November Current Events: Der Untergang

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Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

Woof Blitzer posted:

Regular lock isn't exactly much better than a smart lock. You're screwed either way!

I have no doubts that all it takes to bust open my front door is a will and a way, but I'd much rather whoever's doing so needs to either use a pry bar or start picking the lock rather than spoof a IoT lock that it's me coming in the front door.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:25

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 23:41

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

Yeah it wasn't Nest, it was some other company that I've never heard of. It was in one of the YOSPOS tech threads and CSPAM last week-ish. I'll see if I can find it.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:26

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

The modern world has made me paranoid. I'm definitely putting good analog locks on the house I eventually own, and probably cameras. I guess camera software with poo poo like geofencing and loiter detection is withing the reach of normal people nowadays.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:29

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Casimir Radon posted:

I mean it should just defer to your schedule or safe temps if it loses connection. It must have been some other company's thermostats because it seems like Nest already took that possibility into account.

There's at least a couple companies that make smart vents now, which seems pretty cool. You can partially or fully close off rooms you don't want to waste heating and cooling on at certain times.

I had a Nest that had the wifi chip go bad and had to have a new one sent under warranty. I can confirm that it reverts to plain old "set the temp to this" functionality when it can't connect. I think it would have problems if it lost power entirely and died but given that it is powered by the wiring and has a battery backup to continue operating absent power, it would almost certainly start relentlessly notifying you on your phone and the thermostat itself that there's been a power loss.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:32

Eej: Jun 17, 2007; HEAVYARMS

https://twitter.com/ActuallyEmerson/status/1067075006092464128

quote:

�I didn�t want to be part of that misery pie; I�m not a wallower in self-pity,� said Mr. White, who now runs Constellations Group, a strategic consultancy firm. �I really believe that once that decision is made, you have to get behind your president.�

Mr. White rejects claims that Mr. Trump holds racist views by citing improved black employment numbers. Mr. Eure rejects claims that Mr. Trump has advanced an anti-gay agenda by citing his appointment of Richard Grenell, an openly gay man, as ambassador to Germany.

Mr. Trump�s falsehoods? �Embellishing,� Mr. Eure said.

�Exaggerations,� Mr. White added. �He�s the marketer in chief for the United States. So what?�

...

Chatting inside their latest project, in the Buckhead neighborhood, they described a litany of slights by Democrats as motivation for switching sides.

There was the time, earlier this year, at Ralph Lauren�s Polo Bar in Midtown Manhattan, when Mr. White spotted Chelsea Clinton across the dining room.

Offended that she failed to acknowledge him, Mr. White said, he whipped out his phone and dialed Donald Trump Jr. �He said, �Do you want me to come over? I�m at the office, do you want me to?��

Mr. White added: �Trump picks up on the first ring. If you want to get to Chelsea Clinton, you have to call through five people.�

Donald Trump Jr. acknowledged the two have become friends. �It�s much easier to be a sheep and buy into the narrative than it is to decide for yourself,� he said.

Then there was the time in 2016 when Mr. Eure said he had headed to Philadelphia from the Hamptons to watch Hillary Clinton speak at the Democratic National Convention.

A windstorm had grounded all the commercial aircraft, so he pulled gilded strings to borrow a friend�s helicopter, he said. But as the couple rushed to say hello to the candidate, a staffer blocked them.

�This was about because we didn�t write a $25,000 check� in the final stretch of her campaign, Mr. Eure said.

Ms. Clinton�s campaign rejected the claim.

�Some people give their time and resources to causes and candidates for the right reasons, some don�t,� Mr. Merrill, Ms. Clinton�s spokesman, said. �No better indication of which case this is than to watch a guy decide to embrace Trump and all he stands for because he couldn�t get his picture taken one night.�

Since boarding the Trump Train, as they call it, for every morsel of recognition the Trumps have offered, the couple has responded with a feast � sometimes literally.

Over the summer, they hosted a private dinner for Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, the former Fox News host. The occasion? Celebrating that the couple were dating.

For Mr. Eure, the fealty feels natural. The son of a chicken and soybean farmer who put himself through college, Mr. Eure sees his father as a parallel to Mr. Trump, whose oft-pushed narrative is that he is a self-made man � nevermind that the president�s story is false.

His husband also said Mr. Trump�s travails resonated.

In 2008, Mr. White abruptly resigned as president of the Intrepid, pushed out, he said, after the state began an investigation into whether he had engaged in unlicensed commercial fund-raising.

