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Kobayashi
Aug 13, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

Parkingtigers posted:

https://twitter.com/norynsyra/status/1067158288775569408?s=21

I know Bitcoin is back at $3600 but did you nocoiner fucks realise that Jeff Bezos is a communist?

Did u know? The world's richest capitalist is actually a communist?

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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
scott adams is bad tho

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

Dolphin posted:

scott adams is bad tho

yes

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Dolphin posted:

scott adams is bad tho

it is known

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
by me: miners are so hosed lol

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Pawn 17 posted:

When have they ever given infrequent audits?

all the time! they just define "audit" as a cross-your-heart solemn promise, like on their website where they say they have $2.5 billion in assets. can't you read?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Jenrai posted:

You, sir, are a hero among men. From grauz gifs to gangtags to this masterpiece.

Also this:


This is the thread content I come here to see.

Twinty Zuleps
May 10, 2008

by R. Guyovich
Lipstick Apathy
i would like to thank myself for buying $37 of bitcoin with money i had left over on Robinhood so that i could turn a profit from paying so much goshdarned attention to this shitshow because as soon as i did that the price has plummeted with no signs of stopping

you're welcome.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

https://twitter.com/_blockandchain_/status/1067114278044356608

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

quote:

The hash rate changes approximately every two weeks. But capital expenditure — building and deploying single-purpose mining hardware — has a rather longer lead time.

You have to wait for Bitmain to send you an Antminer S9, long the most efficient miner — though the Ebang Ebit E10 is the new hotness.

And Bitmain was pumping out S9s as fast as possible! And charging what the market could bear — $3000-$3500 in December 2017, pretty much because they could. $2320 in January 2018, around $900 in May 2018 and $414 in August 2018. Gouge while the gouging is good.


Is there a single loving stage of this that isn't total grift?

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Lambert posted:

Very stable, goes up whenever Tether pumps in a few millions.

Yup, Tether pumped another $50m USDT in yesterday to get a 12 hour ~$500 spike. Back at 3700 now.

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice

Heath posted:

Is there a single loving stage of this that isn't total grift?
The laughs we've all had following this are pretty legit.

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS

Twinty Zuleps posted:

i would like to thank myself for buying $37 of bitcoin with money i had left over on Robinhood so that i could turn a profit from paying so much goshdarned attention to this shitshow because as soon as i did that the price has plummeted with no signs of stopping

you're welcome.

congrats guy

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Sashimi posted:

The laughs we've all had following this are pretty legit.

It turns out the real Bitcoin was all the fun we had along the way.

so, uh, sorry if you invested money in the actual, literal Bitcoin

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Sashimi posted:

The laughs we've all had following this are pretty legit.

That's why I don't want it to totally die just yet. It's been an amazing source of entertainment for a long time.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
I wonder what the Winklevoss boys position is these days

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

The Protagonist posted:

I wonder what the Winklevoss boys position is these days
Didn’t someone steal some bitcoin from them? Well hey, silver lining, they lost less as a result of this crash.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Here's another fun read by that guy.

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchai...ain-conference/

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

It's amazing how long the tether has maintained its value, I'd imagine that once tether breaks it's all gonna go to hell.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009


"That guy" is Divabot.

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
Isn’t tether just the same kind of fraudulent market data that propped up Mtgox?

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
Awful Industries, LLC
Going back and reading the first page of this thread is hilarious.

Duckbox posted:

I'm pretty sure it's just another investment bubble.

Serak posted:

I would question what on earth would make you believe this


Bitcoin, the hallmark for consistent, sustainable growth.

Chief McHeath posted:

More like













Buttcoin

In one year and 576 pages we have come full circle.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I'm confused, is the assertion that all tethers are backed up with dollars and they just burned 50 million to prop the price up for three hours?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I'm confused, is the assertion that all tethers are backed up with dollars and they just burned 50 million to prop the price up for three hours?

Haha 50 million dreams more like.

Lol backed by 50 million real dollars just lol at that.

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I'm confused, is the assertion that all tethers are backed up with dollars and they just burned 50 million to prop the price up for three hours?

Sort of. The tether/stablecoin stuff is pretty shady, but basically acts as a reserve for the Bitfinex Exchange to buy bitcoins to keep the price up.

They are not audited so there’s little reason to presume that their data reflects any kind of reality.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Is there a tally of how much "totally real money" that tether has put into the system? It seems like every time I check this thread the printer starts running.

