there was a dramatic total shift in Shadowrun as a whole starting in 4e.
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Apologies if this has been covered already but where could I go to pick up a physical copy of fifth edition? Haven't had much luck just googling it.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/259492/ gently caress, that looks interesting. Why the hell doesn't CGL advertise loving anything?
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Nov 24, 2018 03:46
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Dear thread someone please run a Warren's Waveriders game tia
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Nov 24, 2018 04:47
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Bumper Stickup posted:Apologies if this has been covered already but where could I go to pick up a physical copy of fifth edition? Haven't had much luck just googling it. Don't spend money on CGL books. The binding falls apart after literally just a week. Read through the thread for actual examples of that. If you absolutely must give CGL money - which many people are boycotting because they're a shady company run by an embezzler who doesn't like to pay writers - at least buying a PDF will get you a product that doesn't literally disintegrate in your hands.
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Yes, Catalyst has managed to avoid being the most poorly run RPG company by virtue of not having (yet) caused a real life international incident.
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Ronwayne posted:Yes, Catalyst has managed to avoid being the most poorly run RPG company by virtue of not having (yet) caused a real life international incident. Nah, they managed that already. Remember War! getting massive edits before being able to be published in Germany because the Arbeit Macht Frei section was illegal there?
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That is extremely unfortunate, but I still think White Wolf's "Gay purges in Chechnya are actually a vampire psyop" is probably worse.
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Liquid Communism posted:Nah, they managed that already. Remember War! getting massive edits before being able to be published in Germany because the Arbeit Macht Frei section was illegal there? Was that the jewish ghost killing, magic mengele machete one? I really need to get drunk and laugh at that book at some point.
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Ronwayne posted:That is extremely unfortunate, but I still think White Wolf's "Gay purges in Chechnya are actually a vampire psyop" is probably worse. Worse than running afoul of Germany's anti-Nazi laws by writing in an adventure where you go kill the ghosts of the holocaust victims to get not-Mengle's ritual murder scalpel, which is implied to be an intelligent magical item? Probably, but I'd say both are pretty damning.
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I mean, the German government didn’t start shouting about suing Catalyst and supposedly threatening people translating Shadowrun books so it’s a pretty big leap there.
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Mr. Maltose posted:I mean, the German government didn’t start shouting about suing Catalyst and supposedly threatening people translating Shadowrun books so it’s a pretty big leap there. They didn't have to. Their German publishing partner, Pegasus, caught it and stopped it before it got published in Germany and they would face criminal liability. Still in the English-language prints, though.
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Ronwayne posted:Also good lord i'm sick of the "Cynical shithead hiding from the security state in the iFuture" thing SR has fallen into since 4th ed. This book is a good idea. Note: I don't have a lot of hope that'll it'll be that good, since catalyst, but oh well. So...is the book good? and does Mundane mean non-Awakened characters, or is it more expansive than that?
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Pretty sure it's for non-magic people so not for mages and adepts.
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Oh dang, you can take 2 ranks of it and you get two choices per rank - reach 4 shockhands, reach 7 claymore.
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I recall "Mundane" meaning no magic or resonance score, but it might be just magic. Also: 
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SolTerrasa posted:Oh dang, you can take 2 ranks of it and you get two choices per rank - reach 4 shockhands, reach 7 claymore. Yeah, THREE RANKS. Have fun with that REACH 6 SHOCKHAND/9 CLAYMORE. It works out to like, 40 karma, post chargen, but yer a sam, what else are you going to spend it on? Yes, in a competent gameline, the book would be good. In the context of shadowrun 5th, it's goddamn amazing.
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I have to ask why people are more excited about reach than damage though. Doesn't it just penalize defense tests?
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wiegieman posted:I have to ask why people are more excited about reach than damage though. Doesn't it just penalize defense tests? Damage is boring. Reach let’s you use a telescoping whip claymore yo lop off heads across the room, and then bury the tip in the ceiling to swing from one balcony to another.
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Blocking the ability to dodge is usually more optimal anyway because most weapons hit hard enough to end fights already.
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Isn't reach capped at 4? I think I remember reading that, and it only provides a 1-4 bonus. Can you get it for -ware weapons? Reach 4 fangs would be hilarious. 
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Reach 4 shock hand just makes me imagine one of those extendo boxing gloves strapped to your arm.
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Nalesh posted:Reach 4 shock hand just makes me imagine one of those extendo boxing gloves strapped to your arm. joker hand buzzer that can also be thrown like a yo-yo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arbjAHydh2U
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Dhalsim is real, and strong, and the back-up Long Gun of the team
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It's just Zan from Streets of Rage 3.
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I love ARMS on my Nintendo Switch!
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A taser, but the little darts are boxing gloves. A sword twice as long as your entire body so you have to store it folded up like a pocketknife.
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SolTerrasa posted:A sword twice as long as your entire body so you have to store it folded up like a pocketknife. Not unprecedented.
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See, I think this is a better example. Bit out-of-genre, though.
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