Arturo Ui posted:

I'm half convinced Pelosi/Blue Dogs war is a bunch of theater to keep the left in line

GreyjoyBastard posted:

senate's every six years (with three staggered classes so 1/3 of the Senate is up for election in any given year, not counting deaths or resignations)

edit: oh right, this one's a partial because Thad Cochran, nm, two years it is

having a D incumbent in the Trump reelection year would be very useful though

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

That have a use for centrist Democrats, as flak they can point to and say "Wow at least I'm not that guy"

The Glumslinger posted:

Also, they scoured all of Mississippi and Hyde-Smith was the best person they could find for this seat? Its not like she managed to win a crowded primary like Moore, they picked her for this seat.

Condiv posted:

i don't need one skex, cause i'm not arguing that socialism is the cure for sweatshops, i'm arguing that sweatshops shouldn't exist. further, the remedy i proposed isn't even close to socialism. i understand that you want to cast it as "full socialism now!!!!" cause you want to paint me as unreasonable without having to actually argue in defense of sweatshops cause doing so makes you look like a monstrous fool, but it's not really fooling anyone

Kale posted:

Maybe it's just me but the thing about Hyde-Smith outside of the now becoming requisite horrid views to be a GOP candidate thing is she just looks so loving weird. I legit feel like I'm looking at some sort of pack of cigarettes a day for 30 years inbred I'd expect to see at a bingo hall with 20 loving cards in front of her ready to go, not running for public office. Like her jaw is all misaligned and she always has that weird grimace like maybe she can't close her mouth properly. I know it's like tertiary to her other big time problems, but man does she look uniquely weird for a political candidate.

Skex posted:

I'm not trying to paint you as anything. I'm trying to get you to tell us what your solution is.

Skex posted:

Skex posted:

I'm not trying to paint you as anything. I'm trying to get you to tell us what your solution is.

Skex posted:

Explain to me if these roadblocks are not so intractable why do they exist and why haven't they been overcome already?

Tatsuta Age posted:

*prints out this post, rolls a giant blunt outta it with a bunch of mids and smokes it* *exhales* yeah, man

But have you considered full socialism now would actually own

Kerning Chameleon posted:

It doesn't even matter if the lander broke some doodad and can't even do science now. Motherfucking Trump's signature gets to be immortalized for all time on Mars and there's nothing any of us can do about it now.

Should've loving plowed into the ground in a fiery wreck, like all objects baring Trump's brain-addled scribbings deserve.

also, i'm against further space travel and exploration in general these days

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

we call them "labor protections," skex

they're this thing that once upon a time democrats pretended to believe in. you know, back when they had any political power at all.

Kale posted:

Maybe it's just me but the thing about Hyde-Smith outside of the now becoming requisite horrid views to be a GOP candidate thing is she just looks so loving weird. I legit feel like I'm looking at some sort of pack of cigarettes a day for 30 years inbred I'd expect to see at a bingo hall with 20 loving cards in front of her ready to go, not running for public office. Like her jaw is all misaligned and she always has that weird grimace like maybe she can't close her mouth properly. I know it's like tertiary to her other big time problems, but man does she look uniquely weird for a political candidate.

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But over the weekend, Kavanaugh was indeed back at it during the 2018 Dick Brown Memorial Turkey Shootout, an annual basketball tournament for CYO squads held in Hyattsville, Md. Kavanaugh’s 12-and-under Blessed Sacrament squad, the defending champs, made it all the way back to the championship game this year.

The rest of the testimony notwithstanding, Kavanaugh’s claim about being an ardent supporter of girls hoops is unimpeachable. Tournament director Joe Sego tells me that Kavanaugh has brought teams to the event—named after longtime DC-area youth coach Dick Brown, who died in 2006—for at least the last four years. Word around D.C. basketball circles is that the FBI actually contacted youth hoops referees during their September investigation of Kavanaugh and asked about his conduct during the games. “I think everybody said he wasn’t an intolerant douchebag,” says one source familiar with the background check.

The renown/notoriety the jurist-coach has gotten since the hearings didn’t cause much change in how the competition was run, Sego says, other than “the three [Secret Service] guys standing at the door this year.”

BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

Because it's a feature, not a bug, of the present system? The incrementally helpful but still very deeply capitalist and still very bad solution is to include substantial and enforceable labor protections in any trade agreement. The CPTPP isn't entirely terrible in this front, but who knows if it's enforceable (or if anyone cares), plus the protections for foreign investors will likely undermine public spending.

A better solution is to simply not accept products made by sweatshop labor regardless of what we or anyone else gets out of the deal, but since rich people can't pay more taxes, that means poor people in the US can't wear clothes anymore.

Kale posted:

Maybe it's just me but the thing about Hyde-Smith outside of the now becoming requisite horrid views to be a GOP candidate thing is she just looks so loving weird. I legit feel like I'm looking at some sort of pack of cigarettes a day for 30 years inbred I'd expect to see at a bingo hall with 20 loving cards in front of her ready to go, not running for public office. Like her jaw is all misaligned and she always has that weird grimace like maybe she can't close her mouth properly. I know it's like tertiary to her other big time problems, but man does she look uniquely weird for a political candidate.

Skex posted:

Can you be any more vague perhaps? Labor protections is a pretty broad stroke, what form should those labor protections take? I mean technically protectionism is a "labor protection" so should we just not engage in any trade? Should we only trade with other industrialized nations with similar living conditions, wages and cost of living?

