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Lightning Knight posted:Oh. That is a... very obscure reference. I mean if people feel strongly about it we can ban it but I don't think it rises to the level of automatic probation, although it's pretty lovely that in the original context it was about homeless people falling victim to an uncaring and malicious government lol. I dunno, I think the idea that likening MAGA folks to a subset of individuals affected by a toxic environment exacerbated by government negligence that then go on to prey on the most vulnerable kinda rings true.
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Ague Proof posted:That's chode. Rhymes with toad. Ahhhhhhh I see. Yeah that's what I thought chud was lol. Is this movie known because of Chapo? I bet it's because of Chapo.
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Lightning Knight posted:I seem to vaguely recall that it means "a small fat penis" but perhaps I am misremembering. That's a chub. Theres a movie called C.H.U.D. where there is a mutant race of subhuman cannibal creatures. It's not really playing a game, because I wanted to know of you knew where that slang came from because its otherwise fairly obvious why I brought it up in a discussion on probating someone for dehumanizing people.
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Lightning Knight posted:Ahhhhhhh I see. Yeah that's what I thought chud was lol. Is this movie known because of Chapo? I bet it's because of Chapo. No!!! Chud and chud 2 colon bud the chud are American classics.
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Nov 25, 2018 01:01
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Kale posted:I actually learned about this from a now banned Simpsons episode where they go to NYC They use it on Futurama too.
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Nov 25, 2018 01:01
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exploded mummy posted:That's a chub. I mean generally speaking, the reason it came up is because historically the use of "ape" with regard to people has explicit racial connotation, and also Skex is just a poo poo poster lol. I disagree with dehumanizing right-wing people in general but I don't think it carries the same weight as historical dehumanization of non-white people, since nobody has ever nor is likely ever to create a movement built around dehumanizing and slaughtering right-wingers. (do not respond to this post with "sadly," because I have already predicted your joke and thus it is not funny)
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Nov 25, 2018 01:02
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Lightning Knight posted:nobody has ever nor is likely ever to create a movement built around dehumanizing and slaughtering right-wingers. The French revolution is a thing that happened. Also Soviet Russia. Also Vietnam. Also like half of South America.
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Zil posted:They use it on Futurama too. I know. Leela Subplot. Miss that show so much. 
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Nov 25, 2018 01:06
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Lightning Knight posted:Ahhhhhhh I see. Yeah that's what I thought chud was lol. Is this movie known because of Chapo? I bet it's because of Chapo. DrNutt posted:Anyone complaining about chud here on these forums is probably just a whiny pissbaby about the term being popularized by Chapo trap house. 
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Kale posted:I actually learned about this from a now banned Simpsons episode where they go to NYC The Simpsons actually show them in "Hello Gutter, Hello Fadder" when Homer attempts suicide, but is saved by a bungie-jumping Otto, where Homer's mass and momentum causes them to go through a manhole cover and see CHUDs, Morlocks, and finally Mole Men, led by their Emperor, Hans Moleman.
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Skex posted:How does my pointing out a basic reality imply that people should just deal with it? What the gently caress are you talking about? The nost extreme things in this thread is maybe Pelosi shouldn't be speaker (she will be), Manchin shouldn't be a senator (he still is), and maybe the magical center right triangulation of ClintonObamaSchumerOtherClintonPelosiKerryKaineLieberman and the rest of the garbage the democratic party has left flaming on our doorsteps for 30 years isn't cutting it. No one is marching you into a goddamn gas chamber. Get off the cross.
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Young Freud posted:The Simpsons actually show them in "Hello Gutter, Hello Fadder" when Homer attempts suicide, but is saved by a bungie-jumping Otto, where Homer's mass and momentum causes them to go through a manhole cover and see CHUDs, Morlocks, and finally Mole Men, led by their Emperor, Hans Moleman. Yeah I remember that one too.
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KillHour posted:The French revolution is a thing that happened. Also Soviet Russia. Also Vietnam. Also like half of South America. The Reign of Terror topped out at roughly 17,000 people, the Soviet Union mostly killed Ukrainians outside of war time, the Vietnamese did not engage in mass executions near as I can tell, only re-education camps where they sent roughly 300,000 people, and I'm not sure what specific thing in South America you're referring to, perhaps Venezuela? Which is a little bit busy falling to pieces to be organizing genocides. Not to say that any of these examples weren't bad, because they are bad, but I don't think any of them qualify as "rounding up and slaughtering right-wingers" in the same way as say, the Holocaust was the rounding up and slaughtering of Jewish people and other "undesirable" marginalized groups.
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https://twitter.com/jos21bell/status/1066475780157390848?s=21 Imagine this motherfucker stepping up to your office door.
