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unseenlibrarian posted:The saving throws are still 1E/2E like in that they're a set number that goes down each level that you have to roll over, it's just that there's fewer of them and stat modifiers can apply. There's no variable save DCs or anything that made 3E saves way harder to pass. It's not the mechanics, it's the feel of them. But having double checked, that's actually more true between D&D 2 and D&D 3+ rather than SWN 1and 2. What he did take out in SWN 2 are the Tech and Luck saves, which I really missed when a nanite-system started eating through one of the character's power armour, as none of the actual saves really were right. Re: saves in general I've talked about this in the Discord a bit, but I'm not terribly good at expressing myself. So in pre 3e saves, you save against the thing trying to harm you. You get to describe how you avoid the harm if you make the save. Going back to D&D, take a fire ball. In pre-3rd editions you'd save vs. spell, but it doesn't determine how you avoided harm. A fighter could say they just toughed it out; a rogue that they dodged; a wizard that they did a localised counterspell to protect themselves; a cleric that their god protected them. In 3e+ you save using the method used to avoid the harm, but the harm itself determines what save you use - you don't get to say how you protect yourself. In our fireball example, you would make a Reflex save. Everyone dodges the fireball, regardless of if that would fit their character.
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Hey TG friends I hope all y'all are having a good Thanksgiving whether or not you celebrate it.
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Hot take: Luck shouldn't be a stat, because getting a lucky break should be a random roll that you can't "get better at", or else it's not really luck.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Hot take: Luck shouldn't be a stat, because getting a lucky break should be a random roll that you can't "get better at", or else it's not really luck. *Fallout: New Vegas stares intensively*
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gradenko_2000 posted:Hot take: Luck shouldn't be a stat, because getting a lucky break should be a random roll that you can't "get better at", or else it's not really luck. what about Pluck
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gradenko_2000 posted:Hot take: Luck shouldn't be a stat, because getting a lucky break should be a random roll that you can't "get better at", or else it's not really luck. counterpoint: let me put all my points into Luck
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Is "you get better at this" at the core of what a stat is? I think some characters being luckier than others is okay even if "training" luck to improve it is silly.
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Nov 23, 2018 03:23
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Certainly in any setting which admits the supernatural varying amounts of luck seems plausible.
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Nov 23, 2018 03:24
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gradenko_2000 posted:Hot take: Luck shouldn't be a stat, because getting a lucky break should be a random roll that you can't "get better at", or else it's not really luck.
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Nov 23, 2018 03:34
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Best version of Luck is how Dungeon Crawl Classics does it
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gradenko_2000 posted:Hot take: Luck shouldn't be a stat, because getting a lucky break should be a random roll that you can't "get better at", or else it's not really luck. Surely "being lucky" is a valid character trait that can be represented mechanically. In fact, your luck can be improved by fulfilling lucky superstitions, getting blessings from gods and spirits, and carrying lucky charms. Just because luck doesn't work that way in real life doesn't mean it can't work that way in your fantasy rpg.
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FMguru posted:CoC also uses it as a "restart a stalled adventure" lever. When the players gently caress up all their rolls to find clues, and the adventure is stopped dead in its track, the GM (excuse me, Keeper) can call for Luck rolls to have someone stumble across whatever they need to get things moving again. Random rolls have failed us! Let's fix it with random rolls!
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Nov 23, 2018 05:10
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Fragged Seas has it as the Fate Point/Action Point gating attribute which works decently well. Because of the nature of that system, you can die by being shot in the luck too much.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Is "you get better at this" at the core of what a stat is? I think some characters being luckier than others is okay even if "training" luck to improve it is silly.
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01011001 posted:Fragged Seas has it as the Fate Point/Action Point gating attribute which works decently well. Because of the nature of that system, you can die by being shot in the luck too much. So you're saying their luck... Ran out.
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FYI if you're looking for a cheap-ish good tablet for books, Amazon's having a pretty good "Black Friday" sale on their Kindles. It's relatively easy to, without rooting, reskin them so they look and act mostly like regular Android tablets and less like an Amazon storefront top-to-bottom.
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Blockhouse posted:counterpoint: let me put all my points into Luck [You have been banned from all of the casinos in New Vegas]
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Reene posted:Hey TG friends I hope all y'all are having a good Thanksgiving whether or not you celebrate it. 
