|
CelestialScribe posted:No, what I'm saying is, "she may be good, stop giving her praise until she does something". congress is going to be deadlocked for the next 2 years even after theyre sworn in so 
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2018 23:56
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 15:39 |
|
|
Skex posted:I have a lot of respect for KM and PJ in particular and it does bother me that they don't view me as an ally anytime that I happen to disagree on something. It's frustrating because I am legitimately trying to be a good ally because I do strongly believe in the same cause. It might be hard for them to see you as an ally when you repeatedly declare that they must welcome in both people and rhetoric that make them subhuman into their political bloc. Otherwise they just aren’t being pragmatic enough and will never make any real progress. Complaining about a “purity test” for a positions like “let’s not bomb brown children” or “refugees and immigrants are people deserving of rights and protections” is a bad faith position right from the start. Being on the wrong side of genocide and/or supporting white nationalist rhetoric and policy should absolutely be hard lines that are unacceptable in even a milquetoast progressive. That’s the kind of beliefs and actions that should get your own loving family to disown you like the CHUDs who can’t go to family Thanksgiving anymore. The fact that you think it’s stupid and unreasonable to require Democratic politicians to not dehumanize minorities is much more reflective of your narrow perspective than any sort of naivety from the minorities saying “gently caress no gtfo with that poo poo”. I do think you’re trying to be good and right here, and aren’t being malicious, but being a good ally means conceding to the reasonable demands of your allies. And if your allies are saying that someone is disrespecting them and tossing them aside, maybe you should listen to and defend your allies instead of making excuses for extreme moral failings of Democratic politicians.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2018 23:56
|
|
|
Haha Skex went back and quietly edited the part where he called people who disagreed with him "irrational, ignorant apes". My dude you let the mask slip there and I don't think that the thread is going to let that kind of bigotry slide that easily.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2018 23:56
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:No, what I'm saying is, "she may be good, stop giving her praise until she does something". I kind of wonder how much influence she'll even be able to have once the Democratic house is sorted out. I mean we don't even know officially who is going to be speaker yet. That's pivotally important because that person gets to set the house agenda. If it's not Pelosi who she appears to have thrown her support behind she might not get a seat at the table. She'd also need to get on a committee which might not happen with her level of seniority or lack thereof in this congress. There's lots to consider that will no doubt frustrate people that want progressive change immediately come 2019. Stexils posted:congress is going to be deadlocked for the next 2 years even after theyre sworn in so And after all the above there's that too. Prester Jane posted:Haha Skex went back and quietly edited the part where he called people who disagreed with him "irrational, ignorant apes". My dude you let the mask slip there and I don't think that the thread is going to let that kind of bigotry slide that easily. I assumed he was talking about the chuds and Fox News anyway Kale fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Nov 25, 2018 |
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2018 23:56
|
|
|
While I think there's a lot of silly over the top stuff about AOC at least she's a good person for people to do it with. So like (a) try not to be a dick to people liking something/someone and (b) be thankful the person they like appears good because that's not always the case. *COUGHAvenattiCOUGH*
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2018 23:58
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:No, what I'm saying is, "she may be good, stop giving her praise until she does something". A politician running on and enthusiastically advocating for leftist policies is something. You’re basically saying that you can’t enthusiastically support anyone who doesn’t already have a voting record to judge them based on, which makes it pretty tough for new blood to break into politics.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2018 23:59
|
|
|
CelestialScribe posted:No, what I'm saying is, "she may be good, stop giving her praise until she does something". Tweeting so well that the right wing media is collectively going apeshit is a start for "something," because it's at least a new narrative, and it's okay to be happy about that instead of just counting down the days until she becomes a disappointment.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2018 23:59
|
|
|
All of the twitter dunking on Drumpf in 2016 ensured his defeat, therefore we must applaud politicians for continuing to do so.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:00
|
|
|
Being excited about AOC is in itself a political act. The enthusiasm for her politics sends a message to all other politicians; even if she personally is not able to accomplish much in the machine, the establishment will feel the wind blowing enough to at least start tacking in that direction. Edit to add: Cynicism about the possibility of change only emboldens the guardians of the status quo.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:00
|
|
|
Prester Jane posted:Haha Skex went back and quietly edited the part where he called people who disagreed with him "irrational, ignorant apes". My dude you let the mask slip there and I don't think that the thread is going to let that kind of bigotry slide that easily. To be entirely fair, in context it appeared he was talking about chuds and just isn't so good at proofreading his stream-of-consciousness idiot ramblings.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:02
|
|
|
LinYutang posted:All of the twitter dunking on Drumpf in 2016 ensured his defeat, therefore we must applaud politicians for continuing to do so. She’s not doing that though?