He was not charged with any crime, but agreed to pay $1 million in restitution to the state as a settlement.

Mr. White, who said he had done no wrong, still winces when he speaks of the pillorying that followed.

The pair said their behavior was in keeping with a lifelong focus on mission over party, namely fighting for veterans and gay rights.

I will never get the hang of 2018 Mondays

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:33

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

FAUXTON posted:

I had a Nest that had the wifi chip go bad and had to have a new one sent under warranty. I can confirm that it reverts to plain old "set the temp to this" functionality when it can't connect. I think it would have problems if it lost power entirely and died but given that it is powered by the wiring and has a battery backup to continue operating absent power, it would almost certainly start relentlessly notifying you on your phone and the thermostat itself that there's been a power loss.

I suppose you could get some sort of catastrophic failure that takes the whole thing down and that could be bad, but that could happen with a regular programmable one as well.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:36

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

Eej posted:

https://twitter.com/ActuallyEmerson/status/1067075006092464128

I will never get the hang of 2018 Mondays

No war but class war

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:36

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Immanentized posted:

Not to mention that most of the more popular models have an issue with wireless firmware updates bricking the entire lock. This, in addition to the fact that many don't ship with analogue failsafes (I.e. a loving key) means that you can be 100% locked out of your own home because of shoddy coding and execution.

It must own like hell to be an unscrupulous piece of poo poo willing to rip people off in 2018. I refuse to like them but god damned if I won't envy their freedom.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:37

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

Eej posted:

https://twitter.com/ActuallyEmerson/status/1067075006092464128

The surprise isn't that some gay guys like Trump/GOP. The surprise is when rich people don't like Trump/GOP.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:38

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I love how whenever someone calls trump racist it is always "disproven" with 'LOWEST BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT EVER'

Also I have a keypad lock that is handy but it still can be used with a key and it's not online at all. It's handy cause I can have friends drop poo poo off while I'm out of town and not have to give them a key to look after

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:40

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

The smart money is backing both sides, because you can write off the loss either way.

People got mad as poo poo at so many corporations donating to the Trump inaugural committee except almost all those corporations donated the same amount to the democrats.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:41

Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT

Hot Karl Marx posted:

I love how whenever someone calls trump racist it is always "disproven" with 'LOWEST BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT EVER'

The 13th amendment really hosed up black employment numbers.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:56

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Nick Soapdish posted:

No war but class war

This. Bougie rich gays get the guillotine too, no exceptions.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 20:56

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Casimir Radon posted:

I suppose you could get some sort of catastrophic failure that takes the whole thing down and that could be bad, but that could happen with a regular programmable one as well.

Yeah, if there's a short that comes through the AC wiring you're probably losing any thermostat with electronics in it unless it's really minor. Heck it would probably make a "dumb" thermo a pain to use if you're getting a jolt when you touch it.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 21:03

MA-Horus: Dec 3, 2006; I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

I like the idea of class war

but I also like the idea of chud morons getting scammed out of all their money and a portion of it being donated to causes which would make them rage

# ? Nov 26, 2018 21:07

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Handsome Ralph posted:

Yeah that's where I'm at.

I like my Nest thermostat but know how to switch it to manual if need be and my hue bulbs are nice. But gently caress trusting my front doors deadbolts to an IoT device.

Yeah basically the same here. I'm pretty OK with the IoT poo poo that's helpful (Nest, Hue, etc.), but I draw the line at the door locks.

e: I have a Ubiquiti Unifi camera, which can be cloud connected if you want, but runs locally by default. You can also use your own hardware for the NVR.

psydude fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Nov 26, 2018

# ? Nov 26, 2018 21:21

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

Also hilarious is that time Nest bought out Revolv and then shut down their servers and intentionally bricked everything they ever made.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

This. Bougie rich gays get the guillotine too, no exceptions.

Three Olives has probably converted more people to radical leftism than anyone else in America

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Nov 26, 2018

# ? Nov 26, 2018 21:26

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Eej posted:

https://twitter.com/ejacqui/status/1066442484572577794

We're never going to bite the bullet and admit we need nuclear power, are we?

# ? Nov 26, 2018 21:46

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

We're never going to bite the bullet and admit we need nuclear power, are we?