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Half-fiend turkeys with fire resistance running around like they own the place...
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01011001 posted:Fragged Seas has it as the Fate Point/Action Point gating attribute which works decently well. Because of the nature of that system, you can die by being shot in the luck too much.
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I read Fragged as Fraggle.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I read Fragged as Fraggle.
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Splicer posted:Does luck mean you get more points or better points or both? Also dying from running out of luck makes perfect sense. More points. And it does make perfect sense, it’s great.
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I always like how Monster of the Week handles Luck. You have a pool of 8 Luck, and you can spend a point to either cancel getting hit or to make a roll a 12. Thing is, when you run out of Luck, the GM is allowed to make hard moves at you whenever they want.
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01011001 posted:More points.
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theironjef posted:Random rolls have failed us! Let's fix it with random rolls! You can also have the players try to roll under their INT x 5 as an "idea roll" to see if, having both failed the Spot check to see the clue and the Luck check to inadvertently find the clue by dumb luck, they can instead intuit the next correct action in a eureka moment
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Whatever happened to Let Thrones Beware? Thread looks interesting but I worry that development's dead.
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Gort posted:Whatever happened to Let Thrones Beware? Thread looks interesting but I worry that development's dead. smkm's last post in this thread: slap me and kiss me posted:Sneaking on in here from my hiatus to let everyone know that recognized genius and all around great RPG dude Cecil Howe has just launched his The Forest Hymn & Picnic kickstarter, linked here. Can't see anywhere they said they were going on hiatus, from what, or for how long.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I read Fragged as Fraggle. So Farscape, then? 
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I like Blades in the Dark's Fortune Roll as far as implementing random luck results goes. quote:The fortune roll is a tool the GM can use to disclaim decision making. You use a fortune roll in two different ways:
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Gort posted:Whatever happened to Let Thrones Beware? Thread looks interesting but I worry that development's dead. Autonomous Monster posted:smkm's last post in this thread: Hey thanks for asking! I'm currently in the process of being literally murdered by my end of school masters research project. Going to pick up development again when that's finished, which ought to be in January.
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slap me and kiss me posted:Hey thanks for asking! I'm currently in the process of being literally murdered by my end of school masters research project. Going to pick up development again when that's finished, which ought to be in January. I'm in a similar boat, but I haven't forgotten my ages-ago promise to playtest Let Thrones Beware at some point. More because I like what I've seen so far than out of the sense of obligation to be honest, but still.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I'm in a similar boat, but I haven't forgotten my ages-ago promise to playtest Let Thrones Beware at some point. I was all "this is gonna be a short break while I pound out a paper," in April, and now I'm ~210 pages in and have until Monday to get this monster finished and submitted for grading. Here's to stupid decisions. Don't do school, kids.
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slap me and kiss me posted:I was all "this is gonna be a short break while I pound out a paper," in April, and now I'm ~210 pages in and have until Monday to get this monster finished and submitted for grading. Good luck and godspeed.
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Anyone use a Fire 7 tablet for tabletop gaming stuff? I have some gift cards and it's incredibly cheap right now, but I dunno how it handles PDFs and such.
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Dr Snofeld posted:Anyone use a Fire 7 tablet for tabletop gaming stuff? I have some gift cards and it's incredibly cheap right now, but I dunno how it handles PDFs and such. It's rear end. Doesn't matter how cheap. Even though you can buy one with ads turned off, it still has ads in different places. You're limited to a terrible Amazon app store, and the whole thing is slow as hell. It's acceptable if you absolutely need a pdf reader and nothing else, though.
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theironjef posted:It's rear end. Doesn't matter how cheap. Even though you can buy one with ads turned off, it still has ads in different places. You're limited to a terrible Amazon app store, and the whole thing is slow as hell. It's acceptable if you absolutely need a pdf reader and nothing else, though. It is slow, but it handles PDFs fine and side loading the google play store onto it is trivial. I have one to read PDFs and comics on and it’s good for that, especially for the price.
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I'm at a local RPG event and man I've been out of touch with the local scene. I'm playing some grog wargames with people and I think i'm joining their weekend group since they play not too far from my neighborhood!
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