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You said people never built a movement around it, not that there was never one as successful as the Nazis. There were definitely movements around violent removal of right wingers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobin Edit: I know you know who the Jacobin were. I put the link here for context. KillHour fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Nov 25, 2018 |
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Nov 25, 2018 01:14
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1glitch0 posted:If the person who received this letter started a GoFundMe or something the media would cover it as a feel good story like that story they did on the kid who was selling lemonade or something to pay for his service dog. At least until she gets kicked off of any state assistance programs or loses subsidized insurance for making too much money.
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Yes thats right. The nazis are duhumanizing people using a reference from a 1984 movie that grossed 4.7 mil. I think this one of those dumb leftist eating each other things.
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KillHour posted:You said people never built a movement around it, not that there was never one as successful as the Nazis. There were definitely movements around violent removal of right wingers. Granted that you are correct about my wording, their lack of success and prominence is precisely why it matters. Leftists make semi-ironic jokes about guillotining their opponents that are mostly harmless because leftists are unlikely to ever have the power to do that and many leftists today would actually object to the practice if it came to that. Right-wingers joke about committing genocide against the undesirables and it's scary because they've succeeded at doing exactly that in the past, repeatedly.
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/jos21bell/status/1066475780157390848?s=21  Sergeant at Arms are ridiculously loving badass. One time a nutjob started shooting up the parliament building in Ottawa and this guy Kevin Vickers took him down single-handily before he could do any major damage.
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KillHour posted:You said people never built a movement around it, not that there was never one as successful as the Nazis. There were definitely movements around violent removal of right wingers. The longer we go while conservatives drag their heels on action to combat climate change, the more likely it is that violent removal of right wingers will be necessary to save human civilization.
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Lightning Knight posted:Granted that you are correct about my wording, their lack of success and prominence is precisely why it matters. Leftists make semi-ironic jokes about guillotining their opponents that are mostly harmless because leftists are unlikely to ever have the power to do that and many leftists today would actually object to the practice if it came to that. Right-wingers joke about committing genocide against the undesirables and it's scary because they've succeeded at doing exactly that in the past, repeatedly. Considering "overthrow the government" is a defacto leftist position while "use the government to enforce religious/racial/economic castes" is generally a hard-right thing, isn't that a tautology? I mean, fascists have the power of the state while anarchists... don't. Doesn't mean fascists want to hurt people any more or less than the anarchists do. Edit: I'm not saying calling someone a Nazi or a chud should be probatable. KillHour fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Nov 25, 2018 |
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Google Butt posted:She's done something already, upset establishment dems, their supporters and dunked on multiple chuds. Says a lot that you don't see the value in this. So her only accomplishment is "owning the libs".
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Stickman posted:At least until she gets kicked off of any state assistance programs or loses subsidized insurance for making too much money. Then the United States healthcare system comes to her in the avatar of Bugs Bunny eating a carrot. He says "Ain't I a stinker!?" and then she dies of heart failure. Later her family is sued by Warner Brothers due to their loved one committing copyright infringement in her dying hallucination.
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KillHour posted:Considering "overthrow the government" is a defacto leftist position while "use the government to enforce religious/racial/economic castes" is generally a hard-right thing, isn't that a tautology? I mean, fascists have the power of the state while anarchists... don't. Doesn't mean fascists want to hurt people any more or less than the anarchists do. I think this is a fairly huge assumption tbh. We're straying far from the thread topic now though and I will drop it for now to keep things orderly.
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KillHour posted:Considering "overthrow the government" is a defacto leftist position while "use the government to enforce religious/racial/economic castes" is generally a hard-right thing, isn't that a tautology? I mean, fascists have the power of the state while anarchists... don't. Doesn't mean fascists want to hurt people any more or less than the anarchists do. I mean, there are other reasons why you might assume fascists to be more automatically predisposed to violence than anarchists. Like, y'know, an eternity of purifying violence being the actual, explicit endgame of fascism. Seriously, Mussolini and Hitler spell this poo poo out.
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Fulchrum posted:So her only accomplishment is "owning the libs". I know its your thing but Jesus you are dumb. Im not even American and I can see the significance of her being able to motivate and mobilize a large section of the Dem base that has typically been silent or absent for the last 30 years in such a short period of time.
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Fulchrum posted:So her only accomplishment is "owning the libs". holy gently caress i slept through all the rest of november, december, and most of january to inauguration day apparently
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Darth Walrus posted:Imagine this motherfucker stepping up to your office door. Is he carrying the mace?