Its probably too late even if we do tbh
Think that ship has sailed

# ? Nov 26, 2018 21:51

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

We're screwed, it's just a matter of who gets screwed and how badly.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 21:57

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

https://twitter.com/parkermolloy/status/1067077288263643137?s=21

Nostalgia4Infinity fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Nov 26, 2018

# ? Nov 26, 2018 22:11

Eej: Jun 17, 2007; HEAVYARMS

I gotta admit, "just grow oil from trees" makes a lot of sense if you ignore the externalities

# ? Nov 26, 2018 22:27

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

Cugel the Clever posted:

To be fair, a significant percentage of German peoples that immigrated to the US were (classical) liberals and radicals fleeing oppressive conservative regimes at home.

Sure, they ended up in Milwaukee though which is why it was so politically left (it had an actual socialist mayor until 1960) but on the other hand:

That photo was in 1930s Grafton, WI and not Germany.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:16

Flying_Crab: Apr 12, 2002

psydude posted:

Yeah basically the same here. I'm pretty OK with the IoT poo poo that's helpful (Nest, Hue, etc.), but I draw the line at the door locks.

e: I have a Ubiquiti Unifi camera, which can be cloud connected if you want, but runs locally by default. You can also use your own hardware for the NVR.

Why the issue with doorlocks? If someone wants to break in they're just going to smash the door/window and not bother hacking your IoT lock.

e: I want one of these, https://www.amazon.com/August-Smart-Lock-Connect-technology/dp/B0752V8D8D/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1543270940&sr=8-13&keywords=homekit+lock

Although my old rear end door is weird and has a non-compatible lock. Next apartment though, I'll definitely grab one.

Flying_Crab fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Nov 26, 2018

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:19

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

DoktorLoken posted:

Why the issue with doorlocks? If someone wants to break in they're just going to smash the door/window and not bother hacking your IoT lock.

I'm more worried about getting locked out of my house.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:21

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

Say "McDonalds" to be granted access to your domicile.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:25

Hannibal Rex: Feb 13, 2010

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

https://twitter.com/parkermolloy/status/1067077288263643137?s=21

Needs more Michael Biehn waking up from the nightmare.

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:26

AreWeDrunkYet: Jul 8, 2006; Can't post for 19 hours!

psydude posted:

I'm more worried about getting locked out of my house.

https://twitter.com/bjmay/status/1041833853852311553

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:27

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

Lindsey Graham's a piece of poo poo. Also, AOC still living rent free in the right's head before she's even sworn in is :discourse:

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1067120907649540096

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:36

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Handsome Ralph posted:

Lindsey Graham's a piece of poo poo. Also, AOC still living rent free in the right's head before she's even sworn in is

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1067120907649540096

LMAO, I'm pretty sure the US Holocaust Museum has talked about the Genocidal actions of the Contras before...

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:46

Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

where can i buy an AOC t-shirt

# ? Nov 26, 2018 23:59

mods changed my name: Oct 30, 2017

guess you're not a socialist

# ? Nov 27, 2018 00:01

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Going to sell burlap sacks with her face spray painted onto them

# ? Nov 27, 2018 00:05

mods changed my name: Oct 30, 2017

Proud Christian Mom posted:

Going to sell burlap sacks with her face spray painted onto them

# ? Nov 27, 2018 00:06

bob dobbs is dead: Oct 8, 2017; I love peeps; Nap Ghost

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

where can i buy an AOC t-shirt

https://www.facebook.com/Ocasio2018/shop

# ? Nov 27, 2018 00:11

MRC48B: Apr 2, 2012

Handsome Ralph posted:

Lindsey Graham's a piece of poo poo. Also, AOC still living rent free in the right's head before she's even sworn in is

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1067120907649540096

Actually, AOC is wrong. America sent several boatloads of Jewish refugees away. and denied visas to thousands more. :negative:

# ? Nov 27, 2018 00:21

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

MRC48B posted:

Actually, AOC is wrong. America sent several boatloads of Jewish refugees away. and denied visas to thousands more.

Yeah I know about the SS Saint Louis and the US turning away literal boat loads of Jews, but her underlying point that it wasn't illegal for them to show up in the first place to ask for asylum (even if the US royally hosed up and didn't grant it) is still correct and on point.

# ? Nov 27, 2018 00:33

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Vasudus posted:

Say "McDonalds" to be granted access to your domicile.

i'm lovin' it

# ? Nov 27, 2018 00:53

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

Well, that was fun. Bye, Paul.

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1067205302804799489

# ? Nov 27, 2018 01:00

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# ? Jun 5, 2024 23:41

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

DOUBLE JAIL

# ? Nov 27, 2018 01:03

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