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Because EXCHANGESERVER is too easy.
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Sickening posted:First off the windows administration team manager went over this “grueling” task of changing production dns servers entries for thousands of Servers across multiple continents. Trying not to be a jerk I asked the obvious question “what is the big challenge to this project?”. His entire bottleneck was performing these actions during outage windows. Okay fair enough, so I asked him how much time he needed to complete the project and the personnel needed etc. His estimates shocked me. Of course when I went over the details of the project he had people RDing into these severs and changing the dns entries. Wait are they manually entering BIND configs here or something? As you've already replied, is there some reason you can't just powershell this beyond "powershell is scary and hard"?
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Nov 27, 2018 20:57
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TheFace posted:11 = number of server, however this was confusing because there weren't 01-10 before this server, this was the new numbering for Exchange 2010 servers at the time because 2007 servers were 01-02 Uh, what the hell are you talking about, this is how you increase security! No one will suspect there aren't 10 more Exchange servers and they'll spend all their time trying to login to #3-9 because those MUST be the super secret Exchange servers with the most important email! SECURITY!  
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Nov 27, 2018 20:59
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ChubbyThePhat posted:Wait are they manually entering BIND configs here or something? As you've already replied, is there some reason you can't just powershell this beyond "powershell is scary and hard"? It appears they have managed the entire windows infrastructure by point and click.
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Nov 27, 2018 20:59
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My favorite host name system was at the service provider that threw in CLLI codes to the hostname. PurposeXX-module-CLLI-state. I loved it so much I adopted it for a national building management company when they did massive network refresh. This bank requires a reference document in order to translate the host names and it's a bit annoying.
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Nov 27, 2018 21:03
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Sickening posted:It appears they have managed the entire windows infrastructure by point and click. Why else would you put a UI on a server. working as intended imo
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Nov 27, 2018 21:06
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Sickening posted:It appears they have managed the entire windows infrastructure by point and click. I suffer from impostor syndrome a lot but reading posts like these help me with that (and make me sad, because I'm pretty sure they're paid a lot more than me).
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Nov 27, 2018 21:07
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Does anybody have any inspiration for setting up a home working space in a way that can be put away at the end of the day? My sister wants to try and work from home more often but the only suitable room in her apartment is the kitchen/living area which has a large table but not a lot else. A decent chair can be wheeled in easily enough but a quick way to not have to leave a couple of displays set up would be nice - I'm out of ideas.
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Nov 27, 2018 21:21
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Neddy Seagoon posted:This seems like the kind of thing you could do surely do with an automated script. It is. In fact I just did it about 3 weeks ago. 1100+ windows servers, zero impact. Took 20 minutes to find a script online and tweak it the way I wanted to do it. edit: If anyone cares I used this as a base and tweaked a few things. https://thinkpowershell.com/change-dns-servers-for-computers-with-static-ip-addresses/ I even setup 3 different versions to take in a txt file, csv (with several options), or an AD query for my teammates. Pretty sure they think I'm a loving wizard or someshit and this is like Powershell 200 level stuff. Sickening posted:It appears they have managed the entire windows infrastructure by point and click. I consider myself a pretty decent Windows Admin, but know I'm not elite or anything and this makes me cry. If you're open to remote candidates let me know when you post your future job openings. 
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Nov 27, 2018 21:29
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Point and click is basically fine below a couple hundred servers. Nothing like tripling the size of one's environment to make them believe in the gospel of scripting, though.
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Nov 27, 2018 22:59
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Point and click is basically fine below a couple hundred servers. Nothing like tripling the size of one's environment to make them believe in the gospel of scripting, though. If you are able to use Powershell - even if you have just one server. Why not use it?
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Nov 27, 2018 23:06
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Tab8715 posted:If you are able to use Powershell - even if you have just one server. Why not use it? Most Windows admins don't know poo poo about PowerShell. It's really quite sad. I excelled at my old Windows admin job because I could script.
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Nov 27, 2018 23:09
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Microsoft were still making new services that didn't support servers without a GUI installed (e.g. Azure Application Proxy - it's fixed now) so I can't blame people with small environments for going to the GUI as a first step rather than trying to use PowerShell and then getting disappointed when they need to do something it doesn't support.
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Nov 27, 2018 23:17
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Thanks Ants posted:Microsoft were still making new services that didn't support servers without a GUI installed (e.g. Azure Application Proxy - it's fixed now) so I can't blame people with small environments for going to the GUI as a first step rather than trying to use PowerShell and then getting disappointed when they need to do something it doesn't support. Using the GUI as a first step is all fine and good. It's still incredibly useful if you're just trying to see something quickly or your looking for some but can't quite remember specifics. The whole concept or idea of GUI-less Windows Server kind of never really took off outside traditional Windows features. The original intent was security but with just general enhancements, 3rd Party Agents, etc. it wasn't needed especially since most vendors didn't support it either.
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Nov 27, 2018 23:23
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I kind of assumed that Server Core was built to allow Office 365 and the Azure SaaS/PaaS service to exist, and that having done the work they might as well just make it a public feature.
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Nov 27, 2018 23:30
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VMware NSX's service deployments for Guest Introspection are garbage. That is all.
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Nov 27, 2018 23:33
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Oops someone on the team lost 24k worth of drives.