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Furnaceface posted:I know its your thing but Jesus you are dumb. also i'd argue that her getting Pelosi and such apparently onside for at least putting together a special committee on climate change and that sort of thing is more important than 'upsetting establishment dems and their supporters', which frankly i haven't seen a ton of evidence of anyway it's a good sign for January
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The Lone Badger posted:Is he carrying the mace? No, but he's probably got his ceremonial sword.
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/jos21bell/status/1066475780157390848?s=21 i feel like the facebook thing should be a bigger deal but i guess they're still pouring over the documents to find the incriminating evidence Darth Walrus posted:No, but he's probably got his ceremonial sword. pretty sure he's got both? mace over the shoulder, sword in his other hand? that's what the picture looks like to me
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People know that humans are literally apes right? We are great apes, together with orangutans, chimpanzees, bonobos, and gorillas. The feeling that I got from Skex's post was that humans are irrational and illogical and at our core animals. It was a lovely way to phrase it, and deserved admonishment, but I don't think that it was what everybody seems to be assuming here.
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RaySmuckles posted:i feel like the facebook thing should be a bigger deal So far they don't seem to even have anything in particular in mind to charge Facebook with, they're just investigating the poo poo out of the whole Cambridge Analytica debacle and Facebook is being uncooperative (presumably because their internal handling of the security issues was very, very, very bad even if they weren't actually conspiring with anybody about anything). Discendo Vox posted:poring 
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RaySmuckles posted:i feel like the facebook thing should be a bigger deal poring
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Discendo Vox posted:poring nah, they're all lushes and just spilling their room-temperature swill all over the documents sorry i wasn't clear its an old parliamentary tradition
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RaySmuckles posted:i feel like the facebook thing should be a bigger deal I meant in the scenario where he's knocking on your door. Unless you happen to live in the Houses of Parliament. Lesser doors are officially undeserving of the mace - that's what the seven-foot-tall British-Moroccan guy is for.
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Furnaceface posted:I know its your thing but Jesus you are dumb. Not to mention if you look at her track record what more could she have done? Like literally. She was a random bartender a year and a half ago. Since then she mobilized a legit grassroots campaign, successfully defeated Pelosi's protege in a primary, won a seat in the house, and is expertly using social media to galvanize the left and clown on the right. And there's still over a month before she's officially a rep. What more could people possibly want? She isn't going to sprout wings and breath fire out of her mouth destroying all capitalism in the next 2 days.
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Darth Walrus posted:I meant in the scenario where he's knocking on your door. Unless you happen to live in the Houses of Parliament. Lesser doors are officially undeserving of the mace - that's what the seven-foot-tall British-Moroccan guy is for. sorry, i thought the 7 foot tall moroccan guy was the sarjent at arms
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Furnaceface posted:I know its your thing but Jesus you are dumb. In the context of the post he's quoting it's pretty apt though. I don't know why some people expect everyone to assign the same weight to scoring internet achievements like dunks for your preferred political viewpoint on social media versus passing actual progressive legislation. Of course not everyone thinks this way. That only works if you consider those internet things to be her actual sole accomplishments and it's a good thing they aren't. Getting elected to congress with a net worth that is a fraction of the average congresspersons is legitimately impressive in it's own right and could prove to be a glass ceiling shattering moment. GreyjoyBastard posted:also i'd argue that her getting Pelosi and such apparently onside for at least putting together a special committee on climate change and that sort of thing is more important than 'upsetting establishment dems and their supporters', which frankly i haven't seen a ton of evidence of anyway Forging an early alliance with a powerful party leader like Pelosi is also huge and shows she knows how to play the game already. A lot of things are more important than upsetting establishment Dems and their supporters by the way. I don't know maybe we should bring out the score card when she's served a full term in a majority caucus and there's an actual metric to use assuming she gets on a committee and isn't relegated to the back bench. By all rights she should be on that Climate Change committee since it was her idea in the first place. Kale fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Nov 25, 2018 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:So far they don't seem to even have anything in particular in mind to charge Facebook with, they're just investigating the poo poo out of the whole Cambridge Analytica debacle and Facebook is being uncooperative (presumably because their internal handling of the security issues was very, very, very bad even if they weren't actually conspiring with anybody about anything). If only someone would have warned Facebook and Zuck ahead of time that not respecting the privacy enforcement interests of a country could cause that county's government to play hardball in revenge... quote:Every nation founded on democratic principles has a strong and legitimate interest in ensuring that the security and privacy of the people it is charged with protecting are not improperly or unduly invaded. Failure to accommodate that legitimate sovereign interest threatens to provoke dangerous reciprocation by foreign governments—at great potential cost to U.S. citizens and service providers. Amicus brief filed in US v. Microsoft on Jan 18th 2018, joined by Facebook, Inc. Oh.
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