ggangensis posted:

Awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDINMOlKwU&t=176s

I mean, yeah, you could argue it is fake and "not live"... but I've had more fun with this guy in his robocop costume than with star citizen... and I've wasted 70 bucks for the latter.

Colostomy Bag posted:

Oh, who has a referral code?

ggangensis posted:

Awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDINMOlKwU&t=176s

I mean, yeah, you could argue it is fake and "not live"... but I've had more fun with this guy in his robocop costume than with star citizen... and I've wasted 70 bucks for the latter.

ggangensis posted:

Awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDINMOlKwU&t=176s

I mean, yeah, you could argue it is fake and "not live"... but I've had more fun with this guy in his robocop costume than with star citizen... and I've wasted 70 bucks for the latter.

The Titanic posted:

Good post. Mirrors my opinion and that of others here I believe too.

My opinion is that with infinite money and infinite time they can build a whole game successfully based off of occasional lightning strike successes in their development.

However my opinion is also that the game is already a failure and can not be reversed. Yes, something great may still eventually come out, however there is nobody who has ever had to go to war over a roadmap and priorities that will claim any of this is even remotely successful.

It's an enormous failure.

The only major difference between this failure and most failures is that the people leading this are using it to milk money for development, rather than anticipate a cash out for sales.

This is an important fact that is talked about, but hast come up in a while, so let me rehash.

The people making Star Citizen have now raked in over $200M for a bunch of pretty art assets and promises, on a platform that is effectively a hacked up CryEngine mod. It's a fantastic mod, but it's busting at the seams.

This is important because it means development is super slow, super buggy, and a lot of things will not run very good. As we are experiencing currently. This isn't like this is a brand new event in software development. Everybody in development has, at some point, had to struggle with "the beast", which is that massive, super critical piece of software so ingrained in everything and so patchwork that extending it and adding functionality is a stress inducing nightmare. Launching a patch has people sitting there sweating and waiting for problem calls or emails to start rolling in, and somebody already has the command to roll the last merge back already typed into the console.

However it has taken decades of programmers to get to this point as well, across many people who aren't even at the company anymore. Questions can't be answered, and everything needs to be figured out.

This mess is Star Citizen now. It's an 8-year long project of super under-skilled programmers. The codebase is hosed up because the people leading it have no idea what modern software development means and how to approach things.

So back to the original point, about being paid to develop the game...

All of this is super critical to understand, and then you will understand why development is slow, graphics are a too priority, and even getting a new ship into the game is a monumental effort; on top of the fact that the game is still not a functional MMO and that development hasn't even begun yet (and at this point probably never will happen).

So with all that understanding, the easiest thing for people to do is to increase the graphic abilities for things they can get working. Turn the dials up to 11, and hope to god nobody notices that when the super pretty forests and cities show up, nobody realizes that there is no game behind it. It's just stuff and fluff; but it's somewhat cool stuff though!

And before I totally lose you, were going to circle back to the original concept of the massive text block: Star Citizen is doing all these things because working on the game itself is where the money comes from.

Duh, right?

Well here's the catch: actually finishing the development of the game is destructive.

If Star Citizen was done tomorrow, and had to rely on new sales, it would quickly dry up. Everybody loves to support it today because they see what it's trying to be, rather than what it is.

And this is a super powerful tool CIG has. That's why it's so hugely important for them to cultivate a social aspect of "them vs us" and immediately destroy any critical thought and negativity on their own groups. The hardcore inner circle people and their controlled forums are the bread and butter. Even Reddit is just an outlier of it all. Keep those people walled in, and develop indefinitely.

So, Star Citizen is always going to be in production, and even CR himself has said this; because it being made is where the money comes from. If it were to actually release it would die. As soon as reviewers can safely review it, it will get smoked. It will be a "very pretty but massively flawed and disappointing experience 1/10". CIG knows this, as they never want to lose the alpha/beta/always in production shield that nets them.

This is why you're moving into 7-8 years of development and you have a hideously pretty, but massively buggy and disappointing experience. The vision of what it may some day become keeps people spending money. The pretty art makes it look like it's legitimate.

So to round it all up!!!

CIG makes money by making a game.

Other companies make money by releasing a game for sale.

CIG has zero motivation to be like other companies when the state of their game is atrocious.

CIG must continue to make progress, and it must look pretty, but it can never be too much progress because they lack the talent.

In most, if not all software development systems, Star Citizen would have been shut down three years ago. As soon as the CEO missed their deadlines, and then went on to not have deadlines, it would have been killed.

If somehow it did manage to make it, it would have been shut down when the CEO bravely absolved himself of all responsibility for everything he said and promised.

What Star Citizen actually is, is the experimental husk of a project that should have been killed but wasn't. It is firing on that whole "what if... it wasn't cancelled?!" concept, and everybody gets to see it happen!

Could it be good: sure!

Could it be great: Absolutely!

Is it a failure: loving most assuredly. Nothing can stop it from already having failed. It failed many years ago, and that is unrecoverable. Sorry.

NoMas posted:

Here you go: STAR-MKBZ-M7D2

Please spend a LOT of money, thank you

Dogeh posted:

This one works better: STAR-CTZN-SH1T

boviscopophobic posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBOXQz7OHqQ

Bumble He posted:

thank you now i will have nightmares again.

boviscopophobic posted:

More nightmare fuel:

Sarsapariller posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkhaJJvjHAY

Sarsapariller posted:

I like how it plateaus during the time period when the whole site is offline, then goes back to rocketing upwards even faster.

Agony Aunt posted:

Meanwhile in ED...

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/9zngdx/spoiler_and_things_get_even_more_strange_in_the/

Space squids have been discovered.




Do they scream "ITS ALPHA!" or "You don't understand software development!" ?

Beet Wagon posted:

https://giant.gfycat.com/JitteryImperfectAfricanaugurbuzzard.webm

Scruffpuff posted:

This is loving awesome. How have I lived this long and not encountered this?

Exioce posted:

Installed it. 'Played' for two minutes. Dear Lord, does this thing need optimization. The animations are actually pretty great when they work. There's... fidelity. So I gotta give them that. But walking places at real-time pace is gonna get old real fast. Whether this thing will progress beyond an impressive tech demo, who knows. It's certainly not newbie friendly. Got out my bed, walked out my door, have to get on some train to get to my ship. Where's the mini-map guiding me there?

Lladre posted:

I watched a couple of clips of RDR2 and now I am actually considering picking it up.

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I was yesterday playing 6 hours non stop with a few friends in a Cutlass, Hurricane, Warden... and it was loving amazing. 3.3.6 has a few things bugged but nevertheless we were doing missions and exploring and we were drooling all the way, it is so huge and detailed. Performance is great outside of Levski and Loreville, I had 60 FPS with my 480p and a pal 100-120 with his 1080ti.

quote:

I was one of the first to criticize and I am in since Kickstarter. But they are proving themselves and shuting my mouth update after update.

Mirificus posted:

Hav posted:

So fallout76 has a couple of really hairy bugs. Craft pocketed armor and equip and dequip. Your carry capacity will go down. Once it’s negative, it’ll be infinite.