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CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Lum_ posted:

everything in the legendary story can be soloed. it extends well past the actual Lord of the Rings Story into the current release (it switches to "The Black Book Of Mordor" when Mordor begins), you will need to have purchased Helms Deep to finish past that point and the Mordor expansion when that part begins

https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Epic_Quests

How far does the epic story go on the Legendary Servers then? Just to the end of Volume I, Book XV where you take on Mordrambor? Which would mean the Legendary Server has Forochel and Eregion patched in?

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Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

CobiWann posted:

How far does the epic story go on the Legendary Servers then? Just to the end of Volume I, Book XV where you take on Mordrambor? Which would mean the Legendary Server has Forochel and Eregion patched in?

I haven't been playing on Legendary Server but it has the current versions of those scenes so you should be able to do the whole of Volume I (it was finished the patch before Moria came out, which is the cut off for Legendary currently)

Lum_ fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Nov 20, 2018

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

For soloing the legendary story, it will ask you if you want to accept the group or solo version of instance quests like Retaking Weathertop. The solo version says its one player only and I saw a couple of requests for help from people trying to duo the group version.

The legendary server does have Forochel and Eregion active, which I was surprised at. I assume you can walk up to the Moria entrance but can't get in until Volume II goes live with the 50-60 content.

Any lore-master vets have a recommendation for which tree to run for dungeons? I've been blue so far up to level 30, and did the three GB wings that way. Used eagle in a caster heavy group to keep up their mana, used bear for shatter arms in a melee heavy group. Pet was most of my damage as stuff died too fast for me to get my AEs off unless I was ready and precasting on one that wasn't the initial target. It was annoying to see I couldn't use my knowledge debuff on the end bosses since they are friendly targets until you move close enough that they immediately attack. Unless someone suggests doing differently I'll probably try red for Fornost and not worry about yellow until I'm 50 and raiding.

Fun "Oh LOTRO" moments: finishing the north downs troll deed and advanced troll deed while waiting for the escort quest guy to respawn, then finding the troll tamer cave with probably 200 more trolls in a series of caves between you and the angmarim quest target. Also finally finishing my heal and cure poison deeds, thinking now I no longer need to spam them on my pet, then I hit 30 and next time I cure spider poison up pops "hey you did 250x why not start using it another 300x." I'm having flashbacks to the EQ1 days of constantly hitting sense heading.

Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You
Do you dudes finish a zones deeds before you move on to the next area or come back later and finish them up? Trying to decide if I should focus on leveling first them come back and pillage since I want to level up multiple characters.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Givin posted:

Do you dudes finish a zones deeds before you move on to the next area or come back later and finish them up? Trying to decide if I should focus on leveling first them come back and pillage since I want to level up multiple characters.

Smart thing to do is probably to find the deeds that give you the best virtue stats for your class and do those and not sweat the others. In vanilla I tried doing everything as I went but some were pretty painful for a solo guardian and I remember clearly giving up and moving on when I got to lone-lands trolls. My lore-master isn't sweating it as much but I did finish the explore/slayer/quest deeds for ered luin and bree-lands so far and when I see people making the rounds in a good spot I'll join them.

If you want to level up multiple characters I definitely wouldn't bother grinding out deeds yet. It's better to just play them doing whatever and see who you like, then you can do the grindy stuff later when you know who you want to power up a bit.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Givin posted:

Do you dudes finish a zones deeds before you move on to the next area or come back later and finish them up? Trying to decide if I should focus on leveling first them come back and pillage since I want to level up multiple characters.

Slayer deeds should wait until you can one-shot the things.

Exploring deeds should wait until you've finished the story because the game likes to send you back and forth to weird places even after you've "finished" areas.

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

Givin posted:

Do you dudes finish a zones deeds before you move on to the next area or come back later and finish them up? Trying to decide if I should focus on leveling first them come back and pillage since I want to level up multiple characters.

I'll finish the questing ones, but I don't go out of my way for the slayer or exploration stuff unless I'm really close to finishing one. Those ones are way quicker to do once you're a higher level and aren't constantly aggroing everything.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
Eh, what the hell.

Aleman, Human Guardian, on Anor, seeking guild invite.