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:02
|
|
|
Akumu posted:Being excited about AOC is in itself a political act. The enthusiasm for her politics sends a message to all other politicians; even if she personally is not able to accomplish much in the machine, the establishment will feel the wind blowing enough to at least start tacking in that direction. This has to apply to The Media too so they stop being poo poo. Forever war, infinte fronts.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:03
|
|
|
Prester Jane posted:Haha Skex went back and quietly edited the part where he called people who disagreed with him "irrational, ignorant apes". Holy poo poo. Someone read a Skex post.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:03
|
|
|
BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:To be entirely fair, in context it appeared he was talking about chuds and just isn't so good at proofreading his stream-of-consciousness idiot ramblings. That's a pretty reasonable counterpoint. Still, it's extremely LOL that he did that in the same stream of consciousness that he accused others of rushing to dehumanize people.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:04
|
|
|
Prester Jane posted:*Wooster and the area around it has some drat fine Amish restaurants and God-tier donuts and pies. Not to risk food derail but I'm doing political campaign followup in the region so if you point out some handy targets, we'll get coffee, donuts, and pies there and report back.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:04
|
|
|
Prester Jane posted:Haha Skex went back and quietly edited the part where he called people who disagreed with him "irrational, ignorant apes". My dude you let the mask slip there and I don't think that the thread is going to let that kind of bigotry slide that easily. Nope. I eagerly await the follow up angry email to that probation tho.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:07
|
|
|
so the UK investigation into facebook got wind that a company suing facebook in California may have gotten, through discovery, documents that show that facebook knew about the exploit Cambridge Analytica used to steal data when that company's CEO was in London, the committee quite literally hauled him in front of parliament by dispatching a sergeant at arms, and threatened to arrest him if he didn't turn over that discovery info they'd gotten from facebook https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1066462676556095492
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:18
|
|
|
Kavros posted:Not to risk food derail but I'm doing political campaign followup in the region so if you point out some handy targets, we'll get coffee, donuts, and pies there and report back. Coffee I dunno about but for donuts you want a place called "Lerch's Donuts" for the finest (fresh) powdered donuts on gods green earth. (The pinwheels are particularly good as well.) They have mobile stations sprinkled throughout Wooster so it shouldn't be too hard. For pies you want to head on over to Troyers Home Pantry. I recommend the strawberry rhubarb if they have it, also of note the shoofly pie is one of those things that once you had the Amish version you'll never be able to look at another shoofly pie the same way again. If I eat a sixer for this just know that it was worth it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:18
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:Nope. probate people who call them chuds too
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:21
|
|
|
eke out posted:so the UK investigation into facebook got wind that a company suing facebook in California may have gotten, through discovery, documents that show that facebook knew about the exploit Cambridge Analytica used to steal data https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1066468157173444609 Sounds like Facebook might be hosed
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:23
|
|
|
eke out posted:so the UK investigation into facebook got wind that a company suing facebook in California may have gotten, through discovery, documents that show that facebook knew about the exploit Cambridge Analytica used to steal data I think technically they DID arrest him, that's what bringing him to parliament was, it was just actual fines and imprisonment was in the cards if he didn't turn over the documents.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:33
|
|
|
Skex posted:How does my pointing out a basic reality imply that people should just deal with it? lol you're insane
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:34
|
|
|
The Glumslinger posted:Sounds like Facebook might be hosed Inshallah.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:35
|
|
|
So what kind of issues with perjury might Zuck and co have from these emails? I know they gave a ton of testimony before congress and it sounds like these emails might show that they knowingly lied. Might matter with Dems controlling the House
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:36
|
|
|
The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1066468157173444609 I really hope they get some amazing lawyers to bring the hammer down on Facebook. I feel like a poo poo load of their ToS/data theft are not actually legal. Like a company could have its employees sign a contract saying they are slaves now and will receive no medical compensation for a workplace injury, but lol at that contract actually holding up in court. IANAL though, and I imagine the FB poo poo is much more ambiguous with the current laws on the books.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:36
|
|
|
The Glumslinger posted:So what kind of issues with perjury might Zuck and co have from these emails? I know they gave a ton of testimony before congress and it sounds like these emails might show that they knowingly lied. Might matter with Dems controlling the House I somehow doubt it, Democrats get a ton of funding from Silicon Valley robber barons. exploded mummy posted:probate people who call them chuds too Why?
