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Proud Christian Mom posted:It's also garbage Get bent, inbred loser.
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BigDave posted:That's all? Seems kinda low. That’s a hell of a RIM job. 
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psydude posted:Socialism means Legos, Volvos, and Ikea furniture. Ghasp No it doesnt.  I don't get this idea that Americans have that any Scandinavian/European country is socialist. Hell, Ikea is owned by a hyper rich family. European economies from north to south are fundamentally capitalist.
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AlexanderCA posted:No it doesnt. We've been hit with nearly a century of propaganda against the pinko commies, it's just ingrained in our minds and will take some deprogramming.
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Nov 25, 2018 06:59
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AlexanderCA posted:No it doesnt.
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AlexanderCA posted:No it doesnt. Compared to America they are
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AlexanderCA posted:No it doesnt. Meanwhile, in America:
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AlexanderCA posted:No it doesnt. The thing that is admittedly difficult to understand is that the actual meaning of the word goes right the gently caress out the window for a whole hell of a lot of dipshits in the "united" states and we end up in the world of truthiness. I would be shocked if a double digit percentage could give an accurate definition after decades of Republican propaganda hate-screeching the word at anything they don't like. To a not insignificant amount of the country that IS the definition, "a political thing I'm told not to like."
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AlexanderCA posted:No it doesnt. https://twitter.com/joe___nelson/status/1066481899164631041 Bonus content: some American dude arguing with a Brazilian that the demographics prevent the US from giving cheap insulin to everyone who needs it
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hobbesmaster posted:Compared to America they are Nah, we're really not. Just because the American system is the most dysfunctional capitalist, doesnt make our, mildly more functional capitalist systems more socialist. Edit; Though I guess the US already diverged on the meaning of Liberal in the 1930s. So I guess socialism will now mean anything not libertarian. AlexanderCA fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Nov 25, 2018 |
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Casimir Radon posted:You don't have people getting left behind like they do in the US, and obviously it's still possible to get rich. Could the system use some work? Yes. But thats not socialism. Just welfare spending, with money taxed from a free market economy. Somehow left wing Americans, including Sanders have bought into that republican talking point. And now I occasionally read people extolling the virtues of socialist Europe. Which is pretty funny, what with the Fascism going round.
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Pictured: a euro behaving extremely euroishly
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The American left is basically, from right to left and also in order of exponentially increasing scarcity: neoliberals who run the Democratic party, socdems who don't want to completely do away with capitalism but want something more like Scandinavia, democratic socialists who want to do away with capitalism and who's ideal economy varies wildly from person to person, and finally like seven actual communists/anarchists/etc. Everyone older than like 35-40 had their brains melted by the Cold War and would rather call themselves a pedophile than a socialist. Younger people see conservative media screaming about how these appealing social policies in Scandinavia and elsewhere are SOCIALISM and we say well I guess let's be socialist then!
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AlexanderCA posted:
You're not wrong.
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I lived in a developing country where clinics would have a nurse walk 5 miles up and down hills on dirt paths to drop insulin off at people's houses for free. I'll take poo poo "socialism" over whatever the gently caress it is we've got any day of the week
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AlexanderCA posted:
I'm just saying when the conversation is about how a large proportion of Americans will just die to treatable disease and injury because they can't afford treatment, hopping in and saying "it's not that great over here either, sure we cover healthcare for every citizen but we have racists and corporations, it's not all sunshine and rainbows here either! How amusing it is you call us socialists!" is insensitive at best.
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Eej posted:"it's not that great over here either, sure we cover healthcare for every citizen but we have racists and corporations, it's not all sunshine and rainbows here either! How amusing it is you call us socialists!" is insensitive at best. Thats not what I'm saying. I'm actually reasonably ok with the Dutch economic system at least. That's because I'm not a socialist. I'm not pleading for socialism. I guess I'm trying to say that if you want to copy a system it helps to actually know how it functions. E: but yeah I kinda latched onto a single statement while catching up on the thread without paying attention to the context I guess. That was kind of dumb of me. AlexanderCA fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Nov 25, 2018 |
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Nov 25, 2018 08:35
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So how does sweet potato pie fit into the culture war?
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ded posted:So how does sweet potato pie fit into the culture war? Get that poo poo the gently caress out, it's fake pumpkin pie.
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shes my sweet potata pie
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https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1065255994337435648 love me some poon
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AlexanderCA posted:No it doesnt. There are different flavors of socialism to include social democracy, like the Nordic model of market economies funding strong welfare states. The US on the other hand is mostly full on capitalism to everyone except the extremely weathy's detrimemt.
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I refuse to engage or associate with the tasteless Nebraskans who react like I've just roundhouse kicked their young daughter when I speak the truth that sweet potato pie improves on pumpkin pie in every respect
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Nov 25, 2018 16:00
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honestly they taste mostly the same to me
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Sweet potatoes are fine. Watched a news piece yesterday or so about african villages that have taken to growing them for the vitamins to keep their children from going blind. Sure, they taste awful to us, but lots of people rely on that nasty loving yam.
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if you have anything more extensive than a law that says you can't grind the poor into dust, you're a socialist country by many people's metrics
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Vasudus posted:if you have fixed
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Lol, Papadopoulos is going to prison. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ad09_story.html
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They likely won't. It's not like the imbecilic pieces of poo poo who read Breitbart would care anyway.
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Nine times out of 10 the “punpkin puree” you buy at the store to make pumpkin pie with, are sweet potatoes or yams.
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FAT CURES MUSCLES posted:Nine times out of 10 the “punpkin puree” you buy at the store to make pumpkin pie with, are sweet potatoes or yams. Is this an American thing or something cause I'm pretty sure you can't just lie in the ingredients list
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Eej posted:Is this an American thing or something cause I'm pretty sure you can't just lie in the ingredients list the USDA actually has a rather broad definition of what is a pumpkin and it includes a few types of squash which is what most purees are
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It's probably like all the various "tropical fruit" drinks that are like 85% apple juice by volume. So long as you put SOME of the listed ingredient in there you're not lying!
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AlexanderCA posted:Thats not what I'm saying. My point was that a social democracy doesn't mean command economics or the complete abandonment of the core benefits of a market economy. Conservatives in the US have poisoned the image of public health, education, and welfare by equating it to the failed authoritarian socialist regimes of the 20th century, and left wing ideologists in the US have done an awful job of explaining why caring for those who are less fortunate doesn't mean bread lines or prefab brutalist apartments.
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psydude posted:doesn't mean prefab brutalist apartments. No deal then. gently caress it. I've taken to describing socialism to my coworkers that asked me about it in the last month or so as "The belief that everyone should have healthcare, education, and something that resembles a social safety net by taxing the poo poo out of the monopoly man" and they were all like 'huh, that's it?' yeah mang, that's it. Spooky.
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Holy fuuuck
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Hey I was away for a day-ish and catching up. Not directed at any one person, but please be civil with each other.
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They’re waiting for the NRA to speak out against this lmao
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