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Nov 27, 2018 23:42
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George H.W. oval office posted:Oops someone on the team lost 24k worth of drives. Check the NAS thread. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2801557
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Nov 27, 2018 23:49
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CLAM DOWN posted:Most Windows admins don't know poo poo about PowerShell. It's really quite sad. I excelled at my old Windows admin job because I could script.
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Nov 28, 2018 00:19
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I have a question I don't know where to ask, but you goons here are in my field and change jobs often enough to know: I'm looking to create some kind of blog/clearinghouse for past work of mine, as a publicly visible domain to end up on my resume. What's a TLD that straddles the line between "interesting/memorable" and "conservative enough for HR to not filter my resume before it hits a real person"? I own [lastname].pizza and have been informed by people whom I respect that it's too far on the wacky side of the line.
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Nov 28, 2018 00:44
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I have a question I don't know where to ask, but you goons here are in my field and change jobs often enough to know: Here's a list that you can register with - https://www.godaddy.com/tlds/gtld.aspx?catId=0 .bio? You didn't really specify what type of work we're talking about here.
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Nov 28, 2018 01:11
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I have a .life domain, but I've never done anything with it
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Nov 28, 2018 01:14
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Is lastname.me available?
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Nov 28, 2018 01:14
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I own [lastname].pizza . Send me your resume
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Nov 28, 2018 01:32
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Tab8715 posted:Using the GUI as a first step is all fine and good. It's still incredibly useful if you're just trying to see something quickly or your looking for some but can't quite remember specifics. I just wish they'd continued with the effort to have GUI's that produced and ran PowerShell under the hood. I think ADUC* was the only one that made it into general release. You could click through what you wanted to do, then peak at the powershell it was going to run. * I think it was ADUC, one of the Active Directory management tools.
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Nov 28, 2018 01:35
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Exchange does that - shows you the code at the end. Pretty handy.
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Nov 28, 2018 01:37
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Promoting a domain controller does that. I agree that it was cool and good.
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Nov 28, 2018 01:37
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EoRaptor posted:I just wish they'd continued with the effort to have GUI's that produced and ran PowerShell under the hood. I think ADUC* was the only one that made it into general release. You could click through what you wanted to do, then peak at the powershell it was going to run. ADAC in the RSAT suite does that.
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Nov 28, 2018 01:40
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The Fool posted:ADAC in the RSAT suite does that. Yeah, it was probably ADAC then. It's been years since I've touched the GUI tools for AD stuff.
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Nov 28, 2018 01:45
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I used to give my helpdesk tech some requests for info about user accounts and other things in our AD to see how they would approach it. They used the GUI 3-4 times before thinking there had to be a better way and learning their way through some basic power shell, and I think it was that moment I was 100% positive I made the right hiring decision. The folder that stores our useful scripts is 3 times as large as it was when I started it (IT did literally no scripting before that).
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Nov 28, 2018 03:24
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 that 'show commands' button is great, Aruba controllers have it tooI need to work on my scripting more-- the past year, I've been putting out one fire right after the another and there's no time for process improvements or upgrades in general. I've got an interview next week with a bigger school and the job duties are 'just networking'. I'm in charge all things infrastructure right now, so downsizing the duties list is pretty tempting. 70 minute commute or relocation vs my newly built kickass garage and 10 minutes down a sleepy highway. Hard decisions coming, maybe!
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Nov 28, 2018 03:58
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Echoing the love for any kind of GUI that is a frontend to a CLI and gives you all the commands it's running. That's the right way to do things, especially if it shows the commands changing in real time as you fiddle with things. You get all the advantages of a GUI for one-off weird things and an easy way to start automating things you need to do regularly.
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Nov 28, 2018 04:52
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CLAM DOWN posted:Most Windows admins don't know poo poo about PowerShell. It's really quite sad. I excelled at my old Windows admin job because I could script. At my last job, I got a lot of pushback for using PowerShell, they tried to get me to meet them halfway and write batch scripts. I have moved on and up.
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Nov 28, 2018 06:03
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I don't really do much scripting. Non-persistent VDIs have made me lazy in that way. I could do something for user creation, but we're small and don't hire/term very often and most of the work is setting up accounts in 3rd party systems that don't have a scripting interface.Kashuno posted:I used to give my helpdesk tech some requests for info about user accounts and other things in our AD to see how they would approach it. They used the GUI 3-4 times before thinking there had to be a better way and learning their way through some basic power shell, and I think it was that moment I was 100% positive I made the right hiring decision. The folder that stores our useful scripts is 3 times as large as it was when I started it (IT did literally no scripting before that). My helpdesk guy is doing an export of all our Exchange mailboxes to PST. No big deal, maybe a couple hundred. He looked up the command to export them, but even after several times of trying to tell him to use Get-Mailbox with a pipe, he still insisted on doing them one by one.
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Nov 28, 2018 06:43
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I own [lastname].pizza and have been informed by people whom I respect that it's too far on the wacky side of the line. After seeing somebody joke about it in one of these threads I bought bigwetf.art but haven't done anything with it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Nov 28, 2018 06:58
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Holy poo poo this is amazing and hosed up. https://imgur.com/gallery/Wwvw5YR
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Nov 28, 2018 14:46
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That was the clickbaitiest way to post that link
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Nov 28, 2018 15:27
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You won't believe your eyes!
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Nov 28, 2018 15:28
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'MSPs hate this one weird trick!'
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While the fixed pictures are a lot better they aren’t something I would brag about either.
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