Brave New World
Mar 10, 2010

Givin posted:

Do you dudes finish a zones deeds before you move on to the next area or come back later and finish them up? Trying to decide if I should focus on leveling first them come back and pillage since I want to level up multiple characters.


Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:

I'll finish the questing ones, but I don't go out of my way for the slayer or exploration stuff unless I'm really close to finishing one. Those ones are way quicker to do once you're a higher level and aren't constantly aggroing everything.
^^
What he said. Just worry about the questing ones as you level through a zone and come back for the others later. Just remember that it never hurts to keep your eye on the deed log while you play.

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR
Haven't posted this in forever but it owns and still gets updates, here's the JRR super skin pack with maybe 50 UI skins

https://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/info581-JRRSkinscollection-Atributetomiddleearth.html

edit

The lotro market section on the website won't load fully for me, but every version of Mordor is currently 50% off

extra stout fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Nov 21, 2018

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Thanks for the skin pack link.

extra stout posted:

edit

The lotro market section on the website won't load fully for me, but every version of Mordor is currently 50% off

poo poo. *walks into Mordor*

With that I have everything but Helm's Deep which is still $40 everywhere. I guess I'll worry about that when I get that far.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I bought high elves on sale and the intro is a bit goofy but okay yeah I've been in bed for 3000 years. Sounds nice.

Can't believe Elrond when he says we won the war as best I can tell Sauron is still in the East doing his thing. What else is he not telling me?

Ossipago
Nov 14, 2012

Muldoon

bagrada posted:

With that I have everything but Helm's Deep which is still $40 everywhere. I guess I'll worry about that when I get that far.

There's usually a good Black Friday sale so you might not have to wait long if you want to buy it on the cheap.

Edit: oh, so the Mordor discount is the Black Friday sale. Welp. Cheap punk always has Helm's Deep for $16, so there's that.

Ossipago fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Nov 22, 2018

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos
I can't buy Mordor in the in-game store. It's just... not there. Expansions is empty. (And I don't own it already.)

Is it not available for LotRO points? I have a lot of them so I'd rather use them than pay actual money, sale or not.

flowinprose
Sep 11, 2001

Where were you? .... when they built that ladder to heaven...

bagrada posted:


Any lore-master vets have a recommendation for which tree to run for dungeons? I've been blue so far up to level 30, and did the three GB wings that way. Used eagle in a caster heavy group to keep up their mana, used bear for shatter arms in a melee heavy group. Pet was most of my damage as stuff died too fast for me to get my AEs off unless I was ready and precasting on one that wasn't the initial target. It was annoying to see I couldn't use my knowledge debuff on the end bosses since they are friendly targets until you move close enough that they immediately attack. Unless someone suggests doing differently I'll probably try red for Fornost and not worry about yellow until I'm 50 and raiding.


For all this low-level stuff it really doesn't matter. For end-game content or if you have a group that actually needs you to be on your game, yellow line is the preferred skill-set, with a focus on debuffing enemies. A fully traited yellow-line LM can do some ridiculous stuff, like increasing party damage on a target by 25%+, decreasing groups of enemies' damage by 35%+, rooting groups of enemies, continually mezzing 2 targets, stunning enemies for 8+ seconds at a time, and removing all wounds/diseases/fears/poisons instantaneously.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Starting fresh is rough. My guy is dressed like a hobo.

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

Prism posted:

I can't buy Mordor in the in-game store. It's just... not there. Expansions is empty. (And I don't own it already.)

Is it not available for LotRO points? I have a lot of them so I'd rather use them than pay actual money, sale or not.

I believe the quest pack is there but not the full expansion pack, sometimes the terms confuse even me I just 'buy' everything in lotro points except for the expansion packs which I use real dollars for

A sale summary has been posted:

http://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/black-friday-holiday-sales-information

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

extra stout posted:

I believe the quest pack is there but not the full expansion pack, sometimes the terms confuse even me I just 'buy' everything in lotro points except for the expansion packs which I use real dollars for

A sale summary has been posted:

http://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/black-friday-holiday-sales-information

The quest pack area was empty too, but that may be because I'm VIP? Thanks for the sales info.

Conskill
May 7, 2007

I got an 'F' in Geometry.

Prism posted:

The quest pack area was empty too, but that may be because I'm VIP? Thanks for the sales info.

Yup. AFAIK you can't buy anything you already have access to by account status.