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:39
|
|
|
The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1066468157173444609 Nah. Facebook is in "too big to fail" category, now. Congress and other powerful people will bend over backwards to keep it afloat, much like a lot of the banks during the recession. If it gets bad enough Zuckerberg might be forced out, but Facebook itself as an entity will remian.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:44
|
|
|
I would love to see the death of facebook, to just wake up, learn all the servers are unplugged and goodbye. There would be a lot of chaos though if that happened I think, a lot of people, just every day people have so much tied up in facebook it's embarrassing. From small side businesses that seemingly run entirely through the platform, to "social media specialists" who overcharge to watch feeds and use hootsuite, as a graphic designer nothing bugs me more than knowing that every social media chud I've ever had to deal with just sits on the internet all day under the guise of "for the social media platforms" and just auto directs things though a media manager. I can only imagine it would quickly be replaced by something down the road.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:44
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:I somehow doubt it, Democrats get a ton of funding from Silicon Valley robber barons. Sometimes people forget that when one goes full Nazi they have willingly tossed aside their humanity and need to be treated with caution because they are dangerous ideologues. The MAGA crowd certainly fits the bill, and need to be reviled publicly to make sure their hateful ideology doesn’t spread any further. The public transforming the KKK’s image from “honorable” white heritage defenders to moronic racist terrorists might have been the single biggest detriment to the growth and strength of the Klan. Give the Nazis no quarter, and resist them at all times. If they’ve decided to embrace the fash they lose the protections of public decorum and decency.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:49
|
|
|
what exactly do you think chud means
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:49
|
|
|
exploded mummy posted:what exactly do you think chud means I seem to vaguely recall that it means "a small fat penis" but perhaps I am misremembering. There's no need to play games, if it means something really offensive then just let me know or PM me or whatever.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:51
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:I seem to vaguely recall that it means "a small fat penis" but perhaps I am misremembering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.H.U.D.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:52
|
|
|
Oh. That is a... very obscure reference. I mean if people feel strongly about it we can ban it but I don't think it rises to the level of automatic probation, although it's pretty lovely that in the original context it was about homeless people falling victim to an uncaring and malicious government lol.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:55
|
|
|
LK you watch that film and the sequel immediately.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:57
|
|
|
That article doesn't actually go into why its being brought up, for some reason. What it actually stands for in the movie is "cannibal humanoid underground dweller."
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:57
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:I seem to vaguely recall that it means "a small fat penis" but perhaps I am misremembering. That's chode. Rhymes with toad.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:57
|
|
|
reignonyourparade posted:"cannibal humanoid underground dweller." This sounds like Republicans to me.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:58
|
|
|
I mean I try to alternate what I call them, but chud is by far the snappiest.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:58
|
|
|
I actually learned about this from a now banned Simpsons episode where they go to NYC
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:59
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 15:39 |
|
|
Anyone complaining about chud here on these forums is probably just a whiny pissbaby about the term being popularized by Chapo trap house.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2018 00:59
|
|