Rock Puncher
Jul 26, 2014

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Is there a tally of how much "totally real money" that tether has put into the system? It seems like every time I check this thread the printer starts running.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tether/


Circulating Supply
1,856,421,736 USDT
Total Supply
2,580,109,502 USDT

https://wallet.tether.to/transparency

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


Heath posted:

Is there a single loving stage of this that isn't total grift?

Yeah, my takeaway was also that the companies selling mining rigs were the real winners throughout this whole thing. They could theoretically just take their earnings and walk away (assuming they're not reinvesting them in coins...)

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum
I'd love to know how much theymos has made from all the donations "for new software" and purchased statuses over the years. If he held onto even a fraction of the Bitcoin the forum collected it would have been worth serious money over the last 12 months.

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008

Thesaurus posted:

Yeah, my takeaway was also that the companies selling mining rigs were the real winners throughout this whole thing. They could theoretically just take their earnings and walk away (assuming they're not reinvesting them in coins...)

bitmain is facing bankruptcy because they went all-in on the bch hash war lol

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
Awful Industries, LLC

Thesaurus posted:

Yeah, my takeaway was also that the companies selling mining rigs were the real winners throughout this whole thing. They could theoretically just take their earnings and walk away (assuming they're not reinvesting them in coins...)

They all did. Even though they gouged the price of rigs by 500-1000% for months they are still getting hosed by investing in coins or creating their own coins.

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008

i hope bitmain dies, they're a cancer on the crypto community

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

There Bias Two posted:

I thought that each coin becomes increasingly more computationally intensive to mine, where eventually you'll reach the point where
it's no longer viable to do so, regardless of the number of miners.
I never much got involved in cryptocurrency but the layman's explanation I came to understand was that there was essentially a fixed amount of coin that could be farmed in a given timeframe and the power of the hardware mining it just determined who statistically got what fraction of that pot. As the value of the coin increases/decreases it's worth more/less throwing bigger hardware at the problem but whether it's worth 100 or 100k bucks there's gonna be some level of involvement that makes it worthwhile for people mining. Value go down, miners leave until the hardware/electricity requirements decrease enough to make it worth staying for the people who are left.

I imagine there will always be miners so long as it hasn't completely collapsed, as there were during it's rise.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

ArbitraryC posted:



I imagine there will always be miners so long as it hasn't completely collapsed, as there were during it's rise.

Once all the coins are mined they will be dependent on transaction fees, which don't offer the same "get rich quick" incentive.

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!
This is a Pokemon card investor, explaining why bitcoin is bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsz-SIpqx6Y

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

between bitcoin and your hairline, which has more potential for growth

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

A big flaming stink posted:

between bitcoin and your hairline, which has more potential for growth

The hairline. There's plenty more value for bitcoin to lose.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week
there's two things that make coins more difficult to mine:
1. the system self-adjusts to keep the rate of coin production constant, which means if everyone throws more compute power at it the difficulty goes up. if people stop mining the difficulty will go down. (but it can only adjust when new blocks are successfully mined, so the "frisbee on the roof" scenario is if a whole *lot* of compute goes away and it starts taking a week between blocks which grinds transactions to a halt.)

2. about every 4 years the reward (in number of bitcoins) for making a new block is cut in half. eventually it becomes zero and no new butts can be made. thus the attraction to bitcoin from goldbuggers, libertarian idiots, and economic autists who think value is absolute and inflation is bad.


Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I'm confused, is the assertion that all tethers are backed up with dollars and they just burned 50 million to prop the price up for three hours?

bitfinex got hacked in 2015 and 2016; they got $72 million worth of butts stolen the second time. after a bunch of back and forth they said they'd give people back their deposits with a combination of bitcoin and tether.

in 2017 they created like 2 billion worth of tether

people didn't know that bitcoin and tether were the same people until november 2017. bitfinex went through hidden offshore company registration to set that up.

so no, skeptical outsiders think that tether is not at all backed and they're running a complicated ponzi in the style of enron. you can do a lot of manipulation if you run both a large exchange and a currency that at least some people think has value.

Klyith fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Nov 27, 2018

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Lawlicaust posted:

They all did. Even though they gouged the price of rigs by 500-1000% for months they are still getting hosed by investing in coins or creating their own coins.

Don't forget they mined with the miners for months and only gave them to their customers after they passed the break even point for the electricity cost

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Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Lemming posted:

Don't forget they mined with the miners for months and only gave them to their customers after they passed the break even point for the electricity cost

Getting high on your own demand. That's the real poo poo.

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