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:
This sale sucks rear end. Helm's Deep is currently the same price as WoW's current expansion (which includes ALL the previous ones...) At least I can get it cheap from a third party and pick up Mordor for half off.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Apart from Helm's Deep itself (which is okay) that expansion is loving awful.

Brave New World
Mar 10, 2010
Helm's Deep is by far the worst expansion. And don't even get me started on Epic Battles. God those suck.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Did they ditch the mandatory epic nonsense in Gondor or do you still have to follow their story to get any quests?

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

Brave New World posted:

Helm's Deep is by far the worst expansion. And don't even get me started on Epic Battles. God those suck.

Clearly a privileged poster who doesn't want to max out their legendary items in a cool and relaxing way alongside Gandalf

jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015
Epic Battles are the worst thing this game has ever done. I almost quit the game in the middle of the Helm's Deep battles and then again at Pelargir. Thankfully the Minas Tirith one was tolerable and they dropped it like a hot potato afterwards.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I didn't hate the epic battles themselves. Rohan was just so padded and repetitive and the mandatory epic was awful (being equal parts stupid love story between two idiots, and boring stagings of scenes of exposition from the books).

Just had a Flame of Ancamir or something pop up in my inventory. It does *something" but idk what.

edit: Sounds like a 105 thing not much use to my level 15 on the legendary server.

sassassin fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Nov 23, 2018

Stalins Moustache
Dec 31, 2012

~~**I'm Italian!**~~
So thinking about getting back to this!
Currently a level 57 Warden still running around in Moria, but I was pondering if I should subscribe and which expansion packs I should get in order? I already have Moria and Helm's Deep.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Stalins Moustache posted:

So thinking about getting back to this!
Currently a level 57 Warden still running around in Moria, but I was pondering if I should subscribe and which expansion packs I should get in order? I already have Moria and Helm's Deep.

Mordor is 50% off for black friday and comes with a level 105 boost if you want to skip ahead or be ready for when you get that high. I think you need to go third party to get the quad pack cheap for Mirkwood, Isengard and Rohan through Cheap Punk. I just got Helm's Deep from him for $16 since the official store still has it at $40.

Note if you subscribe you can play on the new legendary servers which currently has a bunch of people replaying levels 1-50 up to shadows of angmar/eregion/forochel. Which you maybe just did on your warden but if you want a progression type server or to see lower level dungeons and raids on-level without bringing in ringers or running with a slowtro group. It has 40% less xp gain I think but there are people all over those zones for the first time since vanilla. We've got a bunch of people on the Anor server playing in a streamer's kinship, Du Bekar, probably goons in other kins as well. edit: it will add Moria in ~ 3 1/2 months though that may change depending on feedback.

Otherwise I can't remember how it works but you should be okay without a subscription until you get out of Moria then you might run into quest pack issues, but you can buy them with lotro points earned from deeds. Here's the specific VIP subscription benefits.

bagrada fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Nov 24, 2018

Stalins Moustache
Dec 31, 2012

~~**I'm Italian!**~~
Huh. I think I may already have that quad-pack. Any way for me to check if I have it on my account or not?

Edit: Nevermind, I do in fact! Can't remember when I bought it but I already have it on my account :v: So the only expansion pack I'm missing then is Mordor?

Stalins Moustache fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Nov 24, 2018

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Stalins Moustache posted:

Huh. I think I may already have that quad-pack. Any way for me to check if I have it on my account or not?

Edit: Nevermind, I do in fact! Can't remember when I bought it but I already have it on my account :v: So the only expansion pack I'm missing then is Mordor?

Should be if you have Helm's Deep and the quad pack yeah. Gondor was just done as quest packs I believe but I haven't gotten out of Lothlorien yet on any characters so I'm not positive how the higher level stuff works.

My lore-master finished up North Downs and Lone-Lands on the legendary server and just headed into Evendim. I clearly remember running all the ruins and swimming the lake a decade ago on my dwarf guardian but I did not remember Oatbarton at all. I must have missed that the first time through. Nothing says LOTRO more than spending an entire quest hub helping out around the farm, though it was an odd choice breaking up the farm into a drat hedge maze.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Is Evendim even worth bothering with since North Downs and Trollshaws got their revamps? The epic avoids it until really late on iirc.