Seriously if this is all so easy and these obstacles so trivial, why haven't we reached this utopia you envision already?

I'm questioning your intentions even though you constantly question mine, I'm seriously asking you, if you really think that you have a better answer that is so workable share it with the class so that we can maybe get it implemented and save the world.

DaveWoo posted:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1067147723483332610

Ogmius815 posted:

How many Rhodes scholars does Mississippi produce that the title of "first female Rhodes scholar" from the university makes more sense than just "a Rhodes scholar from Mississippi"?

Ogmius815 posted:

How many Rhodes scholars does Mississippi produce that the title of "first female Rhodes scholar" from the university makes more sense than just "a Rhodes scholar from Mississippi"?

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

because people like you are eternally willing to sell out everything you claim to believe in in exchange for cheap slacks and a headpat for being a good boy from someone who says "would you rather white people die for my profits instead," Skex.

you're old enough to remember apartheid. how did we put pressure on a nation to stop engaging in a hideous, brutal plan of segregation. how did we make them institute the labor protections "these are not animals that can conveniently be given tools, they are people."

sure, there were plenty of free trade types who proclaimed boycotting South African goods was an unbearable exercise in pie-in-the-sky tyranny. that the only people it was REALLY hurting were the same South Africans it was designed to help.

how did that vague-rear end plan pan out, given, as we all know, It's So Much More Complicated Than That (tm)

my bony fealty posted:

yeah that bitch sure is ugly huh?

she sucks but her appearance is not something you need to criticize

PhyrexianLibrarian posted:

There are SO many reasons to not like Hyde-Smith, her appearance shouldn't be one of them. Saying poo poo like this makes it sound like she'd be more tolerable if she were more attractive.

No Safe Word posted:

https://twitter.com/clairehoworth/status/1066874009416019968

Brisack 20XX (whenever she's 35, presumably by 2036?)

Skex posted:

See there it is again. you can't have a discussion without projecting some imagined ill motive on the part of anyone who even asks a simple question about what you are proposing.

And yes I do remember Apartheid but I will note to you that it's not like South Africa became an Apartheid state in 1980, they were one long before that. It was also a much more clear cut case of evil that didn't require much in the way of nuance to understand just how loving wrong it was. It was also the final end or a long struggle on the part of black South Africans to gain their rights, A struggle that started way before WW2. And it probably didn't hurt that there wasn't that much that the United States got from South Africa at that point in time so that boycotting South Africa was mostly just theoretical. Your assertion that it was the American Boycott that ended it is also rather dismissive of the struggle that people in South Africa engaged in to end that regime it's not like Americans started boycotting and instantly the Boers surrendered.

http://courses.wcupa.edu/jones/his311/timeline/t-safrica.htm

Seems like a real white mans burden argument to credit American consumers with the victory of black South Africans over their oppressors.

Skex posted:

See there it is again. you can't have a discussion without projecting some imagined ill motive on the part of anyone who even asks a simple question about what you are proposing.

And yes I do remember Apartheid but I will note to you that it's not like South Africa became an Apartheid state in 1980, they were one long before that. It was also a much more clear cut case of evil that didn't require much in the way of nuance to understand just how loving wrong it was. It was also the final end or a long struggle on the part of black South Africans to gain their rights, A struggle that started way before WW2. And it probably didn't hurt that there wasn't that much that the United States got from South Africa at that point in time so that boycotting South Africa was mostly just theoretical. Your assertion that it was the American Boycott that ended it is also rather dismissive of the struggle that people in South Africa engaged in to end that regime it's not like Americans started boycotting and instantly the Boers surrendered.

http://courses.wcupa.edu/jones/his311/timeline/t-safrica.htm

Seems like a real white mans burden argument to credit American consumers with the victory of black South Africans over their oppressors.

Kale posted:

I also notice he's a very different person when he does chopper talk compared to just about any other time. If that's all you saw of him you'd almost think he was some mild mannered folksy buffoon president like Reagan or Bush II rather than a forever aggrieved rage monkey.

No Safe Word posted:

They've had 25 others apparently, though I can't find out when but the Ole Miss website says they had 25 in 2008, and the current list on the Rhodes Scholar website still says they have 25 so presumably she's the first in 10 years.

e:
Rhodes Scholar list: http://www.rhodesscholar.org/assets/uploads/2018%20RS_Number%20of%20Winners%20by%20Institution.pdf
Ole Miss site: https://olemiss.edu/aboutum/history.html

Kale posted:

Point out. Some people are weird looking to me, its as i said tertiary.


No not in the slightest. Me thinking she looks odd doesnt magically cancel out that her views are abhorrent if i didn't, thats not really how ideas work. It is sort of possible to hold two ideas up side by side and not have one make much of a difference out of the other even if the overall subject is the same. Much has already been said about Hyde-Smiths horrid views, which i did mention incidentally. I dont really think i need to add too what is apparent unless she does something new and lovely. Rather i figured I'd add another idea to the mix. Its kind of like Dan Crenshaw and his eyepatch, people talk about that because it makes him look unusual. They also talk about his poo poo views. It is what it is.

Lote posted:

Members of the Problem Solvers Causcus will most likely be put on the newly created Problems to be Solved Committee if this gambit fails.