The downside of a busy server is you can casually wander into Evil Tree country while hunting harmless spiders and suddenly have massive signatures and root adds spawn all around you. Almost cost me Undying. But my first "I'm definitely dead here" moment (a pile of barghest each 5 levels above me that made me forget every gambit and button in panic) saw me rescued when a random passer by nuked them.

Only a few more levels until I unlock the aoe morale tap and become functionally invincible.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

I'm doing Evendim because I'm level 36 and book 4 in Trollshaws is showing as yellow to me yet. I was also hoping the gear there would be better since it is a slightly more recent zone. I haven't gotten gear upgrades in many levels and Tailoring is mostly useless. I don't quite get how gear is balanced, sometimes I see terrible armor with amazing stats, and sometimes huge armor ratings with terrible stats. Almost all the light armor quest rewards with high stat numbers I can wear as a LM seem to have might or agi on them instead of will or fate. I'm trying to get will > crit > stamina > fate upgrades. Could be the wrong plan but I'm not stressing it too much until I hit 50. If the quest doesn't reward an upgrade for any of those I just take the 2h weapon and I've vendored dozens of those at this point.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
You should be able to grind out at least a level with all the hides and leathers around. Tailoring owns.

Ossipago
Nov 14, 2012

Muldoon
Evendim is still more fun, IMO.

If you just need some filler xp the fall event encore starts in a couple days.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Stomping around Annuminas with Orchalwe is good but otherwise Evendim is irritating to get around and the rangers are assholes (especially if you're trying to do Aragorn's turtle hunt).

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
I'm coming back to play after being away since Gondor. I'm giving Anor a try to see if it's fun to have a concentrated population for a while - I hope they keep the expansions locked for more than 4 months, which seems too short for casual play.

I'll be on tomorrow as Tanuki if a goon can send me an invite. I was doodler on Landroval if any of the old goons are still around.

E: How do people have hundreds of gold on the legacy server already... It looks like people are grinding hard to max level and then they'll just be pushing SSG to roll expansions to the server asap so we're on par with live servers in a year. :smith:

Richard M Nixon fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 28, 2018

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Legacy server still has the login gifts where you can get the chunks of 200+ silver every day. Though I've only gotten that a few times, have spent a lot on the auction house, and still have 25 gold at level 40.

I am curious to see when they will start rolling in updates. They have to strike the balance between angering the casual masses by going too fast and losing too many capped people by going too slow. I just hit 40 last night but I get the feeling the average player that started the first week without xp boosts is around level 30. Plenty of people are starting out new, playing alts, and running the high level stuff so it should be healthy for a while yet.

Tip: if you are doing the wolf den quest in south Trollshaws where a bit of dread starts building up as you follow the tracks, make sure you hug the wall at the end to update the quest before killing the shadow wolf. I made the same mistake on my guardian ages ago that I did last night on my LM: pulling the wolf to me, killing it, then noticing the quest didn't update. You then walk up next to the den and the quest narrator is like "HOLY poo poo A BIG WOLF KILL IT!" and then you get to sit there for what feels like 10 minutes until it respawns. Outside of escort quests, LOTRO has been pretty good at avoiding that kind of quest annoyance to date so it is a bummer when it does happen.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
I'm trying to adopt the 'play what you want' mentality so I'm trying a warden. I see tons of recent threads and comments in world chat about how they're garbage. Is that just the ravings of min/maxers or are they really shunned as tanks? I get that they're a challenging class to play but that's not the same as being inherently useless.

Siddhartha Glutamate
Oct 3, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I could be wrong, but I've always heard that Wardens were OP and made serviceable tanks. I think most backlash against them comes from people (like myself) who are sick of hearing from Wardens just how much more awesome they are than every other class.

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Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Richard M Nixon posted:

I'm trying to adopt the 'play what you want' mentality so I'm trying a warden. I see tons of recent threads and comments in world chat about how they're garbage. Is that just the ravings of min/maxers or are they really shunned as tanks? I get that they're a challenging class to play but that's not the same as being inherently useless.

I like my warden just fine, but then I solo 99.9% of the time so I can give a poo poo whether they're effective in endgame content/raids or not. It does require a certain level of skill to be able to execute the gambits properly and know which ones to go for -- guardians are much more friendly to casual button-mashing play.

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